List Mgmt. 2022 Trade, Draft, etc thread

[Scythe]

Dory_77 – might be worth pinning this? Gets updated after every move.

 

[The Dr]

Riley Beveridge from AFL just said it was more likely that Zuurhar leaves North than stays. And is more keen on staying in Vic than going home to WA. If that's true, we have to be all over him.


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[Scythe]

Riley Beveridge from AFL just said it was more likely that Zuurhar leaves North than stays. And is more keen on staying in Vic than going home to WA. If that's true, we have to be all over him.


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As good as it is to have as many 30+ goal scorers as possible, I'm not really sure he fits a need for us. He's basically a tougher, less crafty Fritsch.

We need tall, contested marking options more than anything, and whilst he's a good mark for his size (189cm), he isn't really what we need. Ranks very similarly to Fritsch (i.e. below average) in tackles, tackles inside 50 and pressure acts too, so we'd also be sacrificing forward pressure if he came into the side ahead of one of our half forwards.

 

[Topkent]

Lol how do you know there's not good KPFs available? Not every name that is open to a move gets mentioned in the media, certainly not at this stage of the year.

But back to the point on TDK, I'd much rather throw ~$700KPA at him than pay that much for Grundy to come across.

I don't but there's none out of contract, there's no rumours of any wanting to move back to Melbourne

The ones suggested are extremely extremely unlikely.
King ain't leaving the saints, the big fella Fogarty is leading the Coleman since round 12. No chance. Larkey is under contract and the roos can afford anything to pay him.

I said TDK but that's fantasy, wouldn't be surprised if we were told **** off immediately.

 

[Topkent]

Riley Beveridge from AFL just said it was more likely that Zuurhar leaves North than stays. And is more keen on staying in Vic than going home to WA. If that's true, we have to be all over him.


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If that's actually legit **** we need a piece of him he's a star

 

[netslave]

Riley Beveridge from AFL just said it was more likely that Zuurhar leaves North than stays. And is more keen on staying in Vic than going home to WA. If that's true, we have to be all over him.

I saw somewhere he was supposedly off to Essendon, not sure how likely that may be now though.

 

[The Dr]

As good as it is to have as many 30+ goal scorers as possible, I'm not really sure he fits a need for us. He's basically a tougher, less crafty Fritsch.

We need tall, contested marking options more than anything, and whilst he's a good mark for his size (189cm), he isn't really what we need. Ranks very similarly to Fritsch (i.e. below average) in tackles, tackles inside 50 and pressure acts too, so we'd also be sacrificing forward pressure if he came into the side ahead of one of our half forwards.

Fair points. I thought he was bigger than that. I still think he could complement Fritsch. I love his aggression and pressure without the ball.


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[mrmonkey]

I saw somewhere he was supposedly off to Essendon, not sure how likely that may be now though.

I read a piece on it aswell but I feel there's always a player linked with Essendon

 

[Dory_77]

Fair points. I thought he was bigger than that. I still think he could complement Fritsch. I love his aggression and pressure without the ball.


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I'd like him too. Maybe if we go without 2/3 195cm+ blokes in the forward line we'll change up how we attack and open it up more. He and Fritsch would be very dangerous mid sizers.

 

[Headless]

Riley Beveridge from AFL just said it was more likely that Zuurhar leaves North than stays. And is more keen on staying in Vic than going home to WA. If that's true, we have to be all over him.


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Kitchen sink.

 

[Scythe]

Kitchen sink.

Stainless steel, cast iron or granite, Les? Each have their merits, but I'm not sure how any of them will improve our marking inside 50.

 

[Dory_77]

Stainless steel, cast iron or granite, Les? Each have their merits, but I'm not sure how any of them will improve our marking inside 50.

Granite is heaviest so will be hardest for us to bomb 100m in the air (though won't stop us trying).

 

[Topkent]

As good as it is to have as many 30+ goal scorers as possible, I'm not really sure he fits a need for us. He's basically a tougher, less crafty Fritsch.

We need tall, contested marking options more than anything, and whilst he's a good mark for his size (189cm), he isn't really what we need. Ranks very similarly to Fritsch (i.e. below average) in tackles, tackles inside 50 and pressure acts too, so we'd also be sacrificing forward pressure if he came into the side ahead of one of our half forwards.

Nup.
Still not understanding what's happening. If we bomb to a pocket with 7 guys there it doesn't matter who we have. By your logic we should just keep Gawn forward who's the best contested mark in the league and problem solved. Geelong, Collingwood and Sydney have Mason Cox and Sam Reid between them for talking marking forwards.

We need good forwards, ones who draw the footy, ones who can goal off the deck as well as beat an opponent

 

[Scythe]

Nup.
Still not understanding what's happening. If we bomb to a pocket with 7 guys there it doesn't matter who we have. By your logic we should just keep Gawn forward who's the best contested mark in the league and problem solved. Geelong, Collingwood and Sydney have Mason Cox and Sam Reid between them for talking marking forwards.

We need good forwards, ones who draw the footy, ones who can goal off the deck as well as beat an opponent

Tom Hawkins has taken the second most contested marks of all-time, so I probably wouldn't include Geelong in here.

I'm not necessarily against Zurhaar, but he'd likely take the bulk of the Jackson cap space, and with the way our gameplan is currently structured (once again, for better or worse), our priority needs to be big forwards who can take contested grabs, or at the very least not get outmarked. If we can somehow manoeuvre one of Gunston/Zurhaar and one big KPF/second ruck, brilliant, do it.

FWIW, it sounds like the plan is indeed to plonk Gawn down there more from next year onwards, as Goodwin has gone on record saying that he wants to continue playing two 'top-line rucks'. Unfortunately, if we do go down the Grundy path, I don't see how there's any way we can bring in another high quality forward, so we'll have to see.

 

[Topkent]

Tom Hawkins has taken the second most contested marks of all-time, so I probably wouldn't include Geelong in here.

I'm not necessarily against Zurhaar, but he'd likely take the bulk of the Jackson cap space, and with the way our gameplan is currently structured (once again, for better or worse), our priority needs to be big forwards who can take contested grabs, or at the very least not get outmarked. If we can somehow manoeuvre one of Gunston/Zurhaar and one big KPF/second ruck, brilliant, do it.

FWIW, it sounds like the plan is indeed to plonk Gawn down there more from next year onwards, as Goodwin has gone on record saying that he wants to continue playing two 'top-line rucks'. Unfortunately, if we do go down the Grundy path, I don't see how there's any way we can bring in another high quality forward, so we'll have to see.

None of those contested marks came from high bombs to a pocket. They are one on one kicks to his advantage where he uses his body. Zurhaar could perform the same role.

 

[Grimesy87]

None of those contested marks came from high bombs to a pocket. They are one on one kicks to his advantage where he uses his body. Zurhaar could perform the same role.

Further to this, zuurhar is actually very good when the ball hits the deck too. For a bloke who's listed 190cm.

 

[Johnny Karate]

Further to this, zuurhar is actually very good when the ball hits the deck too. For a bloke who's listed 190cm.

People get too carried away with height. Zurhaar is a powerful competitor and could play the role of key forward better than just about anyone on our list.

 

[Grimesy87]

People get too carried away with height. Zurhaar is a powerful competitor and could play the role of key forward better than just about anyone on our list.

Yeah I think the mid sized "key" forward is a great point of difference. Be it Greene, peak Robbie Gray, papley this year.. it's not going to work every game, but neither is a 6'6 chf.

I'd love to see petracca thrown more forward and isolated with maybe fritch. Especially if brayshaw is going into the middle more

No doubt he's gonna kick 1.9 or something but still be fun to watch it work.

 

[00Stinger]

Brad Hill?

 

[schmuttt]

Yeah I think the mid sized "key" forward is a great point of difference. Be it Greene, peak Robbie Gray, papley this year.. it's not going to work every game, but neither is a 6'6 chf.

I'd love to see petracca thrown more forward and isolated with maybe fritch. Especially if brayshaw is going into the middle more

No doubt he's gonna kick 1.9 or something but still be fun to watch it work.

Petracca not playing forward when Brayshaw is in the middle is poor coaching from Goody. Trac had some really solid games against Adelaide and Geelong playing forward then he goes back to like 90% midfield time. I know his finishing is poor from set shots but he’s such a difficult matchup 1on1.

 

[schmuttt]

Brad Hill?

No for me. Doesn’t compete at all when the chips are down.

 

[Topkent]

No for me. Doesn’t compete at all when the chips are down.

Reckon that's rubbish. He was a gun at Hawthorn and Freo.

 

[Topkent]

Would literally not be surprised if Trac doesn't wanna play forward because he doesn't want the pressure of set shots. You can tell he hates them.
Either that or the coaches recognize if he takes 2 early marks and kicks 0.2 he will go into his shell and be useless for the game

 

[00Stinger]

Reckon that's rubbish. He was a gun at Hawthorn and Freo.

I reckon he is the icing on a cake player

Struggles in poor teams but excels in a good team

Would be a perfect fit to compliment all of our ball winners

 

[Topkent]

Reckon that's rubbish. He was a gun at Hawthorn and Freo.

Plus we don't need players who can 'stand up' when the chips are down. We need finishers who can capitalize on momentum

 

[schmuttt]

Reckon that's rubbish. He was a gun at Hawthorn and Freo.

You haven’t watched at all for two years if you disagree with that.