List Mgmt. 2025 National Draft Thread - Beaten at your own game, Bidney?

[robbieando]

 

[Bonz]

But you didn't grow(sorry)

Nope, it's the main reason I stopped playing footy at 16

I did the fractures in my back after a growth spurt at 14, then got stuck from there.

 

[ErrolisGoldun]

And Hetherton is another who apparently would have rated top 10 at the national draft combine for running vertical leap - seems to be a massive theme in our recruiting this year. Surely not a coincidence?!

The other theme is we're picking a lot of players with high ceilings who are a bit speculative. That could be said of Kyle, King, Hetherton and Chamberlain. To a lesser extent it applies to Phillipou too - except I think his floor is a fair bit higher than the rest of them provided he knuckles down and buys in to bloods culture. That leaves only Cootee as a proven product out of all our draft hand.

Since we're not rebuilding, I don't mind this strategy at all. If two of those players can turn out to be really good, then it doesn't matter if the rest are busts because our cupboard is not bare and we can go again.

100% we have taken a giant leap on giant leaps!!

Think we have drafted well, but there is still something to be said for footy IQ and we are imbalanced on athletic profile to footy IQ. Hence why Carmichael would have helped in this area.

I will trust in the club and the plan, the trade period and draft has been a success especially after todays Rookie draft. Two really good prospects and there is really good balance to the list for mine. Proven senior players, good depth and some exciting youngsters.

Roll on 2026! Think we are primed again!

 

[The Blue Max]

Nope, it's the main reason I stopped playing footy at 16

I did the fractures in my back after a growth spurt at 14, then got stuck from there.

Tough deal.

 

[FreeAgent1]

Pretty sure he is still academy tied next year. I wonder if there is some strategy in taking Hetherton this year, as he would have been free to all next year. Can't help but think that call was very line-ball

Probably - they are essentially on a restricted list.

 

[Wheresbuddy]

Are cat Bs allowed to play AFL?

 

[liz]

Are cat Bs allowed to play AFL?

Yes.

 

[Wheresbuddy]

I've been a bit sceptical about Keane as our list manager.

However, I'm happy with this year's trade and draft period. Our list definitely looks stronger with the moves that have been made and its now over to the coaches and players to make it happen. Keane and co have done their bit.

 

[Kbroome]

I've been a bit sceptical about Keane as our list manager.

However, I'm happy with this year's trade and draft period. Our list definitely looks stronger with the moves that have been made and its now over to the coaches and players to make it happen. Keane and co have done their bit.

Im just thankful that we didn't bring in a (new) skinny flanker this year, yes we did rookie Lloyd but I think you get the point.

 

[joeykanga]

Im just thankful that we didn't bring in a (new) skinny flanker this year, yes we did rookie Lloyd but I think you get the point.

Like you said i also get the impression that the players we've brought in all bring some physicality and are well versed in tackling. On top of their xfactor appeal

 

[Kbroome]

Like you said i also get the impression that the players we've brought all bring sone phisicality and are well versed in tackilng. On top of their xfactir appeal

We have gone for 6 players with huge potential.

Feels like the list managers across the board have gone into this draft hoping that like 1/3 of their picks can be the huge huge upside rather than the normal high floor picks.

So yes many of the picks will fail but if King or Pou or Kyle can hit than its mega.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Like you said i also get the impression that the players we've brought all bring sone phisicality and are well versed in tackilng. On top of their xfactir appeal

The word that popped into my mind was "determined". I'm extremely excited about the group we've brought in. We've bet on success rather than avoiding failure.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Interesting side note to the draft is that we've increased the number of players from NSW from 11 last year, to 14.

Lost Kirk; gained Kyle, King, Chamberlain, Hetherton

Bice
Campbell
Chamberlain
Cleary
Cunningham
Edwards
Gulden
Heeney
Hetherton
King
Kyle
Mills
Rampe
Wicks

 

[liz]

Interesting side note to the draft is that we've increased the number of players from NSW from 11 last year, to 14.

Lost Kirk; gained Kyle, King, Chamberlain, Hetherton

Bice
Campbell
Chamberlain
Cleary
Cunningham
Edwards
Gulden
Heeney
Hetherton
King
Kyle
Mills
Rampe
Wicks

You forgot Blakey.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

You forgot Blakey.

Born in Melbourne

 

[liz]

Born in Melbourne

Who would he play SOO for?

In every meaningful footy sense he counts as a NSW player.

 

[.Shotties.]

Born in Melbourne

Lived in Sydney since he was 5/6 and played the entirety of his junior football in Sydney.

 

[SwansLifer]

Who would he play SOO for?

In every meaningful footy sense he counts as a NSW player.

Would play for NSW/Allies due to playing his footy in NSW. But I'm guessing Adnico was only going off NSW born.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Would play for NSW/Allies due to playing his footy in NSW. But I'm guessing Adnico was only going off NSW born.

Correct

Was born in Victoria

 

[The Blue Max]

Guys, seriously, you’ve battered this horse into puppy poo.

Take a breath and wait for the pre-season performance reports.

 

[liz]

Correct

Was born in Victoria

If your criterion is "born in" rather than drafted from, you can remove Hetherton.

Liam Hetherton Draft Profile

Murray Bushrangers spearhead Liam Hetherton had his year cut short by injury, but showcased great mobility and scoreboard impact.

central.rookieme.com

 

[robbieando]

If your criterion is "born in" rather than drafted from, you can remove Hetherton.

Yep. But State of Origin has never been about where you are born but where you learnt to play

 

[liz]

Yep. But State of Origin has never been about where you are born but where you learnt to play

 

[Bandicoot]

For all those here who are bemoaning the fact that we passed on Carmichael I think it's worthy to consider the position the club was in at the time that bid came in.
We had picks 35, 42, 51 and 63 which totaled 597 points. Accepting the bid would have cost us 649. Hence we would automatically be starting next years draft with a deficit of 52 points. More importantly, our next pick would have been in the sixties.
As a result, they believed that a bid would come for King at a time where we would have to either go further into deficit or simply pass altogether. Passing being the most likely option. Granted, it didn't turn out that way with King, but that would have been the thought process at the time.
We would have walked away from draft night most probably with Kyle, Carmichael and a type of player taken the following day in the rookie draft.
Instead, we walked away with Kyle, Phillipou, Cootee and (unexpectedly) King. I feel far happier with the secondary outcome.

 

[Kiama Chris]

For all those here who are bemoaning the fact that we passed on Carmichael I think it's worthy to consider the position the club was in at the time that bid came in.
We had picks 35, 42, 51 and 63 which totaled 597 points. Accepting the bid would have cost us 649. Hence we would automatically be starting next years draft with a deficit of 52 points. More importantly, our next pick would have been in the sixties.
As a result, they believed that a bid would come for King at a time where we would have to either go further into deficit or simply pass altogether. Passing being the most likely option.
We would have walked away from draft night most probably with Kyle, Carmichael and a type of player taken the following day in the rookie draft.
Instead, we walked away with Kyle, Phillipou, Cootee and (unexpectedly) King. I feel far happier with the secondary outcome.

Ditto. Getting Philippou and Cootee is sheer bonus. It was absolutely the right call. Carmichael still gets his AFL career, just not with us. Academy job done

 

[Jewelsbon]

Ditto. Getting Philippou and Cootee is sheer bonus. It was absolutely the right call. Carmichael still gets his AFL career, just not with us. Academy job done

And with a bit of luck, Carmichael gets homesick in a couple of years.