2025 Rolling ALL-Australian Team

[PhatBoy]

Xerri is leading coaches votes in a team that has won 2 games and is second last of the ladder. It's not just one game.

Yes I understand that I’m saying if it got to a point where they were dead level or something with nothing to separate them near the end of the season and then his form dropped off the face of the earth, it seems as though people would still cling to that head to head argument.

 

[JHF1870]

Do you watch any of the matches?

Have you noticed Gawn often pulling ruck opponents jumpers in ruck contests? Do you think umpires will continue to let him get away with this illegal tactic for the rest of the season?

I watch on average 4-5 games a week in full. Always watch Port and Freo, I watch at least one Saturday and Sunday game per week.

I did watch that Brisbane game and he destroyed every hope Brisbane had of winning that game. People have dismissed that as 'lazy' but the reality is he's pivotal to Melbourne.

Ruck contests are usually push and shove it's 50/50 let them play.

 

[RCAB]

I watch on average 4-5 games a week in full. Always watch Port and Freo, I watch at least one Saturday and Sunday game per week.

I did watch that Brisbane game and he destroyed every hope Brisbane had of winning that game. People have dismissed that as 'lazy' but the reality is he's pivotal to Melbourne.

Ruck contests are usually push and shove it's 50/50 let them play.

You really didn't answer my question but that's okay.

 

[JHF1870]

You really didn't answer my question but that's okay.

I dont think what you said changes Gawns status as #1

 

[scoman]

Wow, our rosy-cheeked Rising Star is dominating!

I wonder what the requirement is for being counted as a winger? Zac Bailey has lined up on the wing between 7 and 16 (thanks ZoBlitz) times a game this year and has 17 goals to his name.

 

[EBERT THE KING]

Djokovic can lose to a player ranked 100.

Woods in his prime can have a shocking round.

Don't get too excited over one performance.

Its not one though is it.

Have a look at Xerris last fortnight when North have been undefeated.

I think the footy public and media just fall in love with Gawn because of his personality.

For me, Xerri has gone past him. Time will tell how it plays out.

I hope they pick both.

 

[EBERT THE KING]

At some point people are going to reach the stage where they understand four quarters of football isn’t representative of an entire season when delineating between two players. If Xerri plays like a busted ringhole for a month while Gawn is best on ground during the same period leading up to when they select the team do you really think they’ll all go ‘oh but round two.’

Im fully aware of how it works. Xerris body of work this season is unbelievable. His last fortnight has been on another level to any ruck in the comp.

 

[Trav 20]

Its not one though is it.

Have a look at Xerris last fortnight when North have been undefeated.

I think the footy public and media just fall in love with Gawn because of his personality.

For me, Xerri has gone past him. Time will tell how it plays out.

I hope they pick both.

In what world does the player with more disposals, more marks, more contested marks, more hitouts, and more score involvements play second fiddle to the other ?

Gawn is second in the entire competition for score involvements.

Gawn has taken more contested marks than Xerri's taken ordinary marks.

Gawn has double the intercepts.

Mate, it doesn't matter how many tackles Xerri gets. Rucks aren't judged on tackles. Unless you're obsessed with AFL fantasy.

 

[Trav 20]

His (Xerri) last fortnight has been on another level to any ruck in the comp.

Last fortnight ? Is that all.

Gawn round 6: 9 coaches votes
Gawn round 7: 10 coaches votes
Gawn round 8: 10 coaches votes
Gawn round 9: 2 coaches votes
Gawn round 10: 10 coaches votes

Do you watch footy ?

 

[EBERT THE KING]

Last fortnight ? Is that all.

Gawn round 6: 9 coaches votes
Gawn round 7: 10 coaches votes
Gawn round 8: 10 coaches votes
Gawn round 9: 2 coaches votes
Gawn round 10: 10 coaches votes

Do you watch footy ?

You are aware Xerri is leading that award??

See yourself out please.

 

[Trav 20]

You are aware Xerri is leading that award??

See yourself out please.

Of course.

But you were referencing some unprecedented two week ruck period, which included last weekend where his direct opponent had almost 50 hitouts, had 5 times as many marks and the same score involvements.

You're easily pleased.

 

[RCAB]

Its not one though is it.

Have a look at Xerris last fortnight when North have been undefeated.

I think the footy public and media just fall in love with Gawn because of his personality.

For me, Xerri has gone past him. Time will tell how it plays out.

I hope they pick both.

It's interesting the poster you're responding to is using Djokovic as a comparison for Gawn. I never thought he was the best, the biggest tennis cheater of all time.

 

[JHF1870]

It's interesting the poster you're responding to is using Djokovic as a comparison for Gawn. I never thought he was the best, the biggest tennis cheater of all time.

He is polarizing. You either love or hate him.

 

[Daka]

Regarding Xerri & Gawn, both can't be in the AA team imo they both number #1 rucks and hardly any team plays with 2 rucks.

It will come down to who finishes the rest of the season better, our opinions won't matter it will be up to the selection panel who don't always get it right to make the decision.

 

[JHF1870]

Regarding Xerri & Gawn, both can't be in the AA team imo they both number #1 rucks and hardly any team plays with 2 rucks.

It will come down to who finishes the rest of the season better, our opinions won't matter it will be up to the selection panel who don't always get it right to make the decision.

If its close and Xerri unlucky to miss out he can sit on the bench

 

[Daka]

If its close and Xerri unlucky to miss out he can sit on the bench

I honestly thought Xerri should have been AA last year, but Gawn got the nod, maybe they can reverse it.

 

[Seeds]

I've seen enough.

No you havent. If they get injured and either dont play or have crappy second half of the seasons they wont even make the squad. Ive seen players who were the best player in the comp at the half way point of the season and not make the all australian squad because they got injured half way through the season.

 

[Headless]

No you havent. If they get injured and either dont play or have crappy second half of the seasons they wont even make the squad. Ive seen players who were the best player in the comp at the half way point of the season and not make the all australian squad because they got injured half way through the season.

I can't imagine Toump Ass being disingenuous on the internet of all places, Seeds.

 

[Trav 20]

I honestly thought Xerri should have been AA last year, but Gawn got the nod, maybe they can reverse it.

What do you base your criteria on ?

 

[Daka]

What do you base your criteria on ?

Usually the eye-test, with some stats to back it up not to suggest Xerri is a better player & they both were close last year not suggesting it wasn't but thought Xerri was slightly better from what I saw in terms of consistency, Gawn has the stand out games though.

 

[Trav 20]

Usually the eye-test, with some stats to back it up not to suggest Xerri is a better player & they both were close last year not suggesting it wasn't but thought Xerri was slightly better from what I saw in terms of consistency, Gawn has the stand out games though.

Gawn was pretty consistent but was curtailed by a knee injury late in the season where there were 3 games he couldn't impact, i.e. the game he was injured and subbed off and the subsequent 2 he missed.

Nonetheless, if we use the coaches award as a guide to ''consistency'', he polled in 10 of the 20 games he played. Xerri polled in 12 of the 23 he played in. So both very consistent.

And, as you say, Gawn had bigger games, which is why he polled 56 votes to Xerri's 37 from 3 less games. The stats also back up that Gawn had a better year, unless you're besotted by tackles and clearances from ruckmen.

 

[UltraEgo]

Its not one though is it.

Have a look at Xerris last fortnight when North have been undefeated.

I think the footy public and media just fall in love with Gawn because of his personality.

For me, Xerri has gone past him. Time will tell how it plays out.

I hope they pick both.

what personality?

 

[Bulldog Joe]

I am intrigued as to why Coaches award seems to be considered important in assessing AA.

Coaches vote on the best 5 in any game, which means they leave 41 players from each game unassessed.

In the Bulldogs Essendon game last week Bontempelli received the same assessment as all the Essendon players.
I would defy anybody to assert that he wasn't influential in that game.

The same Coaches award year to date ranks Zach Merrett equal to Lachie Neale

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Lachie Neale

Age

32

Ht

177cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

and ahead of Patrick Dangerfield.

I just don't see how that would stack up in assessing the best players across the season

 

[Trav 20]

I am intrigued as to why Coaches award seems to be considered important in assessing AA.

Coaches vote on the best 5 in any game, which means they leave 41 players from each game unassessed.

In the Bulldogs Essendon game last week Bontempelli received the same assessment as all the Essendon players.
I would defy anybody to assert that he wasn't influential in that game.

The same Coaches award year to date ranks Zach Merrett equal to Lachie Neale and ahead of Patrick Dangerfield.

I just don't see how that would stack up in assessing the best players across the season

It may have been a margin call, but they were most definitely assessed.

They were assessed to be not influential enough to warrant a vote.

That said, I agree that it's just one metric and shouldn't be used as a conclusive guide as to has had the best season. Weigh it up against a number of factors.

 

[Disco Dew]

I’ll be honest, I’m just happy to see xerri in the discussion alongside Gawn. Gawn the best ruck in the comp for a long time now, Xerri snapping at his heels.
Personally i don’t have an issue with either of them being the AA ruck at this stage but i doubt we’d see two rucks named at the end of the year.