Player Watch #44: Cameron Zurhaar - [AFL.com] NM offers 5yr deal - CZ interest from SYD/GC - CZ mgr says 'wants to see improvement' & 'team success'

[shimaburnsgrieg]

Very inconsistent and a selfish player - has been throughout his career. Occasional good piece of individual play but generally alot of meh.

His sort of 'averageness' - not great as a forward, not smart enough to play a lot of midfield minutes - would not be tolerated for long in a top 4 club - he would have been weeded out by now.

And his attitude of ..I want to see the club improve before I sign ...tells you alot about his character.

If another club wants to pick him up great - I'd take band 2 for this bloke.

 

[koshari]

He is just so dumb, zero footy iq. Is a shame because has the power and athleticism but should too slow between the ears.

When he walked the ball over the line after ldu spotted him up was a perfect example of his lack of awareness/lack of urgency. Almost bordering on contempt.

 

[Sphynx]

He burns his team mates in open goals at least once or twice a week, he must be infuriating to play with.

I’m already on record as saying the 5 year deal is 2 more than what should be on offer

 

[koshari]

He burns his team mates in open goals at least once or twice a week, he must be infuriating to play with.

I’m already on record as saying the 5 year deal is 2 more than what should be on offer

Set shot is generally poor as well.

 

[Ischenko]

Most overrated player on our list. I said we should think about trading him last year, nothing I have seen this year makes me think he’s indispensable.

X, Larkey and Powell have stepped up as “senior players” to carry this group. LDU had a dirty day but this is not the norm. Cam is all sizzzle no sausage.

 

[Uncle_Leo]

When he is on he is on. When he isn’t it’s really bad.

Don’t care if he leaves

 

[kool kangas]

Can we put his contract on hold till nearer the end of the season...It might make him wake up and take notice...Personally l think he needs to go elsewhere ....

 

[franjon]

You know that moment when you're just hopping onto the freeway, foot down, grab a sneaky 110 then back to the 100 and cruise control .... thats this fella. Bye.

I drive a diesel, but watch out for the SUV drivers. They own the road, according to them

 

[Themanbun]

Looked like ripping the game apart and then our mids and defence couldn't get the ball down our end of the ground.

19 touches, 10 contested, 3 cracks at goal, won 3 stoppage clearances with minimal mid tike, 6 tackles, fourth highest metres gained for us. All while playing as our second, severely undersized key forward for most of the game.

Had some selfish moments but * we are harsh on him in here.

Tell ya what if I was playing half forward and that was a 'down' game I'd be pretty *ing rapt.

 

[Ocha905]

Offering 5 years for someone so inconsistent shows the club hasn't learnt from past mistakes.

 

[amaz199]

Looked like ripping the game apart and then our mids and defence couldn't get the ball down our end of the ground.

19 touches, 10 contested, 3 cracks at goal, won 3 stoppage clearances with minimal mid tike, 6 tackles, fourth highest metres gained for us. All while playing as our second, severely undersized key forward for most of the game.

Had some selfish moments but * we are harsh on him in here.

Tell ya what if I was playing half forward and that was a 'down' game I'd be pretty *ing rapt.

We're being harsh on him because the young blokes need guys like Cam to show the way. Perform to an elite standard.

They are not doing that. The criticism is warranted. Our senior players collectively were shocking today.

 

[Uncle_Leo]

Looked like ripping the game apart and then our mids and defence couldn't get the ball down our end of the ground.

19 touches, 10 contested, 3 cracks at goal, won 3 stoppage clearances with minimal mid tike, 6 tackles, fourth highest metres gained for us. All while playing as our second, severely undersized key forward for most of the game.

Had some selfish moments but * we are harsh on him in here.

Tell ya what if I was playing half forward and that was a 'down' game I'd be pretty *ing rapt.

He isn’t 19 anymore.

He is 26 this year. Needs more consistency and to produce more. Very flaky footballer

 

[Themanbun]

We're being harsh on him because the young blokes need guys like Cam to show the way. Perform to an elite standard.

They are not doing that. The criticism is warranted. Our senior players collectively were shocking today.

He isn’t 19 anymore.

He is 26 this year. Needs more consistency and to produce more. Very flaky footballer

What more do we want from a guy spending 85% of his game in a weak team's forward line?

Genuine question.

What's the standard he needs to meet to not be flaky playing that position?

Is it 25 touches and 3+ goals a game? That'd win him a Brownlow from the forward line which would be a fair effort.

Two selfish moments where he should have looked inboard but backed himself to ignite something are all I can fault with his game.

He led well. He led out of Larks' space. He provided a strong stoppage presence in the forward 50. He nearly clocked 20 touches playing as a forward.

He bobs in and out of games because he plays the hardest position in one of the worst sides in the comp. It's just straight up gonna keep happening and anyone short of Leigh Mathews would face the same problem.

 

[Bowski]

Looked like ripping the game apart and then our mids and defence couldn't get the ball down our end of the ground.

19 touches, 10 contested, 3 cracks at goal, won 3 stoppage clearances with minimal mid tike, 6 tackles, fourth highest metres gained for us. All while playing as our second, severely undersized key forward for most of the game.

Had some selfish moments but * we are harsh on him in here.

Tell ya what if I was playing half forward and that was a 'down' game I'd be pretty *ing rapt.

The problem is most of those cracks at goal burnt players in better spots, a lot of the disposals were under immense pressure due to him overcooking it when there were options available.

Stats do not tell the story for Cam tonight. I'll grant I'm being harsher on him than others but he's a senior player that is not setting the standard and he's certainly not alone there.

It's also frustrating because they are problems that have plagued his entire career. His best games have been when he actually has his head on a swivel and scopes things out. His worst are when he thinks he's Modra but he's actually closer to Mitch Hahn.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Was one of our best today

Need him to sign

 

[amaz199]

What more do we want from a guy spending 85% of his game in a weak team's forward line?

Genuine question.

What's the standard he needs to meet to not be flaky playing that position?

Is it 25 touches and 3+ goals a game? That'd win him a Brownlow from the forward line which would be a fair effort.

Two selfish moments where he should have looked inboard but backed himself to ignite something are all I can fault with his game.

He led well. He led out of Larks' space. He provided a strong stoppage presence in the forward 50. He nearly clocked 20 touches playing as a forward.

He bobs in and out of games because he plays the hardest position in one of the worst sides in the comp. It's just straight up gonna keep happening and anyone short of Leigh Mathews would face the same problem.

I honestly reckon he didn't have much impact. The stats stuff is misleading. Lazz and Ford had more impact and they have far less experience.

He stuffed up multiple opportunities and when the game was dead it was easier for him to get a little more of the ball.

He didn't kick the goals he should've, didn't find the teammates he should've, and based on that it's a bad game. We got done by 9 goals and some of that is on him.

Our senior players suck or don't play to an elite standard. End of.

 

[amaz199]

If he wants 5 years, I want 5 years of the most exciting football.

Not scrambling for stats to try and defend him.

 

[archereleven]

This is such a depressingly accurate realization, LDU and Larkey will come and go with nothing to show for it. Sad.

Larks and LDU would be the old heads in that side - 32/33 years olds

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[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

Surprised by the negative comments in the thread re his game today, came here to say I thought he gave it a crack today - mainly highlighted by his 10 contested possessions. What more do we want a HFF who plays as a quasi undersized CHF most weeks in the worst preformed club of the last 5 years to do? He had 19 touches, presented well for 5 grabs and a goal + played up the ground and netted 3 clearances from stoppages. I liked his game, and as always brought the aggression.

 

[Themanbun]

I honestly reckon he didn't have much impact. The stats stuff is misleading. Lazz and Ford had more impact and they have far less experience.

He stuffed up multiple opportunities and when the game was dead it was easier for him to get a little more of the ball.

He didn't kick the goals he should've, didn't find the teammates he should've, and based on that it's a bad game. We got done by 9 goals and some of that is on him.

Our senior players suck or don't play to an elite standard. End of.

Well if we're going off the vibes of how we felt he impacted then I disagree big time.

 

[amaz199]

Well if we're going off the vibes of how we felt he impacted then I disagree big time.

Agree to disagree unfortunately

 

[CBSlogger]

Been said before, but he needs us to find a 2nd banana to Larkey as much as Larkey does.

 

[Devington]

Honestly, some times it's even hard to blame him for just trying to do it all himself. Would you trust half the bludgers out there?

I have him firmly in the "not an issue" pile. There's rough edges still but his selfishness has improved over the years (he used to be a glory hog even halfway up the ground for heavens sake), he doesn't fly for anywhere near as many marks at the same time as Larkey which implies his (and lark's) forward work has improved, and he's improved his fitness enough to be a bloke you can put on ball for a couple minutes a quarter to have an impact.

Now, that said... That doesn't mean he gets a blank check for his next contract. But I'm also not going to give him s**t for seemingly holding us at ransom and demanding the team's fortunes improve, seems obvious to me he's trying to get more out of himself and it's all well and good to say he should stay for his mates but if he's a competitor and feels ******* miserable being in a loser team then I aint blaming him for wanting out at the end of the year.

 

[brooksnk]

Issue with him is lacking awareness, below par footy IQ and finishing.

It's glaring when you see how slow he is to make a decision at times compared to Sheezel (who is at the opposite end of the spectrum).

 

[TheKanga]

I hope West Coast offer him a big deal and we get band 1. We know they don't have a salary cap - especially when they are down and the AFL wants them back up and around.

Might be another way the AFL help us out without looking like they are helping us.

Zurhaar is too inconsistent. Always a nearly player that shows glimpses. yes yes "we can't keep giving up our senior players" but if they don't contribute i'd rather a young player that does - wardlaw, sheez, and colby all already offer more. They're already better leaders too.

He wouldn't want to go to WCE
They are further behind in their rebuild than us.

They are in for some heavy defeats in the years ahead.