A second concussion class action has been commenced.

[Lets Roar like '44]

It’s an obvious money hungry grab. Everyone knows that. Every job has a risk, you don’t have to do a job if you don’t like the risk. At what point do you just go back under your bed and never leave? Literally everything in life is a risk. And if you think some tasks are more higher than others, you actually don’t have to do it. Workplaces actually protect you if you decide to not proceed. Albeit you will have to forfeit your $600,000 job but you know, safety and all that blah blah

 

[Sentinel]

Just a leading question to ask yourselves, at what level of income are you prepared to waive your OH+S rights for your employer?

Certainly not that of an AFL rookie.

 

[Sherrinator]

What a contradictory paragraph, and it makes a huge difference.

A football player entering the league at 18 years old wihout any relevant qualifications on the subject of course does not have "full knowledge" of the risks and potential outcomes. The league, advised by medical experts, would be expected to have the most up to date knowledge that exists at that point in time, and put appropriate measures in place to mitigate those risks and protect said players.

A player's salary is also irrelevant when talking about health outcomes.

No it isn’t if the activity is inherently risky. Race car drivers, astronauts etc. It’s all risk money

 

[Sentinel]

No it isn’t if the activity is inherently risky. Race car drivers, astronauts etc. It’s all risk money

How much of a rookie's $85,000 odd salary is attributed to risk? Do all players receive the same amount of "risk money" in their contract, including those paid 10x less than some of their colleagues (despite both being exposed to exactly the same risk)? And do we have to cut player's salaries now that the AFL is adding measures to mitigate that risk?

 

[demondavey]

Head knocks happen in all sports. Why is this directed at AFL. Boxing UFC basically is just hitting people in the head. Does every single boxer make class actions after there career has ended aswell. How's this any different in other sports. NRL is worse with head knocks then the AFL. Why is there no take about NRL.

How could you argue a duty of care in boxing or UFC? Football is much easier to manage. It’s directed at the AFL as it’s very preventable to treat and manage if it does occur.

 

[Free Agent]

How could you argue a duty of care in boxing or UFC? Football is much easier to manage. It’s directed at the AFL as it’s very preventable to treat and manage if it does occur.

What are you doing. You should be watching footy right now.
Carlton vs Richmond is on.
This is no time to be talking about concussion lol

 

[WillHayward]

It’s an obvious money hungry grab. Everyone knows that. Every job has a risk, you don’t have to do a job if you don’t like the risk. At what point do you just go back under your bed and never leave? Literally everything in life is a risk. And if you think some tasks are more higher than others, you actually don’t have to do it. Workplaces actually protect you if you decide to not proceed. Albeit you will have to forfeit your $600,000 job but you know, safety and all that blah blah

Yeah and high risk jobs always involve an insurance scheme.

Some of the costs of the game should go to insurance.

They ought have a fund that properly assesses and costs the risk.

But guess where that money will come from?

It won't come from the game they will * us

This is how monopoly industries works

 

[Slartibartfast]

CTE ( Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy) was first identified in 1928 but the first evidence was demonstrated only in 2005. It can only be identified in an individual after death via an autopsy.
This links gives a brief history and insight .
I dont believe this means that the AFL only have a responsibility from 2005 onwards.
Like asbestos , it was not known about its harm but the companies where workers and families were harmed were still held liable For damage caused from the get go.
Think it only has to be shown that they have injury and that it was caused as a consequence of playing football For a successful claim .
How they demonstrate a concussion injury in lieu of a CTE diagnosis I don’t know .

What is CTE? | Concussion Legacy Foundation

CTE is a progressive degenerative disease of the brain commonly found in people with a history of repetitive brain trauma. Click to read more.

concussionfoundation.org

Kwality here is some detail about CTE and concussion .

 

[Slartibartfast]

Are we looking at the AFL talking big when in fact they are looking to mitigate any responsibility??


The AFL Players’ Association claims it has been kept in the dark for more than six months about the league’s plans to review the clinical care of - and financial assistance for – past players who suffered long-term effects from concussion and other career-ending injuries on the field.

AFL Players’ Association claims it has been kept in dark on league’s concussion review plan

The AFL has not provided a timeline or details on how it will care for injured former players despite pledging urgent action, the association claimed in a submission

www.theguardian.com

 

[Slartibartfast]

This rather damning of the AFL , Richmond and the AFLPA . Is this a whitewash being led by the court. Cant believe they dont want to investigate what happened at Richmond with Tuck but only want to look at what they will do moving forward. Crazy.
why do those 3 groups oppose a wider terms of reference, what do they have to hide or lose???? $$$$$$$

Lawyer Greg Griffin and Katherine Tuck want greater examination of the head knocks Shane endured at the case before state coroner Judge John Cain in the Coroners Court of Victoria. But Katherine has become increasingly frustrated, in particular by Cain’s decision last year to focus only on current and future guidelines around concussion, rather than the specifics of Tuck’s treatment.


In particular, she is frustrated by the coroner’s decision to severely limit the scope of the investigation, and the refusal to give any consideration to the policies, guidelines, rules and/or practises of the AFL in respect of concussion and head injuries as were in place at the time of Shane Tuck

Shane Tuck

Age

42

Ht

189cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.4

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

12.0

5star

M

4.5

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.0

5star

No current season stats available

D

14.8

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.4

4star

’s playing career, and whether those arrangements were reasonable and proportionate to address the risk of CTE.


Her concerns in that regard were not aided by the submissions made by the AFL and the Richmond Football Club to that issue, which sought to encourage the court’s narrow approach.

Griffin had applied in December 2021 to have Cain step aside on the basis that Cain was once a managing partner of a law firm that had represented AFL clubs Collingwood and Hawthorn. But the application failed.

Mrs Tuck is now left in the position where hearing dates for the coronial investigation have been set in circumstances where what is to be considered is limited to an examination of how the AFL proposes to deal with the issue of return to play protocols and the medical treatment of concussed and injured players going forward,” Griffin said.


Whilst it is ultimately a matter for the court to determine the scope of the coronial investigation, it is noted that, at every stage, any submissions made on her behalf on that topic have been opposed by the AFL and the Richmond Football Club and somewhat inexplicably by the AFLPA.

‘An arid exercise’: Shane Tuck’s widow withdraws from coronial inquest into footballer’s death — The Age

The coronial inquest into the death of former AFL footballer Shane Tuck has taken a dramatic turn, with his wife Katherine and her lawyer outlining their concerns about the case overseen by the state coroner.

apple.news

 

[Slartibartfast]

This is from last year , the AFL and the AFLPA being accused of trying to divide and conquer over the use of ex players brains . Their agenda of protecting themselves is evident especially when you consider the last articvle I posted. Why does the AFLPA side with the AFL ???? Who are they representing.

A leading concussion specialist has accused the AFL and the players’ union of attempting to “divide and conquer” by hesitating to endorse the Australian Sports Brain Bank (ASBB) as the primary place for players to donate their brains, despite a direct recommendation to do so by a coroner.

AFL trying to ‘divide and conquer’ over brain bank endorsement, concussion expert says

Dr Adrian Cohen says league’s hesitation to choose Australian Sports Brain Bank shows it is overlooking its ‘specific expertise’

www.theguardian.com