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It's really hard to tell sometimes if people are serious or just taking the piss, it's that kinda thread
Abolish the umpire bouncing the ball
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It's really hard to tell sometimes if people are serious or just taking the piss, it's that kinda thread
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Its that kinda AFL Commission.
With a bunch of gutless clubs s**t scared of being financially punished if they step out of line.
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Now you've really lost me
The bounce is absolutely the fair. Clearly the umpire can't control the bounce....so cannot deliberately favour anybody. Throw up can be manipulated and therefore is not fair. The game starts when the ball hits the deck.....every player in the vicinity has an equal chance it will come their way.
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The ones taking the piss are the AFL with their constant meddling for the worse.
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Classic strawman argument.
leave the bounce alone, its fine
its one of the great things about the game
its one of the great things about the game
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What do people have against seeing a fair and proper ruck contest?
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Centre bounce for start of each 1/4.. ball up for all others.
Less RSI on umps, still keeps the tradition, less overall pressure to perrform.
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Less RSI on umps, still keeps the tradition, less overall pressure to perrform.
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so a centre bounce followed by a recall followed by a ball up
Nothing about the bounce really makes any sense but I like it.
I remember as a junior playing ruck before I stopped growing, learning to read the bounce quickly was vital. There's those split seconds watching it to work out how high it will go and precisely when to time your leap. A lower bounce required earlier run and leap, a higher bounce meant waiting a fraction and timing the run and leap later. Bounces left or right a bit changed the timing and run and jump as well etc. Then you had to factor in your opponents usual positioning. Some jump early, some a little later, some would run in and block the landing zone etc. I think all that would go if it was always thrown up and become much like basketball. Probably wouldn't matter much to the average punter but I'd miss it knowing there's an art and talent to it, it's not just about how tall you are. It's also the only sport I can think of where it happens and frankly I think that kind of appeals to the Aussie nature.
I'd miss it
I remember as a junior playing ruck before I stopped growing, learning to read the bounce quickly was vital. There's those split seconds watching it to work out how high it will go and precisely when to time your leap. A lower bounce required earlier run and leap, a higher bounce meant waiting a fraction and timing the run and leap later. Bounces left or right a bit changed the timing and run and jump as well etc. Then you had to factor in your opponents usual positioning. Some jump early, some a little later, some would run in and block the landing zone etc. I think all that would go if it was always thrown up and become much like basketball. Probably wouldn't matter much to the average punter but I'd miss it knowing there's an art and talent to it, it's not just about how tall you are. It's also the only sport I can think of where it happens and frankly I think that kind of appeals to the Aussie nature.
I'd miss it
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https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/th...d/news-story/28268b1e46d0c5f0865035b065331c6c
THE BOUNCE might still be alive – at least for now – but one recently retired whistle blower doesn’t think it should stay.
“I don’t see any real difference with thus with back and shoulder issues; I’ve got a pretty buggered right shoulder at the moment too, that’s been from bouncing the footy.”
Vozzo said the price being paid was losing gun junior decision makers who aren’t given the chance to practice bouncing in local competitions where it is outlawed.
“Probably the biggest thing, which a lot of people discount, umpires aren’t allowed to bounce at all in local footy,” he said.
“This happened a couple of years ago in the Eastern footy league. We had a young fella who was absolutely brilliant and as soon as he got to the VFL he had to bounce and he only lasted a year.
“He was a brilliant decision maker but he couldn’t bounce for anything because he never practiced in local football.
“You think you can just pick it up when you get to VFL but you can’t. I never mastered it in 25 years of umpiring.
“These kids are expected to do it after ten years of local footy and master it within one to two years – that’s impossible. I think that’s forgotten in all the hysteria around keeping it.”
THE BOUNCE might still be alive – at least for now – but one recently retired whistle blower doesn’t think it should stay.
“I don’t see any real difference with thus with back and shoulder issues; I’ve got a pretty buggered right shoulder at the moment too, that’s been from bouncing the footy.”
Vozzo said the price being paid was losing gun junior decision makers who aren’t given the chance to practice bouncing in local competitions where it is outlawed.
“Probably the biggest thing, which a lot of people discount, umpires aren’t allowed to bounce at all in local footy,” he said.
“This happened a couple of years ago in the Eastern footy league. We had a young fella who was absolutely brilliant and as soon as he got to the VFL he had to bounce and he only lasted a year.
“He was a brilliant decision maker but he couldn’t bounce for anything because he never practiced in local football.
“You think you can just pick it up when you get to VFL but you can’t. I never mastered it in 25 years of umpiring.
“These kids are expected to do it after ten years of local footy and master it within one to two years – that’s impossible. I think that’s forgotten in all the hysteria around keeping it.”
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like any career step change, you need to plan
if you're doing local footy and want to get to AFL standard..............practice before you need to do it. Start today!
if you're doing local footy and want to get to AFL standard..............practice before you need to do it. Start today!
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I think the bounces have been better this year.
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Problem is that you're not allowed to in virtually all suburban / country comps. All you can do is practice in the back yard.
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Your suggestion for 11.3.6 wouldn't be appropriate because the third man up rule now states that only the rucks can contest a bounce.
