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[Gigantor]

There is one interesting aspect about this tour by Argentina and Brazil for me.

Back in 1988, we invited both Argentina and Brazil to compete in the Bicentennial Cup, a small tournament to celebrate our bicentenary.

On 7 July 1988 we lost 1-0 to Brazil in front of 11,214 fans at Olympic Park, Melb.

On 14 July 1988 we famously defeated then reigning world champs, Argentina, 4-1 in front of 18,985 fans at the Sydney Football Stadium.

In the final, played on 17 July 1988, we lost 2-0 to Brazil in front of 28,161 fans at the Sydney Football Stadium.

It has to be said, it would appear there is far more interest in Argentina and Brazil, and the world game more generally, than existed nearly 30 years ago.

 

[NoobPie]

Melbourne will be plastered over the pitch and the commentators will of course mention Melbourne a number of times.You know very little about marketing by your negative comments.
I suppose you reckon the Tennis Open and F1 GP are a waste of money as well! That must be why Sydney are always trying to pinch them so they can lose money?
Over the years the State government who actually owns the MCG has put in hundreds of millions of dollars into improvements at the G

Dude, how about you focus on actually logically articulating how the $10 million is actually good "marketing" value rather than relying on ad hominem rubbish?

Are you seriously comparing the Australian Open and the GP with this game, or the two of them with each-other even? These are perpetual events with a far, far, far greater international focus than a soccer friendly between Argentina and Brazil will have.

The Australian Open investment has been a bricks and mortar investment in one of the worlds greatest tennis precincts nested in one of the worlds greatest sporting precincts. The GP is a temporary set up that is assembled and dissembled each year and almost certainly at a significant economic loss. If this friendly is at a $10 million net loss to government then that is a lot of money (to the extent it is justified by "brand awareness") for a game that will not be watched by many people outside of Argentina and Brazil.

 

[NoobPie]

and moreover, (speaking as someone who lives outside Australia) showing Melbourne with a soccer game is pretty much who gives a ****... ie so Melbourne is just the same as every other western city we know of, and they play soccer. Nothing different, nothing novel, nothing to make me want to go there. I think its nice for Australian soccer fans and sports fans to enjoy a match like this, but this will have absolutely 0 visibility outside Australia, and if there is any its not exactly selling the country for what it is... it just appears as a euro-lite destination. People are much more interested in Australia for how we are different, not for playing host to other countries playing soccer.

Great post

It's ye old cultural cringe rearing its ugly head again

 

[The_Wookie]

AFL

• AFLW 2017: Fremantle v Adelaide, Fremantle Oval – 4,758
• Sun STV #AFLW #FoxFooty Dockers v Crows 62k
• JLT 2017: North v Hawthorn, Arden Street – 3,981
• JLT 2017: Gold Coast v Essendon, Mackay – no crowd given yet
• Sun STV #AFL #FoxFooty North Melb v Hawthorn 126k Suns v Bombers 109k
• News reports that the AFL is continuing to secretly trial a Twenty20-inspired version of the game that it believes can take hold in countries across the world, including China.

A-league

• HAL 2016-17: Newcastle v Central Coast, McDonald Jones – 9,423
• Sun STV #ALeague #FoxSports Newcastle v Central Coast 49k
• The Mercury reports that Independent Denison MP Andrew Wilkie believes proposed changes to the A-League will not affect Tasmania’s chances of securing an expansion club, with a significant announcement surrounding the state’s bid expected in about three weeks.
• Michael Cockerill writes in Fairfax that as the A-League stagnates, the National Premier League is in an arms race

NRL

• Phil Rothfield writes that last week’s financial report on the 16 NRL clubs showed why the league has to bring in a second Brisbane team to stop the Broncos’ monopoly.
• News reports the NRL will introduce a salary cap on football departments next season following revelations the 16 clubs have blown their budgets by a staggering $29 million.
• NRL chief Todd Greenberg on Sunday defended the game’s commercial links to gambling in the wake of the allegations levelled at Tim Simona, insisting administrators were working hard to maintain “a really strong balance” between the sport’s integrity and catering for thousands of supporters who enjoyed punting on the competition.
• The Raiders are reporting that they have achieved a new membership record of 15,603

TV

• The Charity Shield was the highest rated sports event on Foxtel this week. Foxfooty was the 5th ranked STV channel.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Over the years the State government who actually owns the MCG has put in hundreds of millions of dollars into improvements at the G

The MCG Trust - a government trust - owns the land the MCG is built on and the National Sports Museum ie all its contents. It now owns the Yarra Park land the car park is on, it took over that land and responsibility within the last decade. The Melbourne Cricket Club - a private organisation - own all the buildings on that land.

I'm pretty sure the Vic government provided the funding for the old Olympic Stand built for the 1956 Olympics, but it didnt spend any money on the MCG until it put in $77m of the $434mil needed to redevelop the northern half of the ground between 2002-2006 for the 2006 Commonwealth Games. The feds were going to put in $90mil but Grocon and the unions wouldn't sign their approved work place agreement, so Howard pulled the funding and Bracks stepped in with a bit less than what the feds were going to grant to the MCC.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

......., but this will have absolutely 0 visibility outside Australia, and if there is any its not exactly selling the country for what it is... it just appears as a euro-lite destination. People are much more interested in Australia for how we are different, not for playing host to other countries playing soccer.

I suspect a s**t load of Brazilians and Argentinians will be watching and take in the views of and from the G. But I agree with your other points.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

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NRL

• Phil Rothfield writes that last week’s financial report on the 16 NRL clubs showed why the league has to bring in a second Brisbane team to stop the Broncos’ monopoly.
• News reports the NRL will introduce a salary cap on football departments next season following revelations the 16 clubs have blown their budgets by a staggering $29 million.
• NRL chief Todd Greenberg on Sunday defended the game’s commercial links to gambling in the wake of the allegations levelled at Tim Simona, insisting administrators were working hard to maintain “a really strong balance” between the sport’s integrity and catering for thousands of supporters who enjoyed punting on the competition.
• The Raiders are reporting that they have achieved a new membership record of 15,603

NRL CEO Todd Greenberg gave a 30 minute interview to ABC broadcaster Andrew Moore on Sunday and it was aired on ABC News 24 at midday. He discussed the gambling issue, salary cap and the bunker as his top 3 challenges, but he discussed many other issues and you can watch on iview at;

http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/nr...-todd-greenberg-nrl-ceo/NU1752H001S00#playing

 

[The_Wookie]

The MCG Trust - a government trust - owns the land the MCG is built on and the National Sports Museum ie all its contents. It now owns the Yarra Park land the car park is on, it took over that land and responsibility within the last decade. The Melbourne Cricket Club - a private organisation - own all the buildings on that land.

I'm pretty sure the Vic government provided the funding for the old Olympic Stand built for the 1956 Olympics, but it didnt spend any money on the MCG until it put in $77m of the $434mil needed to redevelop the northern half of the ground between 2002-2006 for the 2006 Commonwealth Games. The feds were going to put in $90mil but Grocon and the unions wouldn't sign their approved work place agreement, so Howard pulled the funding and Bracks stepped in with a bit less than what the feds were going to grant to the MCC.

1956 Funding was 50% Federal, 25% state and 25% city council. The MCC itself had to foot the bill for an additional 12,000 seats.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/a...e Cricket Ground, Olympic stand&searchLimits=

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

1956 Funding was 50% Federal, 25% state and 25% city council. The MCC itself had to foot the bill for an additional 12,000 seats.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/42769665?searchTerm=Melbourne Cricket Ground, Olympic stand&searchLimits=

Well done. great bit of research. I thought Menzies put some monies in but couldn't remember what sort of figure.

 

[Our Game]

Well done. great bit of research. I thought Menzies put some monies in but couldn't remember what sort of figure.

So the MCC got the old Olympic/Northern Stand for free.

As for the $10 million its a drop in the bucket compared to what has been lost on the F1 GP over the years and the hundreds of millions spent on Melbourne Park by both sides of politics.

So you think no one in the soccer world will be interested in watching two of the top national teams go at it?

Lets see what the local TV ratings are like I bet it out rates any AFL match that week.

 

[jatz14]

So the MCC got the old Olympic/Northern Stand for free.

As for the $10 million its a drop in the bucket compared to what has been lost on the F1 GP over the years and the hundreds of millions spent on Melbourne Park by both sides of politics.

So you think no one in the soccer world will be interested in watching two of the top national teams go at it?

Lets see what the local TV ratings are like I bet it out rates any AFL match that week.

I think plenty will be interested in watching them go at it. Not sure why Vic is paying $10 mill for them to be able to.

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[Garlic muncher]

So the MCC got the old Olympic/Northern Stand for free.

As for the $10 million its a drop in the bucket compared to what has been lost on the F1 GP over the years and the hundreds of millions spent on Melbourne Park by both sides of politics.

So you think no one in the soccer world will be interested in watching two of the top national teams go at it?

Lets see what the local TV ratings are like I bet it out rates any AFL match that week.

I look forward to the paper plane flying season again.

 

[The_Wookie]

So you think no one in the soccer world will be interested in watching two of the top national teams go at it?

Lets see what the local TV ratings are like I bet it out rates any AFL match that week.

Manchester City and Real Madrid were here last year, and the ratings werent anything to write home about (281,000 and 289,000)

 

[NoobPie]

Manchester City and Real Madrid were here last year, and the ratings werent anything to write home about (281,000 and 289,000)

It will be interesting to see how it rates (though the Australian ratings are irrelevant to the question of justifying the $10m price tag. Since the "big blue" grand final pulled 670k, there have only been a couple of soccer games pull more than 500k in Australia looking at your stats. Meanwhile I discovered one round where no afl game rated higher than that grand final. A majority of weekends see at least one game over 1 million.

It would be a brave bet indeed that this game will rate more than any afl game that round. Particularly with the grand final replay on the night before!

http://www.footyindustry.com/files/ffa/media/tvratings/2015-16/2016FFARatings.png

http://footyindustry.com/files/ffa/media/tvratings/2016-17/2016-17FFARatings.png

 

[The_Wookie]

AFL

• News reports that Suns CEO Andrew Travis has resigned.
• News reports that the Victorian Responsible Gambling Foundation, one of Collingwood’s major partners, was in talks with club chiefs about the Magpie Millions lotto game.
• The Age reports that Carlton and AFL officials are discussing a proposal that will help Carlton make significant changes to Ikon Park, including installing new change rooms and re-laying the surface.
• VICTORIA Park could host Collingwood’s AFLW games next season as the Magpies plan for their women’s team to play home games at two venues in 2018.

A-league

• CASEY-Dandenong A-League backers say their prospective club is “another Western Sydney Wanderers” waiting to happen. The heads of three major councils in Melbourne’s booming south-east suburbs — Greater Dandenong, Casey and Cardinia — met for a second time last week to formalise their commitment to an A-League licence bid.

NRL

• Foxtels new NRL Channel – Fox League – formally opened its programming last night.
• The Guardian reports on the Redcliffe Dolphins: 70 years growing and with ambitious plans for future in NRL.
• The Australian reports that a vote on John Grants future as chairmen of the ARLC is due today. The vast majority of clubs and states have privately indicated their support for John Grant in recent weeks but the ARL Commission chairman still faces an anxious wait this morning to hear whether those in his corner have submitted the votes necessary to save his position.
• The Financial Review reports on how the business case stacks up for the Fox league channel
• Mumbrella reports that more than 20 brands have signed up to partner with Fox League channel

Super Netball

• Mumbrella reports that Aussie Apples has signed a six-figure sponsorship deal with Netball Australia

 

[Demonoid]

Its also about the unknown factor of international recognition that puts Melbournes name out there as an interesting place to visit.
$10 million is a small price to pay for that kind of PR worldwide

I'm with you on this one. Considering the money squandered by governments over the years (exhibit A the Vic state government spend a billion dollars not to build a road), I think $10m is actually peanuts considering we are getting the top 2 teams in the world to play in Melbourne. I am not the worlds biggest soccer fan, but I will be watching on TV - especially if both countries bring out their strongest teams.

 

[Demonoid]

AFL

• News reports that Suns CEO Andrew Travis has resigned.
• News reports that the Victorian Responsible Gambling Foundation, one of Collingwood’s major partners, was in talks with club chiefs about the Magpie Millions lotto game.
• The Age reports that Carlton and AFL officials are discussing a proposal that will help Carlton make significant changes to Ikon Park, including installing new change rooms and re-laying the surface.
• VICTORIA Park could host Collingwood’s AFLW games next season as the Magpies plan for their women’s team to play home games at two venues in 2018.

A-league

• CASEY-Dandenong A-League backers say their prospective club is “another Western Sydney Wanderers” waiting to happen. The heads of three major councils in Melbourne’s booming south-east suburbs — Greater Dandenong, Casey and Cardinia — met for a second time last week to formalise their commitment to an A-League licence bid.

NRL

• Foxtels new NRL Channel – Fox League – formally opened its programming last night.
• The Guardian reports on the Redcliffe Dolphins: 70 years growing and with ambitious plans for future in NRL.
• The Australian reports that a vote on John Grants future as chairmen of the ARLC is due today. The vast majority of clubs and states have privately indicated their support for John Grant in recent weeks but the ARL Commission chairman still faces an anxious wait this morning to hear whether those in his corner have submitted the votes necessary to save his position.
• The Financial Review reports on how the business case stacks up for the Fox league channel
• Mumbrella reports that more than 20 brands have signed up to partner with Fox League channel

Super Netball

• Mumbrella reports that Aussie Apples has signed a six-figure sponsorship deal with Netball Australia

Re Andrew Travis resignation, according to Caro, she is implying it was forced. Mark Evans is the new man.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/mark-evans-named-ceo-of-gold-coast-suns-20170227-gumto3.html

 

[The_Wookie]

Industry News Summary for March 1st

A-league

• ACL 2017 – Usuan Hyundai v Brisbane, Ulsan Munsu Football Stadium, Crowd: 1,303
• ACL 2017 – Shanghai SIPG v Western Sydney, Shanghai Stadium, Crowd: 28,090
• Tues ACL STV – neither ACL match made the top 20 (Fox ratings cut off at 34,000)
• After reportedly rejecting an FTA offer, the Algarve Cup will be shown on Foxtel.
• FFA shelve expansion for two years, tell clubs bigger league will mean losses
• The FFA says that expanding current A-League model would be disastrous
• SOUTH Melbourne says it can provide a professional women’s set-up to match all other W-League teams in the country.
• Football Federation Australia (FFA) will this week begin the detailed work with Hyundai A-League /Westfield W-League clubs to develop a new ownership and operating model for both leagues.

AFL

• WA Football Commission chairman Murray McHenry has declared the State’s football financially better off despite a $4 million dip in revenue derived from Domain Stadium last year.
• AFL development boss Simon Lethlean looks certain to take over the game’s football department in the coming days following Mark Evans’ departure to the Gold Coast.
• Gold Coast have denied claims the AFL installed Mark Evans as their new CEO to improve the club’s management.
• Caroline Wilson writes that Evans appointment is the latest move to getting the Suns back on track.
• WESTERN Bulldogs football manager Graham Lowe is set to depart the Kennel during the early rounds of the club’s premiership defence. Lowe is leaving the Dogs in early April in search of more balance between family and work, and to pursue high-performance leadership consultancy. He will be replaced by Bulldogs coaching manager Chris Maple.
• The GIANTS are pleased to announce that WestConnex will join the club as a foundation community partner of GIANTS Care
• RICHMOND’S board reshuffle has continued with the Tigers filling their two casual vacancies. Former Hay Group (Pacific) managing director Henriette Rothschild and former SEEK Education managing director Joe Powell have been unanimously accepted after recommendations from a nominations committee.
• Port Adelaide president David Koch has told the Gold Coast Suns if they wear red-and-gold jumpers in their match in Shanghai, it will be the last time they are invited to China.
• NEW GOLD Coast chief executive Mark Evans has fired back in the slanging match with Port Adelaide, boldly declaring the Suns will wear their home strip when the clubs clash in a historic match in China.
• The ABC reports that the GWS Giants are leading rise of the ‘super club’ in AFL, AFLW and netball

NRL

• NRL STV Tues Ratings – NRL 360 39,000, Sterlo 38,000
• Todd Greenburg has told the ABC that the game has only been operating at 75 per cent and needed to do better.
• After four years as head of strategy and investment for the NRL, Andrew Fraser has decided to resign, citing the pressure of commuting from Brisbane.
• Nick Weeks has been appointed deputy chief executive of the NRL, or more specifically, chief operating officer and head of integrity. He will take responsibility for the following divisions – strategy, broadcasting, community, government, legal, HR and responsibility for dealing with the RLPA.
• Cronulla have announced Opal Solar is their new major partner for the next 2 seasons
• NRMA has announced last year it will extend its Broncos sponsorship for another 3 years.
• The NRL has strengthened its regulations on betting, forcing bookmakers to be in an agreement with the league and banning most exotic options
• The North Queensland Toyota Cowboys and James Cook University are teaming up, announcing a strategic partnership to boost health, wellbeing and education in northern Queensland.
• Crown Resorts will sell its flagship golf courses and axe sponsorships of the nation’s top rugby league teams and sporting stars, including former Australian cricket captain Michael Clarke, as its billionaire owner James Packer makes dramatic cost cuts across the casino group. Crown’s sponsorship of the South Sydney Rabbitohs and Melbourne Storm NRL teams has also been abandoned as part of the review.
• the Guardian asks whats next for the World Club Challenge series and says its time to dream big

 

[Garlic muncher]

Guns and roses and Adele last night would have have made the WAFC a million or so.

Where will the WAFC recoup this money at the new stadium - although the Government has repeatedly said football will not be worse off at the new stadium.

 

[Our Game]

Guns and roses and Adele last night would have have made the WAFC a million or so.

Where will the WAFC recoup this money at the new stadium - although the Government has repeatedly said football will not be worse off at the new stadium.

Crown have dumped NRL clubs Storm and South Sydney sponserships when they expire due to revenue problems at their casinos

 

[Our Game]

Hey wookie how did the Indian First Test rate as a comparison to other sports on Foxtel?

 

[The_Wookie]

Hey wookie how did the Indian First Test rate as a comparison to other sports on Foxtel?

didnt rate at all

 

[Our Game]

didnt rate at all

Thats interesting and surprising I watched a lot of it and it as a great match to watch for Aussie fans.Maybe there are not that many cricket fans with Foxtel.

 

[The_Wookie]

Thursday News

Soccer

• ACL 2017 - Adelaide v Jiangsu Suning at Nanjing Olympic Sports Centre, Attendance: 41,033
• Note: ACL clash didnt make the top 20 Foxtel programmes, with cutoff at 37,000
• Football Federation Australia will prioritise clubs playing in the Asian Champions League when scheduling next season's draw by making fixtures flexible to account for travel loads and continental competition.

AFL

• The Australian reports that the stunning success of the inaugural women’s league has the AFL reconsidering the expansion timetable for the eight-team competition.
• The Age reports that the AFL Womens competition will be free again next year.
• The West reports that AFL boss Gillon McLachlan hopes there is a Tasmanian team in the women's league "sooner rather than later".
• AFL Women's organisers are hoping to avoid a grand final headache if Brisbane's stellar form continues.
• NORWOOD Football Club will bid to host the inaugural AFL women’s league grand final at The Parade.
• AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan has fronted pay talks with the powerful player union for the first time.
• AFL Victoria has launched a girls mirror of the TAC Cup

NRL

• Fox League Wednesday - League Life 42,000, NRL 360 41,000

Rugby Union

• The Australian reports that an independent company would be formed by all five Super Rugby clubs if the decision is taken to go ahead with a State of Origin concept, but even though the proposed date is less than four months away the project remains in limbo.

 

[thegreig]

Tasmanian AFLW team... Very interesting