All Australian thread 2015

[shinboner spiggs]

So Sandilands got the ruck taps but Goldstein got more disposals? Sounds fair.

Don't forget marks, score involvements and metres gained, good stats those.

 

[Young Gun #6]

Really bad value for the brownlow.

Ruckmen never poll well. Cox the perfect example.

Cox has never had as good a season as goldsteins this year though..

 

[DangerSloane]

Updated Forward line

HF: R.Gray J.Riewoldt P.Dangerfield
F: C.Wingard J.Kennedy J.Stringer

Out: Betts
In: Stringer

LOL Robbie Gray?
Pull the other one champ.
Wingard HFF, either Betts or Rioli forward pocket.

Dont be silly now.

No Jack Riewoldt either.

 

[El_Scorcho]

LOL Robbie Gray?
Pull the other one champ.
Wingard HFF, either Betts or Rioli forward pocket.

Dont be silly now.

No Jack Riewoldt either.

Gray would be getting picked as a midfielder who goes forward, which happens basically every year. He's leading the league in centre clearances and is averaging over a goal a game, so is an obvious choice there and is named there in every 2nd team posted in this thread.

Dangerfield will get picked on the ball, not in the forward line.

 

[Super Hans]

Cox has never had as good a season as goldsteins this year though..

Cox at his best had better seasons than this from Goldy. Different types of ruckmen, but I'm taking Cox everyday of the week.

 

[Super Hans]

And Cripps is nowhere near the team.

 

[Wild Bill]

Sandilands giving Goldstein a bath again.

Herald Sun Voting

3 - Harvey
2 - Goldy
1 - Neale

 

[Donakebab]

Yes Daniel Talia in 2012 I think. Possibly Buckley in 1993 when He was at Brisbane. Midfielder spots are hotly contested. Cripps might make it on the bench.

Talia didn't even make the squad, let alone the team, in 2012. The only time he has made either is last year.

 

[DangerSloane]

Gray would be getting picked as a midfielder who goes forward, which happens basically every year. He's leading the league in centre clearances and is averaging over a goal a game, so is an obvious choice there and is named there in every 2nd team posted in this thread.

Dangerfield will get picked on the ball, not in the forward line.

Gray wont make the team I don't think. Too many good mids and I don't think they can slip him in on a HFF this year, especially given Wingard's pretty much wrapped one of them up.

He had a much better season last year IMO.

 

[Chopperdave]

Gray wont make the team I don't think. Too many good mids and I don't think they can slip him in on a HFF this year, especially given Wingard's pretty much wrapped one of them up.

He had a much better season last year IMO.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...d1=1773&tid2=2&pid2=2310&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=S

I don't see too much different in those stats. If danger is as big a lock as everyone is saying then I don't see why Robbie won't be. Apart from goals kicked his season this year has been just as good if not better than last year.

 

[S120]

Robbie Gray has to be there IMO. At least on the bench. He and Wingard have both been great this year.

Off hand, here's my first go at the side so have at it:

B: Heath Shaw, Alex Rance, Easton Wood
HB: Sam Mitchell, Michael Hurley, Rob Murphy
C: Andrew Gaff, Patrick Dangerfield, Dan Hannebery
HF: Chad Wingard, Taylor Walker, Robbie Gray
F: Cyril Rioli, Josh Kennedy, Eddie Betts
R: Todd Goldstein, Nat Fyfe, Scott Pendlebury

I/C: Matt Priddis, Nic Naitanui, Luke Hodge, Josh Kennedy

Next closest ten in no particular order: Aaron Sandilands, Dane Swan, David Mundy, Daniel Talia, Jeremy Cameron, Jake Stringer, Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt, Lachie Neale, David Armitage

 

[Big_Birdy]

Herald Sun Voting

3 - Harvey
2 - Goldy
1 - Neale

Dunstall gave Sandi 3 for Fox Footy.

Obviously subjective

 

[eth-dog]

Sandi was BOG yesterday, dominated Goldstein.

 

[DangerSloane]

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...d1=1773&tid2=2&pid2=2310&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=S

I don't see too much different in those stats. If danger is as big a lock as everyone is saying then I don't see why Robbie won't be. Apart from goals kicked his season this year has been just as good if not better than last year.

I'm not sure Danger is a lock either.
He will poll well in the brownlow regardless, just because he polls well.

Fyfe is the only midfield lock IMO.
Oh and Goldstein if you count rucks.

 

[DangerSloane]

Sandi was BOG yesterday, dominated Goldstein.

Sandi was good yesterday, but Goldstein has been high quality all year.
There is no way Sandi is ahead of Goldstein in AA calculations.

 

[Wild Bill]

Sandi was BOG yesterday, dominated Goldstein.

Maybe add - "IMO"

Goldy's last quarter was huge. Blew Sandi up and was involved in most of our goals and kicked 2 himself.

IMO - I would prefer the match winning ruckmen to the hitout winning ruckmen. 4 points is worth more than more taps.

 

[DangerSloane]

Robbie Gray has to be there IMO. At least on the bench. He and Wingard have both been great this year.

Off hand, here's my first go at the side so have at it:

B: Heath Shaw, Alex Rance, Easton Wood
HB: Sam Mitchell, Michael Hurley, Rob Murphy
C: Andrew Gaff, Patrick Dangerfield, Dan Hannebery
HF: Chad Wingard, Taylor Walker, Robbie Gray
F: Cyril Rioli, Josh Kennedy, Eddie Betts
R: Todd Goldstein, Nat Fyfe, Scott Pendlebury

I/C: Matt Priddis, Nic Naitanui, Luke Hodge, Josh Kennedy

Next closest ten in no particular order: Aaron Sandilands, Dane Swan, David Mundy, Daniel Talia, Jeremy Cameron, Jake Stringer, Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt, Lachie Neale, David Armitage

Thought Laird might appear in your next closest... he's been outstanding

 

[DangerSloane]

Maybe add - "IMO"

Goldy's last quarter was huge. Blew Sandi up and was involved in most of our goals and kicked 2 himself.

IMO - I would prefer the match winning ruckmen to the hitout winning ruckmen. 4 points is worth more than more taps.

Sandi had as many touches and also kicked 2 goals.
not his fault his team stopped to a walk in the 2nd half... he was the better ruckman on the day.

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

Gray wont make the team I don't think. Too many good mids and I don't think they can slip him in on a HFF this year, especially given Wingard's pretty much wrapped one of them up.

He had a much better season last year IMO.

IMO robbie gray is the best player in AFL after ablett and fyfe. if gray doesn't make the team it shows the selectors have no idea.

 

[JHF1870]

Gray wont make the team I don't think. Too many good mids and I don't think they can slip him in on a HFF this year, especially given Wingard's pretty much wrapped one of them up.

He had a much better season last year IMO.

Champion Data pegs Gray as one of the best Mids

 

[kane249]

Cox has never had as good a season as goldsteins this year though..

In terms of hitouts no, in terms of around the ground Goldstein is yet to beat many of Cox's years.

 

[eaglespremiers]

There is no way Sandi is ahead of Goldstein in AA calculations.

Not even ahead of Naitanui IMO.

 

[Wild Bill]

Sandi had as many touches and also kicked 2 goals.
not his fault his team stopped to a walk in the 2nd half... he was the better ruckman on the day.

Clearly beat Goldy in the 1st half - Goldy clearly beat him in the 2nd.

Goldy exploded in the last as he does when the other ruck stops running.

 

[eth-dog]

Cox has never had as good a season as goldsteins this year though..

Taking the piss, yeah? I'd take Cox averaging 22 disposals, 6 marks and 26 hit outs 2008 (playing in partnership to Seaby) to Goldsteins 15 disposal, 4 mark, 44 hit outs year this year while playing solo every day of the week.

 

[Wild Bill]

Taking the piss, yeah? I'd take Cox averaging 22 disposals, 6 marks and 26 hit outs 2008 (playing in partnership to Seaby) to Goldsteins 15 disposal, 4 mark, 44 hit outs year this year while playing solo every day of the week.

Who did Cox share the ruck duties with in 2008? He went solo as well - unless you count Quinton Lynch as a 2nd ruckmen.