Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

[fortunatecrow]

SA Labor learning the meaning of the phrase ‘live by the sword die by the sword’.

Their politicising and framing of the ramping crisis heading into the election over simplified a highly complex issue, and overstated their ability to influence or solve it. They are now (rightfully) being judged by those same unrealistic standards.

In addition to mental health, the erosion of bulk billing in general practice and associated impacts on screening programs and management of chronic disease is also a big concern, particularly in poorer communities. This will also gradually add more pressure on the acute sector.

Quite right. Raising an issue if you have no plans to do anything different is a road to pain

 

[Slippery Pete]

Quite right. Raising an issue if you have no plans to do anything different is a road to pain

To be fair, what it is first and foremost is a road to winning and gaining power, a road devoid of SA Liberals.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

The needle, mask and Ukraine flag (soon to be a HAMAS flag no doubt!!)

Didn't you have the Ukraine flag as your avatar for ages?

 

[Crow till I die]

Didn't you have the Ukraine flag as your avatar for ages?

And the syringe..and the mask (probably a cloth one)..and the pro hamas support in the comments?

 

[Brett Cummings]

And the syringe..and the mask (probably a cloth one)..and the pro hamas support in the comments?

Welcome to the cookers club. Where all conspiracy theories come true.

 

[kirky]

As long as the greens have no part in it..in fact if they could go the way of the Dodo at the next election, the whole country would be better off

Unfortunately for you better keep dreaming, the Greens will be here to stay.

 

[Crow till I die]

Unfortunately for you better keep dreaming, the Greens will be here to stay.

To the detriment of the rest of the country

 

[kirky]

How long have the Labor party been in power again? Giles and O'Neill are incompetent end of story.

https://ministers.ag.gov.au/media-centre/appointments-high-court-australia-22-08-2023

So are trying to say that the ALP should forsee the problems with all Coalition legislation it enacted the last 10 years and fix?

Seriously, the High Court thru out Dutton’s legislation when he was a Coalition Minister and it took 3 weeks to issue the reasons why and you expect the government to rush thru legislation before knowing what the reasons were.

You do understand if they put thru legislation and got it wrong it because they didn’t have the reasons, it could have been challenged, you do get that don’t you?

And now they, the Coalition, want to know when any of them are charged with a crime or released from detention. Do we do that now for those Australian citizens released from jail for serious crimes? No but we have to show how tough we are. Dutton and his scare campaign. Pathetic.

 

[kirky]

Some arrived by boat, most arrived by plane. Scomo was very proud of stopping the boats - but he did **** all about stopping those arriving by plane, who outnumbered the boat arrivals by roughly 10:1.

The other thing that most seem to have forgotten is the Coalition governments refused to comment “on water and border matters”.

Yep, Coalitions are hypocrites. Politics 101.

 

[Cap]

Unfortunately for you better keep dreaming, the Greens will be here to stay.

How the Greens keep pulling people away from Labor is a touch bizzare.

Moderate Libs went Teal/Indy the racists and the bigots went Pauline Hanson/Clive Palmer/United Australia and the the remaining hard right elected Peter Dutton.

Is Labor doing a LNP, moving right, but keeping its moderates and losing its Left ?

 

[kirky]

What utter tripe...

Run that by the lady that was assaulted in Pooraka and see how you go.

If it works it ain't broke.

What is really disgraceful is these a-holes out in the public domain wreaking havoc on innocent civilians.

You really are thick as a brick.

The High Court thru it out as it was unconstitutional.

You do know the Constitution.

 

[kirky]

Mark Doofus is a KC you know a King's Counsel that doesn't know his arse from his elbow apparently or this would never have happened if when they were warned in June by Justice Gleeson that the outcome from Mark Doofus KC's decision to open up the opportunity for the Human Rights Commission to test this legislation may not be favourable.

What did the 3 clowns in charge Attorney-General Mark Doofus KC, Immigration Minister Andrew Giles and Home Affairs Minister Clare O'Neill do when warned in June by a member of the High Court Justice Gleeson? I'll tell you what they did * all, nada, nought, nothing, no contingency plan, nada, nought nothing.

Worse still they immediately released all 149 detainees when they only needed to release the one detainee that was concerned in the action until they received the High Court's reasons for overturning the existing legislation.

Finally after the horse has well and truly bolted they then go into emergency mode and start to prepare legislation.

It's laughable that anyone would try to defend such incompetence.

It seems you're thicker than a brick.

Let me guess, you been watching SkyNews yet again?

 

[Cap]

9Oh dear...

https://www.skynews.com.au/business/government-spending-making-reserve-banks-inflation-fight-harder-according-to-report-from-global-ratings-agency-sp/news-story/66c3538df34146b75a5599fcc77d51cd

From the article

Rising expenditure was primarily being driven by higher spending on infrastructure and services, such as the NDIS, with both the previous Coalition government and the current Albanese government carrying some responsibility for the increase.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Oh dear...

https://www.skynews.com.au/business/government-spending-making-reserve-banks-inflation-fight-harder-according-to-report-from-global-ratings-agency-sp/news-story/66c3538df34146b75a5599fcc77d51cd

Bahahaha.. skynews is nothing but Peter Duttons cheer squad!..

But lets unpack this one liner…

“Government is spending $50 billion more a year now than pre pandemic levels”..

What absolute genius came up with this revelation?..

Have they had their head up their arse for the last 2-3 years and not noticed the worldwide inflation rates?..

Gee.. I fxxkn wonder why a government now would be spending $50b more then they were pre-pandemic..

Are you that ignorant you dont think the costs of everything going up around the world and at home wouldnt make government costs go up also?

This is the perfect skynews headline.. perfect for the dumbfxxk drones that read and watch their nonsense, eating it up like the suckholes they are.

 

[Cap]

Bahahaha.. skynews is nothing but Peter Duttons cheer squad!..

But lets unpack this one liner…

“Government is spending $50 billion more a year now than pre pandemic levels”..

What absolute genius came up with this revelation?..

Have they had their head up their arse for the last 2-3 years and not noticed the worldwide inflation rates?..

Gee.. I fxxkn wonder why a government now would be spending $50b more then they were pre-pandemic..

Are you that ignorant you dont think the costs of everything going up around the world and at home wouldnt make government costs go up also?

This is the perfect skynews headline.. perfect for the dumbfxxk drones that read and watch their nonsense, eating it up like the suckholes they are.

He didn't read the article, that would be too difficult.

Just saw the headline and posted it.

Just to add the discussion

Government spending splurge is blunting RBA rate rises: S&P

Federal and state governments are spending $50 billion a year more than pre-pandemic, making the inflation fight harder, a leading credit rating agency says.

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Federal and state governments are spending $50 billion a year more than before the pandemic, making the Reserve Bank of Australia’s inflation fight harder, a leading credit rating agency says.

Big spending by governments on infrastructure and social services was “dulling” the impact of RBA interest rate rises by adding to domestic demand in the economy, S&P Ratings analyst Anthony Walker said in a new report on Thursday.

He said governments were recycling the very strong tax revenue from booming mining exports, low unemployment and property stamp duties back into higher government spending.


Anthony Walker, director sovereign ratings at S&P Ratings. Eamon Gallagher

“Given the extremely strong revenue growth, we would be expecting the government [Commonwealth and states] to run larger surpluses, if spending was back at pre-pandemic levels,” he said.

“Government spending is 2 per cent of GDP higher than prior to the pandemic, which likely supports domestic demand and prices, particularly in the infrastructure sector.


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“We estimate Australian governments (both central and subnational governments) are spending an extra $50 billion a year, after adjusting for the growth in the economy, than they were leading into the pandemic.”

Mr Walker said S&P believed the RBA would need to lift the cash rate beyond the current 4.35 per cent to reduce inflation to the target band of 2 per cent to 3 per cent over the next few years.

Stripping out temporary stimulus spending during the pandemic, both Coalition and Labor governments have contributed to the structural spending increase on big ticket items such as the National Disability Insurance Scheme, aged care and infrastructure.

The federal government is responsible for about 55 per cent of the uplift in spending since 2019, with the remaining 45 per cent due to state and territory governments.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese announced after a meeting with state and territory leaders on Wednesday that the federal government will give the states $25 billion in GST top-up payments and extra health and hospital funding by the end of the decade, in return for their agreement to reform the NDIS and save money on the disability program.

Mr Walker said the deal would likely result in higher overall spending by governments.


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Treasurer Jim Chalmers delivered a budget surplus of $22 billion for last financial year, the largest ever in dollar terms, thanks to surging personal and company tax payments. It was the federal government’s equal 11th-largest surplus as a share of the economy, at 0.9 per cent of GDP.


A second federal budget surplus is considered likely by economists this year.

S&P forecasts state governments to run combined deficits of about 2.1 per cent of GDP in 2023-24, or more than $50 billion, due to commodity prices falling and as some states increase cost-of-living support.

Economic growth slowed to just 0.2 per cent in the September quarter, with government spending and capital investment the main drivers of growth, Australian Bureau of Statistics head of national accounts Katherine Keenan said.

The International Monetary Fund last month warned that Australia’s infrastructure spending boom had helped push the economy beyond full capacity, putting pressure on inflation and the RBA to increase interest rates.


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An independent review of Australia’s $120 billion, 10-year infrastructure pipeline has recommended more than 80 road and rail projects be axed, and a further 36 have funding withdrawn subject to better planning.

The review found there had been $32.8 billion worth of cost blowouts in the existing $80 billion, 10-year Infrastructure Investment Program, $14.2 billion of which was on projects that had not even begun construction.

Infrastructure Minister Catherine King has cut 50 projects to save $7.3 billion and announced $6.7 billion in additional funding to cover some of the cost overruns.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Kane McGoodwin happy now you've been tagged?

Strange that for some reason this notification hasn't come through my alerts. Did you edit your post?

There needs to be a proper review into improving the ED system & proper plan as to how they intend to fix the system.

ED's still operate on a triage system where priority 1 (resus) patients are prioritised over 2's, then 3's, etc.

The issue is with mental health patients stuck in ED's & many category 4's & 5's flooding ED's because they can't get to GP's where they would be getting more appropriate care.

I believe you can be quickly seen in a priority care centre... but need to be referred.

The system as a whole needs an overhaul but it crossed 2 levels of government... which is why I have always said the system won't ever be properly fixed until all under the 1 jurisdiction.

 

[rocket18]

SA Labor learning the meaning of the phrase ‘live by the sword die by the sword’.

Their politicising and framing of the ramping crisis heading into the election over simplified a highly complex issue, and overstated their ability to influence or solve it. They are now (rightfully) being judged by those same unrealistic standards.

In addition to mental health, the erosion of bulk billing in general practice and associated impacts on screening programs and management of chronic disease is also a big concern, particularly in poorer communities. This will also gradually add more pressure on the acute sector.

I hope those pathetic ambo officers that allowed themselves to be used as political prawns take a good hard look at themselves.

 

[Cap]

I hole those pathetic ambo officers that allowed themselves to be used as political prawns take a good hard look at themselves.

SA Ambulance Enterprise Agreement 2022 – SAET Approval – Ambulance Employees Association

www.aeasa.com.au

They were well compensated it appears.

 

[fortunatecrow]

allowed themselves to be used as political prawns

when I hear of 'political prawns" I think of Chris Bowen

 

[rocket18]

Strange that for some reason this notification hasn't come through my alerts. Did you edit your post?

There needs to be a proper review into improving the ED system & proper plan as to how they intend to fix the system.

ED's still operate on a triage system where priority 1 (resus) patients are prioritised over 2's, then 3's, etc.

The issue is with mental health patients stuck in ED's & many category 4's & 5's flooding ED's because they can't get to GP's where they would be getting more appropriate care.

I believe you can be quickly seen in a priority care centre... but need to be referred.

The system as a whole needs an overhaul but it crossed 2 levels of government... which is why I have always said the system won't ever be properly fixed until all under the 1 jurisdiction.

Fancy building the worlds most expensive building and you couldn't fix this problem, which group of peanuts designed the new RAH?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Fancy building the worlds most expensive building and you couldn't fix this problem, which group of peanuts designed the new RAH?

David Panter... or better known as David Pantsdown.

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Didn't even consult the clinicians.

But he did travel all over the world to come up with his utopia with no sense of practicality.

FFS the ED cubicles were not even big enough. So many design faults & most expensive building in the Southern hemisphere.

Then there is the PPP interest costs where we are guaranteeing crazy interest rates.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

This has kirky fingerprints all over it working with the electoral commission. Those trips to the USA not wasted.

Adelaide Plains councillors Eddie Stubing, Terry-Anne Keen kicked out over election errors​

The pair lost their seats on a South Australian council after a city council stoush over election results spilled out of the city.
Two Adelaide Plains councillors will be stood down after human error led to the declaration of an incorrect election result by the Electoral Commission of South Australia.
In preparation for a court challenge involving unsuccessful Adelaide City Council candidate Alexander Hyde, ECSA reviewed results for the 2022 local government elections and discovered the error.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/two-adelaide-plains-councillors-will-be-stood-down-after-human-error-leads-to-incorrect-election-outcome/news-story/0c46c5910be3f52fae856167b02bfc09

 

[The Perfect Stranger]

Labors disastrous "same job, same pay" bill. Socialism?

 

[PeterSalt]

Here's the full video.

Seems a bit meh, but I get why people will love to make it a thing.

Question should be what are they doing to mitigate it

We can look in rear view mirror in a few weeks and apportion blame

 

[Slippery Pete]