Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

[fortunatecrow]

How is this a bad thing? Illegal laws should always be overturned, and replaced by ones which are constitutional.

The bad thing is not that Dreyfus allowed/approved (whatever) the AHRC to become at involved.

But once he made a conscious decision that there was a good reason to do so, then when he made that decision he was on notice that there was a good reason. He can't say he was surprised because he either did, or should have, specifically considered the issues in the case and the likelihood of success.

It is impossible for him to claim to be he surprised by what he himself did, knowing what he knew , to do it.

 

[Vader]

LOL there was no tweet in that post and you know it!!

Sorry, which post were you referring to then? You've posted so much garbage lately that I've lost track. I tend to skim over a lot of your posts, once you go into mindless rant mode.

 

[Vader]

The bad thing is not that Dreyfus allowed/approved (whatever) the AHRC to become at involved.


But once he made a conscious decision that there was a good reason to do so, then when he made that decision he was on notice that there was a good reason. He can't say he was surprised because he either did, or should have, specifically considered the issues in the case and the likelihood of success.

It is impossible for him to claim to be he surprised by what he himself did, knowing what he knew , to do it.

I accept that they should have started contingency planning once Gleeson made those comments... but it's hard to come up with a solid plan until you know exactly which parts of the law are unconstitutional (which only the HC can decide).

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Their old mate Vader unravelling faster than his beloved ALP too

Poor Vader.
Sometimes, this old bible quote is applicable.

"Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue."

 

[Slippery Pete]

The public are stupid sheep

Except you of course

 

[Crow till I die]

This mob are as incompetent as little Cwissy Bowen who I see you've give a big miss replying to my previous post re that particular detainee.

Ashes to Ashes dust to dust, If Chalmers can't screw you, Dreyfus must

 

[Crow till I die]

The bad thing is not that Dreyfus allowed/approved (whatever) the AHRC to become at involved.

But once he made a conscious decision that there was a good reason to do so, then when he made that decision he was on notice that there was a good reason. He can't say he was surprised because he either did, or should have, specifically considered the issues in the case and the likelihood of success.

It is impossible for him to claim to be he surprised by what he himself did, knowing what he knew , to do it.

There is a third answer you are missing - he is just totally incompetent and bewildered by his portfolio

 

[Brett Cummings]

The public are stupid sheep, who have been fed faux outrage by a media which is concentrating on the current problem - and not the problem's source.

There's so much irony in this post

 

[fortunatecrow]

Poor Vader.
Sometimes, this old bible quote is applicable.

"Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue."

In fairness, at least he fronts up and has a crack...there some others who seem to have gone into witness protection

 

[Crow till I die]

In fairness, at least he fronts up and has a crack...there some others who seem to have gone into witness protection

Lol - that is one of the best put downs seen on this thread for some time....the Washington Wizards also used to turn up and have a crack

 

[fortunatecrow]

The Age reporting:

"Fourth man charged after High Court release from detention

ByAlex Crowe​

A Sudanese-born man has become the fourth detainee to be charged after being released from indefinite detention, following his arrest in Melbourne for theft and breaching his visa conditions.
The 45-year-old man was arrested at a Melbourne hotel after he allegedly breached the conditions of his Commonwealth visa last Friday, by failing to observe his curfew obligations.
The man is alleged to have visited Melbourne Airport and stolen luggage from a traveller who was asleep in a terminal.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/ombudsman-finds-victorias-public-service-undermined-by-political-secrecy-culture-of-fear/news-story/4413e014e457c5543691debf4de890b1

Ombudsman finds Victoria’s public service undermined by political secrecy, culture of fear​

The power amassed by Daniel Andrews through the Premier’s Private Office has created a public service ruled by excessive secrecy and fear, an alarming Ombudsman report has found.

The centralisation of power around Daniel Andrews’ former office has been linked to an increasingly politicised public service that has sparked concerns about the proper use of taxpayer funds.
In a damning new report tabled on Wednesday, Victorian Ombudsman Deborah Glass warned the work of Victorian public servants was now being undermined by a culture of fear that had corrupted the sector.

Ms Glass found that in 2022 the Premier’s office employed as many staff as the offices of the Prime Minister and NSW Premier combined.

She also raised concerns about secrecy around major projects and government initiatives, singling out the controversial $125bn Suburban Rail Loop she said lacked “rigorous public sector scrutiny”.

“It was subject to excessive secrecy and ‘proved up’ by consultants rather than developed by public servants. Its announcement ‘blindsided’ the agency set up by the same government to remove short-term politics from infrastructure planning,” Ms Glass said.

“The lack of rigorous public sector scrutiny over such projects before they are announced poses obvious risks to public funds.”
“Politicisation can take many forms. It is not just the hiring of people with political affiliations,” Ms Glass said.

“It is also the closing down or marginalisation of apolitical, independent voices.

“Creeping politicisation is a reality in Victoria, and requires urgent attention.”

Ms Glass said she was unable to take her investigation as far as she’d like due to cabinet secrecy, poor record keeping and a reluctance from witnesses to take part.

“Cabinet secrecy is certainly a significant block in a number of areas where we sought to go,” she said.

“There were sort of many moments in there where you are basically chasing rabbits down holes and the path is blocked.

“(For example) the answers to the Suburban Rail Loop are shrouded in cabinet secrecy which I am simply unable to access.

“There were certainly moments of frustration.”

Ms Glass said she had concerns about a general reluctance from witnesses to take part in her investigation due to fear of repercussion.

“The fear factor was certainly disturbing,” she said. Ms Glass’ investigation was predominantly focused on the second term of Daniel Andrews’ leadership from 2018-22.

The Andrews Government has been the closest Government to Sir Joe's long corrupt reign in Queensland.

It's staggering how unless the Liberals have been that they haven't been able to get back into power with stuff up after stuff up after stuff up.

You have to question the intelligence of most Victorians...

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Care to comment Mr Centrist? Your field of employment and dare I say it expertise...

Given Labor have been in power in SA mostly over the last 2 decades surely the failure is almost all down to them.

How about you actually tag me Bicks!

The state ALP have been throwing money at the health system in a non-strategic way & I said this when called into an urgent meeting as a guest with DHW execs more than a year ago.

The money needs to be spent where it will make a difference.

If you had taken notice of any of my posts on this matter, a proper mental health in the home program is badly needed across all of metropolitan Adelaide for those who have supports in the home as this will ease mental health bed block... as it's mental health patients that on average are being stuck in Emergency Departments for on average of more than 8 hours... up to 4 days! Yes, there are hundreds of mental health patients stuck in ED for more than 1 day.

I felt so passionate about this I wrote a business case for 2x LHN's. 1 got it going straight away 2 years ago with success, but the other whilst funding has been approved has not... & instead wasted money on the Adelaide Clinic with poorer outcomes. They are now finally getting it going in February after a 2 year delay!

Now need SALHN to do the same & this will address most of the patients stuck in ED for way too long.

It's not rocket science, but just needs the right leadership.

I could go on with other issues but this I'd the biggest cause. I called it years ago & money has instead been wasted elsewhere with little impact on the ED problem.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Mutineer - I know you are not a fan of the ABC, but you should watch a replay of 7:30 report interview with the Victorian Ombudsman.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Wow, the Victorian premiers office of 84 advisors are more than the Commonwealth & NSW combined!

Then there is the monies they spent on the Big 4 advisors like PWC.

 

[fortunatecrow]

Money shouldn't be the problem. The Gonski plan is spending $320b over 10 years.

 

[Crow till I die]

Money shouldn't be the problem. The Gonski plan is spending $320b over 10 years.

I'd be ok with the whole $320B being spent on weeding out the marxist teachers from the primary / secondary / tertiary education system and restoring teachers to..you know..just teach not brainwash their pupils to their ideological beliefs

 

[Slippery Pete]

Mutineer is absolutely on fire in this thread.

Even got a like from ADL97jabs!

 

[fortunatecrow]

Just when you thought it couldn't possibly get any worse for this incompetent ALP mob...

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Very pleased to see this. What exactly is it that the employer did wrong (was it the re-admittance to Parliament House?), and how is the compensation that high? She was working again not long after, so it clearly didn't impact her ability to earn a living.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Instead of attacking the journo he should be outlining to the Australian people, very clearly, how his government plans to stop this disaster from ever happening again.

We already know modern leftism is a mental disorder, but this fetish they all have for importing and then tiptoeing around foreign criminals really is a sickness.

 

[fortunatecrow]

The money needs to be spent where it will make a difference.

Not just in health, but aboriginal welfare; and as we now see, education too.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Campbell Newman appears to be the example you are trying to make.

But you can't seriously be blaming voters. The LNP in Victoria needs to have a look at itself and ask why it keeps putting forward unelectable politicians.

The LNP in queensland has been a 1 term government both times its been voted in in the last 30 or so years..

Because, like the Victorian Liberals, its pretty much unelectable.

The Queensland LNP is infested with god bothering lunatics.. people so unbelievably out of touch with our modern progressive societies they really need to be loaded into a cannon and fired all the way back to the 1950’s..

Every 4-5 elections Labor gets on the nose in QLD and the QLD voters hold their noses and vote LNP.. just to get rid of Labor..

There is then 3 (now will be 4) years of complete and utter chaos under the LNP before the electorate then vote them and and Labor back in at the very next election.

Seriously.. these QLD LNP lunatics put anti-abortion signs up at polling booths in the suburban electorates throughout Brisbane and then wonder why no one votes for them!

 

[Cap]

The LNP in queensland has been a 1 term government both times its been voted in in the last 30 or so years..

Because, like the Victorian Liberals, its pretty much unelectable.

The Queensland LNP is infested with god bothering lunatics.. people so unbelievably out of touch with our modern progressive societies they really need to be loaded into a cannon and fired all the way back to the 1950’s..

Every 4-5 elections Labor gets on the nose in QLD and the QLD voters hold their noses and vote LNP.. just to get rid of Labor..

There is then 3 (now will be 4) years of complete and utter chaos under the LNP before the electorate then vote them and and Labor back in at the very next election.

Seriously.. these QLD LNP lunatics put anti-abortion signs up at polling booths in the suburban electorates throughout Brisbane and then wonder why no one votes for them!

Unfortunately for SA we seem to be in the same boat.

No viable opposition doesn't make for good governance. Not sure how they address it though.

 

[The Perfect Stranger]

The LNP in queensland has been a 1 term government both times its been voted in in the last 30 or so years..

Because, like the Victorian Liberals, its pretty much unelectable.

The Queensland LNP is infested with god bothering lunatics.. people so unbelievably out of touch with our modern progressive societies they really need to be loaded into a cannon and fired all the way back to the 1950’s..

Every 4-5 elections Labor gets on the nose in QLD and the QLD voters hold their noses and vote LNP.. just to get rid of Labor..

There is then 3 (now will be 4) years of complete and utter chaos under the LNP before the electorate then vote them and and Labor back in at the very next election.

Seriously.. these QLD LNP lunatics put anti-abortion signs up at polling booths in the suburban electorates throughout Brisbane and then wonder why no one votes for them!

"progressive" -lol. The most misused word in the limited vocabulary of the Leftist.

Let me guess, Palestinians (Hamas) are "progressive"?

 

[The Perfect Stranger]

Instead of attacking the journo he should be outlining to the Australian people, very clearly, how his government plans to stop this disaster from ever happening again.

We already know modern leftism is a mental disorder, but this fetish they all have for importing and then tiptoeing around foreign criminals really is a sickness.

The great lie of the liberal, inner city feminist snob is that they give a damn about the welfare of lower- and middle-class working-class women.