Brian Lake thinks that Cyril is cream on the cake player, not the cake?

[Jhye Clark 13]

Cyril averages the same amount of goals as Motlop and Motlop plays through the midfield a lot more.

 

[MinerBoy]

Betts plays in the forward pocket. Rioli plays on the wing.

Haha. You are rolled gold. Never change.

 

[beta_condition]

Cyril averages the same amount of goals as Motlop and Motlop plays through the midfield a lot more.

Actually Cyril averages more goals, Motlop does averages 3 more touches but he's far less damaging than Cyril with ball in hand not only that Cyril doubles Motlops tackle numbers. Since Motlop is only 1 year younger I'm not sure what point youre trying to make?

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Actually Cyril averages more goals, Motlop does averages 3 more touches but he's far less damaging than Cyril with ball in hand not only that Cyril doubles Motlops tackle numbers. Since Motlop is only 1 year younger I'm not sure what point youre trying to make?

Motlop's the better player. .1 difference is hardly telling for somebody who plays predominantly forward like Cyril.

 

[beta_condition]

Motlop's the better player. .1 difference is hardly telling for somebody who plays predominantly forward like Cyril.

You should get into stand up comedy.


Cyril averages twice the number of clearances and tackles, triple the amount of 1%, 1/3 more goal assists, more contested possessions, more marks(4 times the contested marks) and better kicking efficiency.

 

[Kwality]

This is a guy that played in 3 premierships with Cyril and knows him intimately.

He has questioned whether Cyril can be a successful player when the team is not doing well.

He needs everything else in the team do be going well, for him to be playing well.

In light of this, has Cyrils legacy now taken a dent?

Is he just a flat track bully?

Not a flat track bully, more a downhill skier is Lakeys suggestion.

Its pretty hard to be influential on the scoreboard when your team is not winning.

 

[ashep]

Still can't believe he bombed that goal directly from his a-hole to pip us last year.

He's obviously benefitted from sublime supply the last few years but he knows what to do when he gets his hands on the pill.

 

[Randomizor]

Still can't believe he bombed that goal directly from his a-hole to pip us last year.

He's obviously benefitted from sublime supply the last few years but he knows what to do when he gets his hands on the pill.

Directly? Impressive

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

You should get into stand up comedy.


Cyril averages twice the number of clearances and tackles, triple the amount of 1%, 1/3 more goal assists, more contested possessions, more marks(4 times the contested marks) and better kicking efficiency.

So we've established Cyril Is better at guarding space and Motlop is better at finding the ball and being a weapon on the output side of things.

Depends what you consider as being more important but I know who'd I'd rather.

A small forward who can tackle or a midfielder who gets more of the ball and kicks just as many goals.

 

[iameviljez]

Motlop's the better player. .1 difference is hardly telling for somebody who plays predominantly forward like Cyril.

Mots needs to get a lot better at running both ways, and have more impact in big games, before I'd say he was better than Rioli - and I'm a Geelong fan...

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Mots needs to get a lot better at running both ways, and have more impact in big games, before I'd say he was better than Rioli - and I'm a Geelong fan...

We're all entitled to our opinions.

Mine is that Rioli is now the most overrated player in my time watching football, surpassing Swan ... his Norm Smith medal is testament to that as is his multiple AA's.

 

[JVseven]

Only a Geelong supporter could turn this thread into being about their players.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Only a Geelong supporter could turn this thread into being about their players.

Back on the topic at hand ... Lake is right.

 

[JVseven]

Back on the topic at hand ... Lake is right.

Much better.

 

[threesixpio]

He is a small forward, bloody hard to play that position when your team is getting absolutely flogged week in week out.

He won them several games last year off his own boot, he is a star and the best in his position outside Betts.

Last year was his best year and we were already s**t last year. He and Puopolo had outstanding years where we were not winning the footy enough and had f all talls. Our smalls did crazy heavy lifting and somehow got us into the top 4.

Anyone who watched Cyril last year and thinks he's a flat track bully is a dumbo (sorry Lakey - love you - but you are indisputedly a dumbo)

 

[threesixpio]

Still can't believe he bombed that goal directly from his a-hole to pip us last year.

He's obviously benefitted from sublime supply the last few years but he knows what to do when he gets his hands on the pill.

He he

 

[blaisee]

Last year was his best year and we were already s**t last year. He and Puopolo had outstanding years where we were not winning the footy enough and had f all talls. Our smalls did crazy heavy lifting and somehow got us into the top 4.

Anyone who watched Cyril last year and thinks he's a flat track bully is a dumbo (sorry Lakey - love you - but you are indisputedly a dumbo)

I don't think hawthorn was crap last year

1 kick outside of a preliminary final is not crap .

No need to re invent history to suit your argument.

 

[Jtree]

And Brian Lake is spot on for once.

Someone needed to say it. It was funny seeing Robbo's shock at the comment. I wish Derm was there.

Cyril's a great player, but he is not the demigod the AFL media want us to believe.

Yeah he's just a 4x premiership player and norm smith medallist... Pretty mediocre if you ask me!

 

[threesixpio]

I don't think hawthorn was crap last year

1 kick outside of a preliminary final is not crap .

No need to re invent history to suit your argument.

Not reinventing history. All year I was saying our smalls are keeping us in it - because that's exactly what happened.

 

[threesixpio]

I suppose what I'm saying is Cyril has not been the cake - except for last year where he had to be. So I have every confidence he can be the cake

 

[Hobbes]

I don't think hawthorn was crap last year

1 kick outside of a preliminary final is not crap .

No need to re invent history to suit your argument.

They were very lucky to have 6 matches fall their way by less than 10 points. They were about 6 kicks away from 9th.

 

[threesixpio]

Part of the cake - not "the cake"

 

[threesixpio]

They were very lucky to have 6 matches fall their way by less than 10 points. They were about 6 kicks away from 9th.

It was crazy acts by your Riolis, Puopolo and Sicilies that got us over the line. My love for Cyril last year was bigger than Bruce's

 

[hutchy31]

Motlop's the better player. .1 difference is hardly telling for somebody who plays predominantly forward like Cyril.

Jesus. *******. Christ.

Enough already BF, this is getting ridiculous.

 

[Bokonon_]

He is a small forward, bloody hard to play that position when your team is getting absolutely flogged week in week out.

He won them several games last year off his own boot, he is a star and the best in his position outside Betts.

He does spend time in the midfield as well, in a side struggling to deliver the ball forward that might increase?