Traded Callum Coleman-Jones [Traded to North Melbourne with 42, 47 and a future 4th for Tarrant, 40 and a future 2nd]

[tugga]

Agree, but if the tables were turned, I wouldn't begrudge Richmond sending a player to the PSD without a favorable deal.

Despite what many of my fellow supporters think, the psd is there to help the bottom clubs get us contracted players without giving up anything in return.
Wouldn’t have begrudged north for doing it at all.
it is what it’s there for after all.

 

[Morro]

A 5 year deal is too long for just depth, your list management team must see him as a medium-long term Key Forward or (more likely) Ruck.

5 year deals for 22 year olds are for players you are building a club around

 

[Orange Agent]

Will he actually get a much of a game at North?

Surely he is behind Comben, and possibly Edwards by the end of the next year. Or are we revisiting Dean Laidley's highly successful 'land of the giants' forward line?

He'd play fwd surely, maybe 5mins a qtr in the ruck. Reckon its a good fit with Larkey, Zurhaar and co. and the age group means they will be hitting prime age all at the same time.

 

[Psicosis]

5 year deals for 22 year olds are for players you are building a club around

Or for players that you are convincing to walk from their club for peanuts

 

[Morro]

Or for players that you are convincing to walk from their club for peanuts

Haha no

 

[daird]

Given the clubs support during kebab-gate and keeping him on the list/backing him in, I have no doubt Callum would remain open-minded about a trade to the Gold Coast if something fair isn't struck with North. Highly doubt he'd walk to the PSD.

 

[DocSholl]

Jeepers you guys must rate the hell out of him.

Pick 38 for a bloke you see as the future.

Interesting.

You know very well that linking what a team is prepared to offer in a trade to what they are offering the player in a contract is lazy

 

[Morro]

You know very well that linking what a team is prepared to offer in a trade to what they are offering the player in a contract is lazy

Well the contract offer is a reflection of their worth is it not?

 

[HumanMeatball]

Yeah it’s going to be pick 20. Lost no value since drafted so about spot on.

 

[DocSholl]

Well the contract offer is a reflection for their worth is it not?

Not in terms of a trade, no.

I would expect 38 and maybe a swap of 2022 picks would get it done.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Given the clubs support during kebab-gate and keeping him on the list/backing him in, I have no doubt Callum would remain open-minded about a trade to the Gold Coast if something fair isn't struck with North. Highly doubt he'd walk to the PSD.

As an observer it feels like the psd is a thing again. For some reason it feels like the bottom clubs are more comfortable to use it. Only a small sample but I was surprised at the lack of outcry from the industry over Hately.

 

[Morro]

Not in terms of a trade, no.

Haha righto

Offer a 5 year contract to a bloke you don’t think is worth much in a trade.

Righto champ

 

[tiger_tough]

5 years for CCJ? Surely not?!

Pick 38? Lol. They obviously rate him very highly. He'd be silly not to take them up on that offer.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Haha righto

Offer a 5 year contract to a bloke you don’t think is worth much in a trade.

Righto champ

Doesn’t work like that.

 

[DocSholl]

Haha righto

Offer a 5 year contract to a bloke you don’t think is worth much in a trade.

Righto champ

Define "worth" though? Contract status and PSD pick are factors, whether you like it or not.

 

[FreeAgent1]

Yeah it’s going to be pick 20. Lost no value since drafted so about spot on.

All about leverage. PSD threat looms = leverage.

pick 38 is unders but not crazy unders.

Zac Jones got same $$ and contract and was traded for pick 35

 

[Orange Agent]

Well the contract offer is a reflection of their worth is it not?

Jackson Hately. Drafted at pick 14, played 13 games in 2 years, Crows offered pick 40 and gave him a 3 year contract to walk to the PSD.

 

[HumanMeatball]

Doesn’t work like that.

I mean it kinda does though. The players that net the most are the ones who generally sign the big deals. Talls especially hold value

All about leverage. PSD threat looms = leverage.

pick 38 is unders but not crazy unders.

Zac Jones got same $$ and contract and was traded for pick 35

Until I see the pre season draft angle used I see it as a non factor due to how little it’s used. We will see pick 20 will be included somehow with Richmond probably doing a sweeter somewhere if required. Clubs are fairly honest these days

 

[Mjs94]

OK - im no expert on North but Xerri looks ok whenever I watch.

His ceiling is Shane Mumford - a bit of an enforcer who is aggressive. Isn't particularly skillful and hasn't shown any forward nous at AFL level. Whether he can match what Mumford can do as a ruckman remains to be seen

 

[SnowRoo]

5 years for CCJ? Surely not?!

Pick 38? Lol. They obviously rate him very highly. He'd be silly not to take them up on that offer.

Yup silly to say no ...... Almost enough to wait through to the PSD for the guaranteed pick up there.

 

[Kangaroos techno]

Haha righto

Offer a 5 year contract to a bloke you don’t think is worth much in a trade.

Righto champ

If anything it'll definitely weaken CCJ's desire to see Richmond fairly compensated.

He has a million more on the table now.

Rawlings probably rang CCJ and said "are you happy if we use the PSD as a bargaining chip to get you on the cheap?"

And CCJ responded with "* em" and went back to enjoying his Dom Pérignon bubble bath

 

[HumanMeatball]

If anything it'll definitely weaken CCJ's desire to see Richmond fairly compensated.

He has a million more on the table now.

Rawlings probably rang CCJ and said "are you happy if we use the PSD as a bargaining chip to get you on the cheap?"

And CCJ responded with "fu** em" and went back to enjoying his Dom Pérignon bubble bath

Wat

 

[Morro]

Jackson Hately. Drafted at pick 14, played 13 games in 2 years, Crows offered pick 40 and gave him a 3 year contract to walk to the PSD.

Haha yeah but this is 5 freakin years and almost $500k a season.

 

[Morro]

If anything it'll definitely weaken CCJ's desire to see Richmond fairly compensated.

He has a million more on the table now.

Rawlings probably rang CCJ and said "are you happy if we use the PSD as a bargaining chip to get you on the cheap?"

And CCJ responded with "fu** em" and went back to enjoying his Dom Pérignon bubble bath

Certainly makes changing his mind
Impossible haha

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Richmond let better/more established players in Butler and Higgins (etc) go to other clubs for far less than what many Tigers fans are demanding for CCJ.

Not sure why they are trying to play hard ball now tbh

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I'd personally value him about pick 30. Tigers probs going to get shafted per the Hately shenanigans.

5 years seems absolutely ridiculous personally but I imagine North are frontloading the hell out of this deal with how much capspace they'd have.