Can Kennedy break the eagles goal scoring record

[2006_Eagles]

******* GOD

Love this man.

**** the rest of you campaigners.

I apologise, that was harsh.

campaigners

Mad Mondaying mate?

 

[Biggie]

Mad Mondaying mate?

Everyday

 

[2006_Eagles]

I honestly think he already is our best forward and by some margin. Sumich was a good forward, but he was never the best. For two consecutive years now Kennedy has been the best in the league.

Sumich also had the advantage of playing in an almost state team, where as Kennedy, until recently, has played in terrible teams his whole career and if not for injury would likely have won another Coleman.

His pressure, consistency, leadership and impressive goal average post-Carlton give him the points for me.

You couldn't take Sumich over JJK in an Eagles all time team. You just couldn'.

 

[2006_Eagles]

Everyday

 

[Ochre]

If Kennedy doesn't win the Coleman this year I will run naked down St Georges Terrace while pretending to be a Pokemon.

Well, cmon Bud then.

 

[WCE_phil]

You would put sumich at FF and Kennedy at CHF. Finally have a truly first class spine in all positions for our all time best team.

 

[eagles rule]

You couldn't take Sumich over JJK in an Eagles all time team. You just couldn'.

Premierships and Finals goal kicking make the difference .Sumich is big time player .

 

[2006_Eagles]

Premierships and Finals goal kicking make the difference

Yes and no

 

[KamakazeSalami]

You would put sumich at FF and Kennedy at CHF. Finally have a truly first class spine in all positions for our all time best team.

Pfft...and bump Ash Hansen from CHF?? Youmadbro.

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[Keys]

I honestly think he already is our best forward and by some margin. Sumich was a good forward, but he was never the best. For two consecutive years now Kennedy has been the best in the league.

Sumich also had the advantage of playing in an almost state team, where as Kennedy, until recently, has played in terrible teams his whole career and if not for injury would likely have won another Coleman.

His pressure, consistency, leadership and impressive goal average post-Carlton give him the points for me.

Peter Sumich :

1989 - 45.28 (19 games)
1990 - 90.61 (23 games)
1991 - 111.89 (25 games)
1992 - 82.46 (19 games)
1993 - 76.57 (21 games)
1994 - 49.42 (18 games)
1995 - 7.3 (5 games)
1996 - 21.11 (7 games)
1997 - 33.17 (13 games)

Total - 514.354 (150 games/9 seasons)

Josh Kennedy :

2008 - 7.4 (7 games)
2009 - 31.17 (16 games)
2010 - 41.19 (22 games)
2011 - 59.38 (23 games)
2012 - 18.14 (9 games)
2013 - 60.23 (21 games)
2014 - 61.33 (20 games)
2015 - 80.55 (25 games)
2016* - 75.35 (21 games)

Total - 432.238 (164 games/9 seasons)

As I posted earlier, people forget just how good Sumich was especially in that period from 1990-93 before he tailed off thanks to dodgy hammies and an increasingly negative game style adopted by Malthouse. Kennedy has been more consistent (and more accurate) than Sumich without ever quite reaching the same heights.

He's a good chance to reach 80 goals again this year so I'd think Kennedy is shading Sumich now but it's not by as much as some of you young pups might think

 

[avishka5]

looks like NN face swapped with someone else.

 

[2006_Eagles]

looks like NN face swapped with someone else.

It's multiple NBA champion with the San Antonio Spurs Boris Diaw

 

[2006_Eagles]

Pfft...and bump Ash Hansen from CHF?? Youmadbro.

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Ashley Hansen was a saint!

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Peter Sumich :

1989 - 45.28 (19 games)
1990 - 90.61 (23 games)
1991 - 111.89 (25 games)
1992 - 82.46 (19 games)
1993 - 76.57 (21 games)
1994 - 49.42 (18 games)
1995 - 7.3 (5 games)
1996 - 21.11 (7 games)
1997 - 33.17 (13 games)

Total - 514.354 (150 games/9 seasons)

Josh Kennedy :

2008 - 7.4 (7 games)
2009 - 31.17 (16 games)
2010 - 41.19 (22 games)
2011 - 59.38 (23 games)
2012 - 18.14 (9 games)
2013 - 60.23 (21 games)
2014 - 61.33 (20 games)
2015 - 80.55 (25 games)
2016* - 75.35 (21 games)

Total - 432.238 (164 games/9 seasons)

As I posted earlier, people forget just how good Sumich was especially in that period from 1990-93 before he tailed off thanks to dodgy hammies and an increasingly negative game style adopted by Malthouse. Kennedy has been more consistent (and more accurate) than Sumich without ever quite reaching the same heights.

He's a good chance to reach 80 goals again this year so I'd think Kennedy is shading Sumich now but it's not by as much as some of you young pups might think

A straight goal comparison doesn't work in comparing FF's now and from the early 90's. The game has changed so much. Suma never won a coleman and only really got close'ish in 1990 and that's mainly because Lockett, Dunstall and Ablett all missed games.

Did love Sumich though, but think JK is a more rounded player, that might be because of what is expected of FF's now days.

 

[Seadog]

I honestly think he already is our best forward and by some margin. Sumich was a good forward, but he was never the best. For two consecutive years now Kennedy has been the best in the league.

Sumich also had the advantage of playing in an almost state team, where as Kennedy, until recently, has played in terrible teams his whole career and if not for injury would likely have won another Coleman.

His pressure, consistency, leadership and impressive goal average post-Carlton give him the points for me.

Suma has one of the best records in finals of all time. Never let us down when it counted.[/QUOTE]

 

[matt_bas]

If Kennedy doesn't win the Coleman this year I will run naked down St Georges Terrace while pretending to be a Pokemon.

Does no one on this board learn...

 

[jeffsy]

Ive got no doubt Kennedy in the early 90's would have had multiple 100+ seasons

 

[fidstar]

Suma is my all time fav Eagle, but Kennedy is so much better. Kennedy has already over taken him as a footballer.

The goal kicking comparison done a few posts back doesn't mean much with the way the game is played.

Stats are hard to compare between eras. For instance Gary Ablett junior has had more career tackles than Tony Liberatore.

 

[Smeg Head]

Love JK.

People underrating the majesty of Suma though. Didn't he hold (or still does) the most goals by a left footer?

 

[Godfather32]

Suma has one of the best records in finals of all time. Never let us down when it counted.

Sumich also had some classy midfielders delivering him the ball in those finals though instead of the bullshit rainbow kicks our mids dish up to JK half the time

 

[Keys]

Love JK.

People underrating the majesty of Suma though. Didn't he hold (or still does) the most goals by a left footer?

First left footer to kick 100 goals in a season

Buddy has gone past him for goals by a left footer now as did Lloyd

 

[Godfather32]

First left footer to kick 100 goals in a season

Buddy has gone past him for goals by a left footer now as did Lloyd

I remember seeing him kick a couple from outside 50 on the right boot, guy was a gun

 

[Matera LeNui]

A straight goal comparison doesn't work in comparing FF's now and from the early 90's. The game has changed so much. Suma never won a coleman and only really got close'ish in 1990 and that's mainly because Lockett, Dunstall and Ablett all missed games.

Did love Sumich though, but think JK is a more rounded player, that might be because of what is expected of FF's now days.

Thanks for the stats. I was a kid watching Sumich so I'm one of the young pups Sumich more dominant but Kennedy more skilled, thoughts?

 

[TheGhostOfJohnBelushi]

Sumich was also of an era where positional play was still intact. So he had more space to lead into and work with. Was a gun in his prime, but it was a short window. By late 1993 he was a shell of his former self.

Kennedy has been better for longer. Definitely has to work harder in regard to moving up the ground, chasing and tackling. Kennedy is easily our best full forward ever. He's just been doing it for a more consistent period than Sumich. I'd also say Kennedy is a far more accurate than Sumich was. It's not often that Kennedy has an average day at the office. He's also a better mark. Sumich took some beauties in his big year of 1991 but he mainly enjoyed them lace out on his chest, whereas Kennedy often has to stretch more in contests. Sumich probably only beats Kennedy with freak goals. That boy could pull some pearlers out.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Sumich was also of an era where positional play was still intact. So he had more space to lead into and work with. Was a gun in his prime, but it was a short window. By late 1993 he was a shell of his former self.

Kennedy has been better for longer. Definitely has to work harder in regard to moving up the ground, chasing and tackling. Kennedy is easily our best full forward ever. He's just been doing it for a more consistent period than Sumich. I'd also say Kennedy is a far more accurate than Sumich was. It's not often that Kennedy has an average day at the office. He's also a better mark. Sumich took some beauties in his big year of 1991 but he mainly enjoyed them lace out on his chest, whereas Kennedy often has to stretch more in contests. Sumich probably only beats Kennedy with freak goals. That boy could pull some pearlers out.

For some reason never trusted him fully as a kick. Not sure if that was because he was a lefty or not...