Carlton or GWS in 2024?
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You've run out of pills again lol.
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I'm fully on board that when other sides win close games it is luck too. With a very occasional exception, a win by a goal or less (a one score game) could have gone either way. It's why percentage is more predictive of the next year's results than W/L. Having said that, I only see three games in the regular season within that margin and Carlton went 2-0-1 in them. By comparison GWS had five and went 4-1 in them.
When you get to the <= 2 goal margins it changes up (Carlton gets two extra wins, GWS gets three extra losses and only one win) but that's no longer a one score game.
You guys did get to play us twice though? The second one just happened to end your season.
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Two mediocre teams.
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Exactly right which is why those pre season fixture difficulty rankings are inaccurate - because of the movement of teams on the ladder year to year. The stat above is more accurate because it is based on what actually ended up happening in season
But even looking at the ladder positions at the end of the season doesn't show the full picture.
Is playing Port Adelaide in Melbourne with 7 changes from the previous week the same as playing them in Adelaide at the height of their 13 game winning streak?
Is playing Collingwood without Moore, De Goey and N. Daicos in round 23 after they've locked away top 2 the same as playing them with a full strength team mid season when they are going full throttle to lock away top 4 as early as possible?
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I agree with this - nothing is ever going to fully take into account context within each game. But I still think it is a better measure than the pre-season ones that come out.
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We showed up when it really mattered.You had a 5 goal head start and then got absolutely trounced, back to the drawing board or this will be the peak
Your mob will lose comfortably on Saturday and tbh u gys shouldve really lost to Melbourne in the Qualifying final
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I feel like GWS will always be up there for a while but never quite get the job done. Not enough truly team first spirit and culture there yet, still perhaps a team of champions as opposed to a champion team.
Carlton, who knows based on 21st century history, but I feel we're no longer that same old team. Just need to improve some weak spots of the list over the off season.
Carlton, who knows based on 21st century history, but I feel we're no longer that same old team. Just need to improve some weak spots of the list over the off season.
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It's an interesting comparison.
They were very closely matched in the 2nd half the year. This is the ladder for the 2nd half of the year.
The two best defences. The 2nd and 3rd best offences. Even all of our wins and losses were against similarly placed sides.
They were very closely matched in the 2nd half the year. This is the ladder for the 2nd half of the year.
The two best defences. The 2nd and 3rd best offences. Even all of our wins and losses were against similarly placed sides.
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At what point have Collingwood not shown up ?
You won in the last minute against Melbourne
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regards to tony shaw
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The fact we're in the GF, and you're not, is evidence of who showed up when it really mattered son
Man you are clutching,
Well hop into the grand final thread, should be fun.The fact we're in the GF, and you're not, is evidence of who showed up when it really mattered son
Yes, I don't know about you, but I'd much rather have won those meaningless late season games against Carlton and Hawthorn, to finish 3 games and percentage ahead of second place (instead of just the one game and percentage), risking injured players and therefore our preparation for the finals series...The fact we're in the GF, and you're not, is evidence of who showed up when it really mattered son
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"When it really mattered" lol, only a Carlton supporter could come up with something like that
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I've heard the below a few times this week, I think it's a solid point...
Pies and Lions, PF losers last year, traded aggressively to address specific needs...here we are.
I hope very much we are similarly prepared to make a few hard calls if the opportunity presents itself.
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