Carlton Team of the 21st Century

[curnow inferno]

It's closer than you think...

Cripps vs Judd (at Carlton)

Games: 159 vs 145
Seasons as captain: 4 vs 5
All Australians: 4 vs 4
Brownlows: 1 vs 1
Brownlow Votes: 119 vs 116
Leigh Matthews Award: 1 vs 1
B&Fs: 4 vs 3
Finals series: 0 vs 4

Cripps has an extra B&F, although Judd won his in stronger teams. Everything else is basically square.

Cripps will easily cover Judd's Carlton career. But right now they're basically inseparable...

Exactly. I think ill wait for crippa to lead us into at least one finals series before making this inevitable change.

You can f..k Liam Jones right off, Jamison at FB ahead of him.

I am just as peeved with him as you are mate but if we keep it strictly on field jones has him covered.

 

[ferrisb]

Strictly on field jones has Jamo covered.

Jones's peak was arguably higher, but Jamo was a top-flight FB for much much longer.

 

[Pinnell]

It's closer than you think...

Cripps vs Judd (at Carlton)

Games: 159 vs 145
Seasons as captain: 4 vs 5
All Australians: 4 vs 4
Brownlows: 1 vs 1
Brownlow Votes: 119 vs 116
Leigh Matthews Award: 1 vs 1
B&Fs: 4 vs 3
Finals series: 0 vs 4

Cripps has an extra B&F, although Judd won his in stronger teams. Everything else is basically square.

Cripps will easily cover Judd's Carlton career. But right now they're basically inseparable...

I see your stats . But Cripps is a better leader of his men than Judd. IMO.

 

[katmanblue]

Jones's peak was arguably higher, but Jamo was a top-flight FB for much much longer.

Dodgy shoulders cruelled his career.

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[ferrisb]

Dodgy shoulders cruelled Jamo's career.

Grossly underrated player.

I reckon Jamo was ~ the 3rd-4th best FB in the comp for at least a few years.

Played a lone hand in an undersized (and under-talented) backline for many years, keeping many star FFs quiet... FFS.

Was pretty much a pure stopper. Not a lot of rebound and flair from him, which is why he didn't get much attention or many accolades.

Added a bit of run later in his career, but injuries cut his career well short.

Still only 36yo. Wish we'd seen his healthy his whole career.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

I am just as peeved with him as you are mate but if we keep it strictly on field jones has him covered.

Debatable IMO....

Jamo was hardly ever 40-50 metres off his opponent or destroying our momentum with multiple telegraphed cross goal turnover kicks.

 

[curnow inferno]

Debatable IMO....

Jamo was hardly ever 40-50 metres off his opponent or destroying our momentum with multiple telegraphed cross goal turnover kicks.

No doubt a valid point.

But also lots of strengths jones had that jamo was hardly ever doing either the other way

 

[Cringle]

Jamo would have played on the premier forwards more than Jones IIRC

Once Weitering got a couple seasons under him he would have taken the main KPF.

Not sure on the stats but I’d hazard a guess Jamo conceded less goals.

 

[Thrawn]

Jones's peak was arguably higher, but Jamo was a top-flight FB for much much longer.

Bret Thornton stiff to miss out.

 

[AvantGardener]

I've tried something a little different. Had to debut since 2000.

Saad Jamison Scotland
Gibbs* Weits* Doc*

Simpson* Judd* Walsh*
Kruezer* Cripps* Murphy*

Houlihan McKay* Walker*
Betts* Curnow* Waite

* denotes position in the side not up for debate

 

[Cringle]

I wonder where Cripps stands currently in Carlton players of all time.

Top 10?

 

[tarczonandjane]

I wonder where Cripps stands currently in Carlton players of all time.

Top 10?

Michael Jezz posted on this issue a couple of months ago, and couldn’t fit him in.

Personally, I think it’s hard to fit him in without team glory (similarly, I wouldn’t have Judd in there). Though I know others will disagree, and I am aware you are talking about individuals (rather than the team).

 

[thylacine60]

Bret Thornton stiff to miss out.

No doubt he pointed that out. And no, I don't rhyme all the time.

 

[Azzurro]

I've tried something a little different. Had to debut since 2000.

Saad Jamison Scotland
Gibbs* Weits* Doc*

Simpson* Judd* Walsh*
Kruezer* Cripps* Murphy*

Houlihan McKay* Walker*
Betts* Curnow* Waite

* denotes position in the side not up for debate

Respect the effort and approach. Highlights the challenges with the measure of "best body of work since 2000, minimum xx games". Players on the cusp don't really get a chance in either team of the century - not enough work either side of the millennium.

 

[The Return of the Paf]

I see you're not using the Gregorian Calendar.

Shut up, Pafloyul, who asked you?!

 

[BlueGum]

Voss the coach

 

[curnow inferno]

Voss the coach

Doesn't fit the minimum games criteria

But lock it in for next year!

 

[thebluenewdeal]

So I’ve taken into account our top five bnf finishes in our best seasons to help with this list.

Newman Weitering Scotland
McKay Koutoufides Simpson

Camporeale Cripps Murphy
Kruezer Walsh Judd

Lappin McKay Walker
Betts Curnow Carrazzo

Gibbs Ratten E. Curnow Docherty

 

[HarryFlashman]

So I’ve taken into account our top five bnf finishes in our best seasons to help with this list.

Newman Weitering Scotland
McKay Koutoufides Simpson

Camporeale Cripps Murphy
Kruezer Walsh Judd

Lappin McKay Walker
Betts Curnow Carrazzo

Gibbs Ratten E. Curnow Docherty

No Fev - no list, try again

 

[Gointocarlton]

My best team of players who played from 2000 onwards:
FB A McKay SOS Doc
HB Yarran Weiters Scottland
C Camporeale Cripps Bradley
HF Lappin C Curnow Waite
FF Betts Fevola Martin
Foll Kreuzer Judd Koutoufides
Int Saad Ratten Murphy De Koning
Emerg Gibbs Houlihan Simpson

 

[thebluenewdeal]

No Fev - no list, try again

Oh my…

 

[gbatman]

B: Scotland Silvagni Weitering
HB: Saad Koutoufides McKay
C: Camporeale Cripps Walsh
HF: Lappin Whitnall Walker
F: Betts Fevola Curnow
OB: Kreuzer Judd Murphy
IC: Simpson Ratten Bradley Docherty
Sub: Gibbs
EM: Cerra Allen Jamieson Acres Touhy

Haven't taken games played into consideration.

 

[thylacine60]

fair bench........