Injury Cats lose Brown & Schroder

[manboob]

Not this shit again.

 

[FredLeDeux]

If, as seems likely, the MC aren't going to play Shroder, the injury won't hurt him either. On his resume "constant injuries but now OK" looks better than "Liston Trophy Permanent 2nds Player Kiss of Death couldn't get a game".

 

[Vdubs]

It almost doesn't matter though. Even if they are fit it doesn't look like either are going to be selected in a hurry.

Unfair to say that without truly knowing if they were being held back from training and performing because of these issues.
Brown in particular, marking has to be a major part of his game, and the ability to go overhead with confidence and without pain has no doubt been compromised. You have been positive about MB all year, and us supporters do not know all the details of what keeps players off their best. At least we have answers. I really hope Brown still has time to recapture his preseason form.
Schroder, I have no idea.

 

[Topper Harley]

Given Stringer was picked I'd say Schroder would have come in if he was fit, so terrible timing for him.

 

[JUBJUB]

Probably. Varcoe should've been traded long ago. Loses value with every season. Should've gone instead of Chapman.

Oh crap catman_71 has risen from the dead

 

[JUBJUB]

Given Stringer was picked I'd say Schroder would have come in if he was fit, so terrible timing for him.

Maybe not,Stringer had a better VFL game last week

 

[thegerman]

Wouldn't surprise me if Brown retired after this season.

Well there was absolutely no interest at the trade table. We'd be pretty stupid to hang onto him I'd think, would be really poor list
management. That is if he is out of contract.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Hurts both of these guys because if they arent playing seniors in the latter half of the year they wont get new contracts

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Wouldn't surprise me if Brown retired after this season.

Brown wont retire he will try and see if he can get a gig at another club.

 

[Jagshemash]

Interestingly, Brown has been named in the VFL. Surely an error.

 

[winty]

You will never hear the media talk about our injury list like they do the Poo and Wees. ******s

The difference between our injury list and theirs is that they may have several top players injured, but their replacements are fit to come in and replace them. We actually have some top players injured, but more often than not, their understudies are injured as well.

 

[Partridge]

Why would he retire ?
He'd probably want a trade.
As for this current injury it sounds very minor and I'm guessing they've decided to do it now as there's no VFL next week,so it gives him 2 weeks recovery.

Well it raises yet another perplexing issue - if his cards were stamped why would the club bother with surgery? They'd just leave it to the end of the year then it's someone else's problem.

Who knows.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Well it raises yet another perplexing issue - if his cards were stamped why would the club bother with surgery? They'd just leave it to the end of the year then it's someone else's problem.

Who knows.

It would disappoint me if that was ever the club's attitude.
In any event, even if his "cards are stamped" that can only be a provisional decision at this stage.
What if Walker, Kersten, Vardy have setbacks?

 

[Partridge]

It would disappoint me if that was ever the club's attitude.
In any event, even if his "cards are stamped" that can only be a provisional decision at this stage.
What if Walker, Kersten, Vardy have setbacks?

I'm starting to think with the last 2 anyway, they don't consider that as a possibility.

 

[David the Cat]

Maybe, but I'm not sure they can afford to lose either. Schroder is our next best midfielder comfortably (and should have been playing now), and Brown is our next best key forward. Plus a tall option in defence as well. The stocks are scarily thing after him and Walker for guys who are ready for senior footy right now.

If this is so, then your recent post that we don't have much depth is spot on.

 

[David the Cat]

Wouldn't surprise me if Brown retired after this season.

I'd be amazed.

 

[Play it Sam]

I'd be amazed.

The poor b******s - injured for five minutes and we've got them signed sealed and delivered.
Too much has gone in, I hope they both do a Lazarus.

 

[Vdubs]

I'd be amazed.

Me too.
I'm thinking he'll be with us next year. Hoping > thinking. But there is something there and CS has admitted as much.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Hurts both of these guys because if they arent playing seniors in the latter half of the year they wont get new contracts

A back-up key defender still has to emerge, before we should be too quick to get rid of Brown, in my opinion, especially when you consider the coverage that he can provide for the team in other areas. Hamling has shown a bit of promise this year, but the fact is he's older now than Brown was when he made his debut and he really needs to start being a realistic option for the senior team. Walker is probably on level pegging with Brown as far as preferred options as the second tall forward go (though Walker does have the advantage of being promoted from the rookie list at the end of 2013), but he hasn't displayed the ability to go back like Brown has. Vardy and Kersten as the forward line of the future (through no fault of their own) have shown us nothing this year and Vardy is getting to the stage where you'd be making a huge risk to put all your eggs in that basket. Toohey and Kolodjashnij...who knows? What I do know is that if none of those players get a game in defence in the AFL side in 2014, with Enright, Taylor, Rivers, Mackie and Lonergan as staples in our back six, I'd be making an offer to Brown as a required player.

Hopefully we get enough wins over the next 4-6 weeks to be able to rotate veterans out of the side and 1-2 tall defenders that can carry us forward will emerge. Because 2-3 of the 'old reliables' will probably be gone by the end of next year and it's unclear what we're going to do when they finish up.

Schroder is terribly stiff and I really think his form warranted him getting a crack in the side earlier. Despite his outstanding output so far this year, I think he's in more trouble than Brown. Simply because Schroder 'types' are always in pretty plentiful supply. Hopefully he gets those 4-6 games at some point this year to make a serious claim for another contract.

 

[Partridge]

A back-up key defender still has to emerge, before we should be too quick to get rid of Brown, in my opinion, especially when you consider the coverage that he can provide for the team in other areas. Hamling has shown a bit of promise this year, but the fact is he's older now than Brown was when he made his debut and he really needs to start being a realistic option for the senior team. Walker is probably on level pegging with Brown as far as preferred options as the second tall forward go (though Walker does have the advantage of being promoted from the rookie list at the end of 2013), but he hasn't displayed the ability to go back like Brown has. Vardy and Kersten as the forward line of the future (through no fault of their own) have shown us nothing this year and Vardy is getting to the stage where you'd be making a huge risk to put all your eggs in that basket. Toohey and Kolodjashnij...who knows? What I do know is that if none of those players get a game in defence in the AFL side in 2014, with Enright, Taylor, Rivers, Mackie and Lonergan as staples in our back six, I'd be making an offer to Brown as a required player.

That's what scares me when people gleefully write Brown off and presume Vardy and Kersten are the solutions to all our woes. Have a look at our list - who our tall defenders and tall forwards are, and then look at either a) their age, or b) the amount of games they've played. It's really thin behind Hawkins up forward and Lonergan, Taylor and Rivers in defence.

Lonergan is 30, Rivers turns 30 as soon as the season finishes, and Taylor is almost 28. Mackie will be 30 before the season is over. At the other end McIntosh will turn 30 during the finals. We really need another Walker and another Brown - guys in their early 20s who have been at the club a few years, and have shown something at one end or another in the seniors (or in Brown's case both).

 

[CatTricks]

That's what scares me when people gleefully write Brown off and presume Vardy and Kersten are the solutions to all our woes. Have a look at our list - who our tall defenders and tall forwards are, and then look at either a) their age, or b) the amount of games they've played. It's really thin behind Hawkins up forward and Lonergan, Taylor and Rivers in defence.

Lonergan is 30, Rivers turns 30 as soon as the season finishes, and Taylor is almost 28. Mackie will be 30 before the season is over. At the other end McIntosh will turn 30 during the finals. We really need another Walker and another Brown - guys in their early 20s who have been at the club a few years, and have shown something at one end or another in the seniors (or in Brown's case both).

I agree with everything you have said.
I really think Hamling will make it, and it is too soon to know about JK and the rookies.
Luckily, this draft is chock full of tall talent (apparently).
We could also do a lot worse than plucking a 23-24 year old KPP or 2 from a state league as insurance.

 

[Partridge]

I agree with everything you have said.
I really think Hamling will make it, and it is too soon to know about JK and the rookies.
Luckily, this draft is chock full of tall talent (apparently).
We could also do a lot worse than plucking a 23-24 year old KPP or 2 from a state league as insurance.

If the club aren't careful, Hamling could become Brown mark II very easily.

He was drafted in 2011, so he's now in his 3rd year. He hasn't debuted yet, and doesn't look anywhere near senior footy until he puts on some more size. I wonder how the general opinion of him will alter if he still hasn't debuted by 2015 and is still 83kg wringing wet holding a brick.

Not saying he won't make it, but the preferred backup to a lot of people seems to revolve around Vardy (21 games and now a dodgy knee to go with his hip), Kersten (0 games) and Hamling (0 games). Hope everyone is crossing their fingers.

 

[Pivo]

I agree with everything you have said.
I really think Hamling will make it, and it is too soon to know about JK and the rookies.
Luckily, this draft is chock full of tall talent (apparently).
We could also do a lot worse than plucking a 23-24 year old KPP or 2 from a state league as insurance.

Dean Towers and Tim Membrey are wasting away on Sydney's list.

Likewise Kristian Jaksch at GWS.

There was an article on them today in the Hun.

 

[Jagshemash]

I agree with everything you have said.
I really think Hamling will make it, and it is too soon to know about JK and the rookies.
Luckily, this draft is chock full of tall talent (apparently).
We could also do a lot worse than plucking a 23-24 year old KPP or 2 from a state league as insurance.

I've been an advocate for Matt Sully for a long time now, for this reason. His kicking isn't that bad. Mature body. Could step in and play a role.

There must be a serious reason as to why he hasn't been taken, given he's been under our nose the whole time.

 

[Zouz Kitty]

Turn that frown upside down Grumblebum >>>>>>

JUBJUB you are such a tonic I hope you always remain such good fun + I love all the pix you post You deserve a because you always make me smile + LOL
I'd like to see Cowan play, another one on the long term injury list. Selwood used to absolutely gush about him being a fantastic player. Any news on his likely AFL debut?