Unofficial Preview Changes round 14 vs Adelaide

[maddog37]

I would like to see Buss in and Lobb as forward/ruck full time.

On form I would keep Buku in as well.

 

[Foxman98]

I would like to see Buss in and Lobb as forward/ruck full time.

On form I would keep Buku in as well.

You can’t play all of Coff Buss Buku and JoD

 

[doggiesin08]

You can’t play all of Coff Buss Buku and JoD

Most weeks I’d agree but assuming Walker doesn’t challenge his suspension they’ll still have Thilthorpe (201cm), Murray (200cm) and Fogarty (192cm) plus Dawson pushing forward. I think it could work but does limit some flexibility.

 

[bigbulldog67]

I dunno if im watching a different player than some on Treloar. Forget he’s an AA Adam treloar

1

Adam Treloar

Age

33

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.2

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

15.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

30.3

5star

K

16.3

5star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.3

4star

CL

5.8

5star

D

18.0

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

6.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.6

4star

for a minute and just evaluate him on face value… I hate to be this harsh but he’s probably the biggest liability running around in the afl. Hes using the ball well but he’s waltzing around in a nothing role, we’re talking 16 PAs and 2 tackles in 3 weeks. Hes a straight up liability

I absolutely love the guy and I was all for giving him another year even if he didn’t play a game, but we can’t carry this. If he can prove at VFL level he can hit full speed and run back & forward consistently I’ll be the first to call for him in. We’re not a ****ing retirement home though, there’s no waiting until he gets up to speed at AFL level which likely isn’t going to happen. We have a lot on the line and this is a professional sport ffs either you’re good enough or you’re not and he’s just not right now

Of course he wants to play and of course he thinks he can play, we’ve put better players out to pasture over the years. Make a decision, look at the margins we’re playing with right now and ask yourself whether it’s okay to carry a single player whose not at the level?

 

[Doggies7]

I dunno if im watching a different player than some on Treloar. Forget he’s an AA Adam treloar for a minute and just evaluate him on face value… I hate to be this harsh but he’s probably the biggest liability running around in the afl. Hes using the ball well but he’s waltzing around in a nothing role, we’re talking 16 PAs and 2 tackles in 3 weeks. Hes a straight up liability

I absolutely love the guy and I was all for giving him another year even if he didn’t play a game, but we can’t carry this. If he can prove at VFL level he can hit full speed and run back & forward consistently I’ll be the first to call for him in. We’re not a ****ing retirement home though, there’s no waiting until he gets up to speed at AFL level which likely isn’t going to happen. We have a lot on the line and this is a professional sport ffs either you’re good enough or you’re not and he’s just not right now

Of course he wants to play and of course he thinks he can play, we’ve put better players out to pasture over the years. Make a decision, look at the margins we’re playing with right now and ask yourself whether it’s okay to carry a single player whose not at the level?

Yeah i'm with you on this. Absolutely love Treloar...

IF he were able to play an inside mid role, say if Kennedy was injured, then I think there is still a spot for him. But with Kennedy in, plus Sanders, plus Libba about to return, that is too many inside mids that we would need to start shoving into other positions that don't suit them. Treloar hasn't attended any CBAs the last 3 weeks, at this stage of his career he is an inside mid that is being pushed to half forward / outside mid who can't run or pressure etc to a level we need.

Again, love him and happy to bring him back in if we lose a few inside mids again, but he just doesn't make sense with the current team makeup.

 

[Optimistic Dog]

I think the biggest positional query is whre Rory plays. I am big on him playing forward changing ruck. He does not. clunk to many marks forward ut wr just need that extra tall. Crofty not strong enough at present will be in time.

That allows the rotating forwards this week to be:

Astro, Lobb, Lewis, West, Arty, Cody, Croft

With Crofty sometimes wing when ADZ and resting on ballers are forward.

Ideally Lobb should be back but we do not have that luxury with Sam out.

Buss is knicking on ghe door but seemed very happy with the backline this week so do not see a.change there

Libba for McNeill will add more grunt in the middle.

 

[Foxman98]

Most weeks I’d agree but assuming Walker doesn’t challenge his suspension they’ll still have Thilthorpe (201cm), Murray (200cm) and Fogarty (192cm) plus Dawson pushing forward. I think it could work but does limit some flexibility.

Which ones Buku taking? We saw 2 years ago what Fogarty did to him

He’s got no hope on either 200cm+ bloke

 

[bigbulldog67]

Yeah i'm with you on this. Absolutely love Treloar...

IF he were able to play an inside mid role, say if Kennedy was injured, then I think there is still a spot for him. But with Kennedy in, plus Sanders, plus Libba about to return, that is too many inside mids that we would need to start shoving into other positions that don't suit them. Treloar hasn't attended any CBAs the last 3 weeks, at this stage of his career he is an inside mid that is being pushed to half forward / outside mid who can't run or pressure etc to a level we need.

Again, love him and happy to bring him back in if we lose a few inside mids again, but he just doesn't make sense with the current team makeup.

Yep 100% he’s got a role to play this year, more than happy to bring him in to replace an inside mid if needed and I’m sure he absolutely will play again this year. But no hiding him on the flank for the sake of it please

 

[BallaratBulldog]

A part of me though wants Treloar to reach 100 games for the club. (I think he's now on 89). Would be deserved for his work.

 

[HK_Bulldog]

Not sure Treloar can play inside mid either. He’s had 2 tackles in 3 weeks. His current role as a loose connector floating around is probably the only role he can play. But that can be easily exposed if any team decides to look at it. Hopefully he can get some power back and push to 100.

 

[cleveland]

Needs to improve at vfl level imo

 

[lachy]

I dunno if im watching a different player than some on Treloar. Forget he’s an AA Adam treloar for a minute and just evaluate him on face value… I hate to be this harsh but he’s probably the biggest liability running around in the afl. Hes using the ball well but he’s waltzing around in a nothing role, we’re talking 16 PAs and 2 tackles in 3 weeks. Hes a straight up liability

I absolutely love the guy and I was all for giving him another year even if he didn’t play a game, but we can’t carry this. If he can prove at VFL level he can hit full speed and run back & forward consistently I’ll be the first to call for him in. We’re not a ****ing retirement home though, there’s no waiting until he gets up to speed at AFL level which likely isn’t going to happen. We have a lot on the line and this is a professional sport ffs either you’re good enough or you’re not and he’s just not right now

Of course he wants to play and of course he thinks he can play, we’ve put better players out to pasture over the years. Make a decision, look at the margins we’re playing with right now and ask yourself whether it’s okay to carry a single player whose not at the level?

So I gather you are saying Libba in Trealor out in a wordier way. I agree

 

[Mojorisin]

I was thinking Khamis could potentially go back to playing on a small/medium to squeeze in another tall and allow Budarick to focus more on offence. Taking pressure off of Dale.

 

[JohnnySteel]

I also really want Buss in but Coff & Khamis aren’t getting dropped. Can we afford to add another defender without dropping one of those two? Perhaps if Lobb plays forward / ruck.

 

[The Inbetweener]

I was thinking Khamis could potentially go back to playing on a small/medium to squeeze in another tall and allow Budarick to focus more on offence. Taking pressure off of Dale.

Agree. Also means Buku can focus on intercepting which is what he does best.

 

[Dog 36]

Who is expected to be in and out for Crows this week. They had no Rankine and Tilthorpe this week and couple of injuries I think. This may also dictate our selections this week

 

[bresker]

Who is expected to be in and out for Crows this week. They had no Rankine and Tilthorpe this week and couple of injuries I think. This may also dictate our selections this week

Go to their board & their version of this thread will give you an idea.

 

[Doggy]

Who is expected to be in and out for Crows this week. They had no Rankine and Tilthorpe this week and couple of injuries I think. This may also dictate our selections this week

Walker got suspended but they are appealing. It's the action they are trying to stamp out though.

 

[perro_loco]

Obviously not the right discussion forum but I cannot help myself. Carlton and Essendon are the two truest FLOG teams in AFL to watch!!!

 

[perro_loco]

McNeil out concussion protol. Jacques in. Great player. Can't believe he was dropped. Maybe Busslinger in for McNeil but ...

 

[Go the Guts]

Who is expected to be in and out for Crows this week. They had no Rankine and Tilthorpe this week and couple of injuries I think. This may also dictate our selections this week

What many think will happen:

Keane (or Nick Murray) in for Butts
Rankine in for Ah Chee
Thilthorpe in for Tex
Pedlar or Hinge in (possibly) for Nankervis

 

[iamthehunter]

Re Treloar, we all know he is an all Australian midfielder but calf injuries have let him down. If he can stay in shape over next couple of weeks he will get very close back to his best again. Let’s be patient before writing him off. I think he deserves a chance.

 

[Ash1337]

What many think will happen:

Keane (or Nick Murray) in for Butts
Rankine in for Ah Chee
Thilthorpe in for Tex
Pedlar or Hinge in (possibly) for Nankervis

How is nank getting dropped after his performance? He was 1 of their best in the defensive 50 after half time. Was there to clean up when the ball hit the deck and covered ground.

 

[Substance]

I dunno if im watching a different player than some on Treloar. Forget he’s an AA Adam treloar for a minute and just evaluate him on face value… I hate to be this harsh but he’s probably the biggest liability running around in the afl. Hes using the ball well but he’s waltzing around in a nothing role, we’re talking 16 PAs and 2 tackles in 3 weeks. Hes a straight up liability

I absolutely love the guy and I was all for giving him another year even if he didn’t play a game, but we can’t carry this. If he can prove at VFL level he can hit full speed and run back & forward consistently I’ll be the first to call for him in. We’re not a ****ing retirement home though, there’s no waiting until he gets up to speed at AFL level which likely isn’t going to happen. We have a lot on the line and this is a professional sport ffs either you’re good enough or you’re not and he’s just not right now

Of course he wants to play and of course he thinks he can play, we’ve put better players out to pasture over the years. Make a decision, look at the margins we’re playing with right now and ask yourself whether it’s okay to carry a single player whose not at the level?

I’m with you on this. It’s been clear for weeks that he’s become a total liability defensively. It’s not just about the lack of pressure acts, it’s that they don’t have any intent behind them. Teams know they can just run straight past him or shrug him off because they know there's no real tackle coming. We’re in a spot where we can't afford to be carrying players who get bypassed that easily.

 

[Libba39]

Baker in for McNeill.

That is all.