Changes v Richmond

[Big Animal]

Was a typo

He meant Foodvan. The chickentreat van on the southwest side of the ground. It plays it's role

 

[valkorum]

I imagine West Perth's ruckman is currently crapping his dacks!

You mean the physically imposing Christopher Keunen at 90kg and 199cm

 

[PapaJ]

Suban was better than Spurr.

Ya what?? No way would Suban stay in ahead of Spurr. Forgetting they played different roles on the w'end, form this year has shown that Spurr is faster, has a bigger tank and can get himself into the play way ahead of Suban when playing the HBF role. Suban I'm convinced has got better footy in him than he's showing, but right now I can't see how you wouldn't stick with Spurr ahead of Suban if they are both going to fight it out for a HBF role.

 

[pavsbootlace]

You mean the physically imposing Christopher Keunen at 90kg and 199cm

90kgs???!!! Look out young fella!

 

[pavsbootlace]

Ya what?? No way would Suban stay in ahead of Spurr. Forgetting they played different roles on the w'end, form this year has shown that Spurr is faster, has a bigger tank and can get himself into the play way ahead of Suban when playing the HBF role. Suban I'm convinced has got better footy in him than he's showing, but right now I can't see how you wouldn't stick with Spurr ahead of Suban if they are both going to fight it out for a HBF role.

Just my opinion, but I thought Spurr was woeful in the first half. Two or three times, he left his man to have no impact on a contest resulting in easy goals. And the two clanger turnovers that directly resulted in goals.

Suban was poor, Spurr was as bad as Marghetts.

 

[Righteo]

Just my opinion, but I thought Spurr was woeful in the first half. Two or three times, he left his man to have no impact on a contest resulting in easy goals. And the two clanger turnovers that directly resulted in goals.

Suban was poor, Spurr was as bad as Marghetts.

Disagree on Spurr, he made a few bad clangers at the start but dramatically improved as the game went on and was involved in numerous important 1 on 1 contests whereas Suban again just had zero impact.

Spurr is also very competent in the air and had a few nice contested marks, another area that Suban is quite poor in.

 

[valkorum]

90kgs???!!! Look out young fella!

You mean the 29yo young fella?

 

[salim malik]

when was this ?? I didnt notice him limping at all,if there was any chance of him re injuring the same foot I dont think he would continue to train ,surely ?
the oval looked pretty soft underfoot,probably not ideal conditions for someone suffering the effects of turf toe

Freo end lead and mark drills,trained on for awhile but then spoke to a trainer and then did some shoulder to shoulder push shove with the trainer then left the track.Like I said continued to train but had a definate limp and like I said hope it was just a twinge

 

[pavsbootlace]

You mean the 29yo young fella?

29 is significantly younger than me

 

[malpaso]

Disagree on Spurr, he made a few bad clangers at the start but dramatically improved as the game went on and was involved in numerous important 1 on 1 contests whereas Suban again just had zero impact.

Spurr is also very competent in the air and had a few nice contested marks, another area that Suban is quite poor in.

Whilst I agree, Spurr was directly responsible for 3-4 goals, both from clangers and not effecting the contest. Duffield and himself both stood there and looked at each other whilst Taylor took a mark in the goal square. That would as he mentioned perturb Lyon to no end.

 

[pavsbootlace]

Disagree on Spurr, he made a few bad clangers at the start but dramatically improved as the game went on and was involved in numerous important 1 on 1 contests whereas Suban again just had zero impact.

Spurr is also very competent in the air and had a few nice contested marks, another area that Suban is quite poor in.

Suban kept Reilly to his lowest disposal count of the year. His defensive game was good. He was poor in attack. In my opinion, Spurr was terrible in both directions.

 

[valkorum]

29 is significantly younger than me

But it makes him the same age as Sandi

 

[bruzaar62]

Whilst I agree, Spurr was directly responsible for 3-4 goals, both from clangers and not effecting the contest. Duffield and himself both stood there and looked at each other whilst Taylor took a mark in the goal square. That would as he mentioned perturb Lyon to no end.

to be fair I think Zac could take some of the blame for this one it was his direct opponent and he showed a real lack of urgency,yes the others could have helped out but a lack of talk/ communication caused this

 

[malpaso]

Suban kept Reilly to his lowest disposal count of the year. His defensive game was good. He was poor in attack. In my opinion, Spurr was terrible in both directions.

That's a very good point, I was wondering what Suban was doing down there.

 

[Seppo]

Sandi looks to be moving well.

Massive dilemma if Ross wants him in. Who goes? Kepler?

 

[Rob]

Kepler in a heartbeat I would have thought. No dilemma at all.

But i'd be surprised if Sandi plays. Richmond is probably the team where we'd only go with 1 ruckman and more runners.

 

[yakka man]

One of the reasons Freo Oval is holding back the footy club. IT is such an average ground to train on and have been said by Belly (I think..) that it needs changing.

Well they have the option to train at Subi once a week but Ross chooses not to.

 

[more_of_bito]

I'm a little nervous On Fyfe like E but while their midfield is one of the better in the league and will get better, besides the big Tasmanian which Luke Mac can cover. their forwards Nahas, King can be covered and their back line can't cover Pav, the tigers game was the one that restarted the Pav at FF, and there is no one I can think of that can cover him.
While Fyfe might be out he hasn't been there all year, Foley is still a big hole for them (didn't play last time), Lower in good wafl form with the contested possessions, Sandi imminent.I am feeling better than this time last year.

 

[muckypup]

I'm a little nervous On Fyfe like E but while their midfield is one of the better in the league and will get better, besides the big Tasmanian which Luke Mac can cover. their forwards Nahas, King can be covered and their back line can't cover Pav, the tigers game was the one that restarted the Pav at FF, and there is no one I can think of that can cover him.
While Fyfe might be out he hasn't been there all year, Foley is still a big hole for them (didn't play last time), Lower in good wafl form with the contested possessions, Sandi imminent. I am feeling better than this time last year.

Absolutely,

Richmond will come with a belief given their recent record against Fremantle and that is a dangerous thing for us. Look at how Melbourne performed, you could tell they really believed they could beat us. As long as Fremantle are prepared it should be a good win and would stamp Fremantle as a finals team in 2012.

 

[TOOs_Finest]

De Boer was our first choice tagger last year, but with Crowley dropping the weight and getting his fitness up Crowley has gone back to being the first choice tagger. So I'd expect Crowley to tag your most damaging mid... most likely Cotchin.

De Boer is generally very disciplined and is able to tag. But I wouldn't see Ross employing two taggers in the midfield. If you have a quarterback type in your backline that really dominates the play (e.g. a Hodge, Deledio in prior seasons, Hurn) then De Boer may be given a tagging job on them. If he is matched up against someone in midfield it'll be more of a run-with role, rather than negation.

Won't be a fun day for the fella he's matched up against, even if it is run-with... he's usually pretty accountable for the guy he's matched up on even if it is just a run with.

I'd heard that Deledio was playing more midfield/onball this year. Is that true?

I expect DeBoer to go to Newman, who plays that exact QB style role you're talking about.

Yes, Deledio plays midfield.

 

[Groupie_]

Reece Conca won't play. Out for the rest of the season.

 

[strobe00]

I expect DeBoer to go to Newman, who plays that exact QB style role you're talking about.

Yes, Deledio plays midfield.

Fair enough. Cheers for the feedback. Hadn't realised that Newman was that damaging (i.e. the backline deliberately funnelled a lot of their play through him). If that's the case then De Boer may well end up down there... especially if Mayne doesn't get up for the game. If Deledio was still down there I suspect De Boer would've been sent to him.

But if Mayne's OK, (and if Newman isn't a lynchpin playmaker) then we may see De Boer matched up against Martin as as more accountable head-to-head (or a looser run-with).

 

[valkorum]

But if Mayne's OK, (and if Newman isn't a lynchpin playmaker) then we may see De Boer matched up against Martin as as more accountable head-to-head (or a looser run-with).

Would love to see Martin try the "don't argue" against DeBoer.

 

[Seppo]

Not sure if it's been pointed out in the thread already, but Ross has never lost to Richmond. 7 wins and 1 draw.

Let's keep the record going...

 

[Arcassius]

Would love to see Martin try the "don't argue" against DeBoer.

Didnt Martin try the 'dont argue' on someone last game and it failed miserably?