Preview Changes v West Coast, Rd 22 2015

[spenze]

Overnight? Start now.

Still remember as a kid, they had a national night comp (probably Escort Cup) and the Hawks was playing the WA side ( think the WA side was Claremont) and Claremont were smashing them. Suddenly in the third quarter, the sprinklers came on, the ball became slippery and the Hawks kicked the last 6 or 7 goals to win. Funny stuff although all from the WAFL thought there may have been some cheating going on...sore bloody losers

 

[crowsbedamned]

Hierarchy need to make the biggest call in Crows history, dump Thommo for CEY/Grigg and shoot for a very winnable flag or stay loyal & get flogged by the pro elite clubs.

 

[dogs105]

Hierarchy need to make the biggest call in Crows history, dump Thommo for CEY/Grigg and shoot for a very winnable flag or stay loyal & get flogged by the pro elite clubs.

Thommo was great around the packs this week.

 

[BunjiMac]

Hierarchy need to make the biggest call in Crows history, dump Thommo for CEY/Grigg and shoot for a very winnable flag or stay loyal & get flogged by the pro elite clubs.

Thompson clearly a champion of this club and has had a reasonable year. However, his defensive transition for a midfielder is woeful, worse than Lyons.

 

[jackster83]

Would you try Cameron as a small defender if Brown doesn't get up?

I would at some stage, but not sure this is the right game for it.

Having multiple strings to your bow is always a good thing and i think he could be very effective as a backman depending on match-ups.

Kelly would be my choice if Brown doesn't get up.

 

[BunjiMac]

Kelly would be my choice if Brown doesn't get up.

Yup, I like Kelly in that role too.

Is a competitive beast.

He may lack the elite speed but you know he is going to make the forward earn every single goal.

 

[PykeDream]

Yup, I like Kelly in that role too.

Is a competitive beast.

He may lack the elite speed but you know he is going to make the forward earn every single goal.

Bit of height doesn't hurt either with even West Coast's 'small' forwards being quite tall (LeCras, Hill, Cripps)

 

[FantasticShirt]

Would you try Cameron as a small defender if Brown doesn't get up?

I would at some stage, but not sure this is the right game for it.

Having multiple strings to your bow is always a good thing and i think he could be very effective as a backman depending on match-ups.

Cameron still learning his craft as a small forward who more recently will occasionally runs off the back of the square at a centre bounce. He's coming along really well but he's nowhere near ready to be dumped down back against a top 2 side. If Brown doesn't get up then it's Kelly or Cheney, or they put VB in a lockdown defensive position and we all cross our fingers.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Saw douglas wearing the tracksuit at the end of the game, but I don't think he was injured, probably managing him after the 2 weeks out. Would bring Kelly in if brown doesn't get up, and bring Lever in for sure (see what I did there ).

 

[SES SA]

Gotta be Danger then, unless they bring in CEY for Thommo. Sloane has to go to Gaff.

CEY has been fairly unimpressive in the SANFL. Besides his spectacular first game, that is.

 

[SES SA]

Mostly agree, which is why I'd go Kerridge for VB - the defensive side of his game is easily on par with Vb.

Now that the Wright and Mackay situation has been fixed, this is all I have left to hope for.

 

[FantasticShirt]

Saw douglas wearing the tracksuit at the end of the game, but I don't think he was injured, probably managing him after the 2 weeks out. Would bring Kelly in if brown doesn't get up, and bring Lever in for sure (see what I did there ).

It was pretty bloody cold. Can't blame him for putting on a tracksuit!

 

[Tyls83]

Game 199 for Vb

 

[mattymac]

Should really play Grigg this week. We will need precise ball movement under pressure to break their web. This game really suits his game.

 

[Shoota Welsh]

Sounds like McGovern is a near certainty to return for this match. Less interesting is that Sam Butler and Scott Selwood may be available for selection. Seems unlikely that Will Schofield will be available.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-23/eagles-set-to-regain-mcgovern-for-crows-clash

hopefully selwood plays lol

 

[bzparkes]

hopefully selwood plays lol

Bite your tongue

 

[Footypie32]

I see a few Weagles supporters dismissing Walkers 7 because we were playing Brisbane. Yes, they're a bottom side, but what they're forgetting is that Tex needed a confidence booster and that's exactly what he got. He'll be ready to rumble on Sunday.

 

[Pugsley]

Interested to see if we try anything different in the ruck/middle this week. Naitanui absolutely destroyed Jacobs last time and Thompson barely touched it.

Throw Eddie in there. Can match him for pace & leap.

 

[moogerfooger]

Lever in for Shaw. Don't think we'll make any other changes - maybe Lyons starts and someone else is sub.

You would think we'd set up better at center clearances this time around.

Still, West Coast are a different beat away from Perth. If we bring the same intensity we did against Richmond, I reckon we'll win in a close one. Mind you, I also reckon Collingwood are some chance of beating the Cats on Friday night so it may not matter.

 

[Aaron929]

Alright so I decided to do some research on the Crows (At home) and the Eagles (Away)

Here is everything I got

West Coast Stats
Round 1 vs Bulldogs - 14 Goals (Away) - Lost by 10 Points
Round 2 vs Carlton - 20 Goals (Home) - Won by 69 Points
Round 3 vs Fremantle - 12 Goals (Home) - Lost by 30 Points
Round 4 vs Brisbane - 17 Goals (Away) - Won by 53 Points
Round 5 vs GWS - 18 Goals (Home) - Won by 87 Points
Round 6 vs Port - 11 Goals (Away) - Won by 10 Points
Round 7 vs Gold Coast - 21 Goals (Home) - Won by 92 Points
Round 8 vs St Kilda - 20 Goals (Away) - Won by 53 Points
Round 9 vs Geelong - 16 Goals (Home) - Won by 56 points
Round 10 vs North Melbourne - 10 Goals (Away) - Lost by 10 points
Round 11 vs Essendon - 14 Goals (Home) - Won by 50 points
Round 12 vs Richmond - 13 Goals (Away) - Won by 20 points
Round 13 BYE
Round 14 vs Melbourne - 16 Goals (Away) - Won by 54 Points
Round 15 vs Crows - 22 Goals (Home) - Won by 56 Points
Round 16 vs Collingwood - 11 Goals (Away) - Won by 31 Points
Round 17 vs Sydney - 15 Goals (Home) - Won by 52 Points
Round 18 vs Gold Coast - 11 Goals (Away) - Drew
Round 19 vs Hawthorn - 11 Goals (Home) - Lost by 14 Points
Round 20 vs Fremantle - 15 Goals (Away) - Won by 24 Points
Round 21 vs Bulldogs - 25 Goals (Home) - Won by 77 Points

Home - Average winning margin at home is 67 points
Away - Average winning margin away is 35 points
West Coast on average win by an extra 32 points at home.
Home Goals Kicked By Eagles - 174 - Average 17.4 Goals at home
Away Goals Kicked By Eagles - 138 - Average 13.8 Goals Away

Eagles have a 36 Goal difference between Home & Away games
(West Coast have smashed Lions, St Kilda, Melbourne away from home)

Those 3 games equate to 53 Goals let’s take them out of the equation for a moment

This brings Eagles Away goals down to 85 for the year away with an Average of 12.14 goals a game.
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Adelaide Crows Stats
Round 1 vs North - 21 Goals (Home) Won by 77 Points
Round 2 vs Collingwood - 12 Goals (Away) Won by 27 Points
Round 3 vs Melbourne -12 Goals (Home) Won by 25 Points
Round 4 vs Bulldogs - 10 Goals (Away) Lost by 57 Points
Round 5 vs Port - 13 Goals (Home) Lost by 24 Points
Round 6 vs Suns - 18 Goals (Away) Won by 41 Points
Round 7 vs St Kilda - 18 Goals (Home) Won by 46 Points
Round 8 vs Giants - 12 Goals (Away) Lost by 24 Points
Round 9 vs Fremantle - 7 Goals (Home) Lost by 11 Points
Round 10 vs Carlton - 14 Goals (Away) Won by 9 Points
Round 11 BYE
Round 12 vs Hawks - 12 Goals (Home) Lost by 29 Points
Round 13 vs Lions - 11 Goals (Away) Won by 13 Points
Round 14 RIP WALSHY
Round 15 vs Eagles - 14 Goals (Away) Lost by 56 Points
Round 16 vs Port - 18 Goals (Away) Won by 3 Points
Round 17 vs Suns - 19 Goals (Home) Won by 45 Points
Round 18 vs Sydney - 9 Goals (Away) Lost by 52 Points
Round 19 vs Richmond - 11 Goals (Home) Won by 36 Points
Round 20 vs Essendon - 27 Goals (Away) Won by 112
Round 21 vs Lions - 20 Goals (Home) Won by 87 Points

Home - Average winning margin at home is 52 Points
Home Goals Kicked By Adelaide - 133 - Average 14.7 Goals at Home
Crows have also played one less game than the eagles.

Judge for yourself guys I think were in with a massive chance, Also I didn't count the away showdown or away derby in these stats as they count as an away game!

 

[Damp Squarie]

Will be interesting to see how Brown's ankle pulls up, and commentators were suggesting an injury to Laird as well (?).

Lyons must play a full game.

Kerridge, Wright, Grigg and Mackay all solid in the magoos (stat wise).

How did Podsy go?

 

[Sanders]

Walshy use to say "every team is vulnerable once they step on the plane"

St Malcolm of Blighty had an even simpler variation of same. when asked about how to cure our 'travelling' issues, he said that it wasn't a secret or a mystery: teams need to be 30% better to win on the road. nothing to do with routines, hotels, travel times etc. just about being that much better on the day.

which is not easy to do.

 

[Sanders]

Hierarchy need to make the biggest call in Crows history, dump Thommo for CEY/Grigg and shoot for a very winnable flag or stay loyal & get flogged by the pro elite clubs.

WTF

 

[Crowbots are dead]

Nah was very soft for a few contests, didn't help team mates out a fair bit (Shepard), few poor decisions. Just a shame Jaensch injured.

Totally disagree on that one

 

[johnnypanther]

Too many of us evaluate players performances in a game by fitting the stats to their preconceived bias against or for such player.
Try to be a bit more objective.