Strategy Changes vs Pies.

[Sando22]

Yes Petracca 1 v 1 is a beast. But not Melksham. I suspect Maynard and Crisp are the most likely opponents I50 for them because they both have strength, pace and agility.
Would rather the above 1 v 1's I50 than Hogan and TMAC.

Thanks.
You have confirmed what we all in here suspected in that you know 2/5 of FA about how our forward line operates.
We look forward to Monday in what should be a close and hard fought game where I expect us to be victorious by 3 or 4 goals.
Why? Because I think we are simply just better.
I'll be filthy if we lose.
Appreciate your attempt at an argument but I think we've all heard enough now so off you trot.

 

[No SPIN]

Melksham is in the top few in the league for winning 1v1 contests inside 50 this year ... punctuated by the 4 goals goals he kicked directly opposing Rance on Anzac Eve.

So thanks for providing definitive proof that all of your analysis on Melbourne has been done based off watching the bare minimum of their footy on your way out.

I'm sure you're no making up that stat so please provide the source.

 

[Cromulent1]

I'm sure you're no making up that stat so please provide the source.

Herald Sun 28th May. Jake Melksham best one on one forward in the comp. Paywalled but you can still google the headline. I'm sure someone here will provide you with further evidence to drive the point home.

 

[Proper Gander]

I'm sure you're no making up that stat so please provide the source.

Oi

Here is summary of the article Cromulent1 refers to:

From the Herald Sun

WHO is the AFL’s one-on-one king close to goal?
Is it Geelong’s hulking spearhead Tom Hawkins? What about Richmond bull Dustin Martin? Perhaps it is Sydney colossus Lance Franklin?

Wrong. Wrong .Wrong. After Round 10 this season the answer is surprisingly underrated and undersized Melbourne forward Jake Melksham, and by some margin.

The Demons forward has won nine out of his 14 one-on-one contests in the attacking 50m this season, with his career-best form a key reason behind the club’s surge to third on the ladder.

Melksham, 26, is listed at just 186cm and 83kg and yet he is proving hard to beat in the most dangerous part of the ground.

The former Essendon player’s stocks soar even higher when you analyse footy’s ‘‘money kick’ — going inside 50m.
While Melksham is becoming unmovable near goal, he is even better at delivering the ball to the hot spot.

This season the Demons have retained possession from 23 out of Melksham’s 35 kicks inside 50m, ranked No.2 in the AFL and above elite ball users Martin, Scott Pendlebury and Dayne Zorko.

If you look at the ‘‘money kick’ men over the past four weeks, Melksham towers above the rest of the competition.

Since Round 6 the Demons have retained possession from a ridiculous 93.3 per cent of Melksham’s kicks inside 50m.
The next best is Brisbane Lion’s Tom Cutler (71.4 per cent) and Melksham’s teammate, Clayton Oliver, is ranked fourth at 62.5 per cent over the past month.

Many Demon fans were surprised when their club parted with pick No.25 in the 2015 draft for Melksham, a selection used by Essendon on Mason Redman (three games).
Melksham then sat out the 2016 season due to the drugs saga but has since repaid the faith shown by coach Simon Goodwin.

Melksham slotted 4.0 against Richmond on Anzac eve and then booted 5.0 against Carlton last week, a performance rated his best in six seasons by Champion Data.

The brutal return of co-captain Jack Viney, the hot form of out-of-contract players Tom McDonald and Angus Brayshaw and the improvement of recruit Jake Lever are hogging the spotlight as the Demons emerge as a serious player in this year’s premiership race.

But it is Melksham’s weapons in the front half that deserve a decent share of the spotlight.
Last season Melksham was used to tag Norm Smith Medallist Jason Johannisen when the Demons beat the Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium.
When they meet again on Saturday it is more likely that Melksham will be the man facing the clamp.


Okay No Spin person - you've got your source. Now can't you go find somewhere else to bore people? Thanks

 

[Cromulent1]

Oi

Here is summary of the article Cromulent1 refers to:

From the Herald Sun

WHO is the AFL’s one-on-one king close to goal?
Is it Geelong’s hulking spearhead Tom Hawkins? What about Richmond bull Dustin Martin? Perhaps it is Sydney colossus Lance Franklin?

Wrong. Wrong .Wrong. After Round 10 this season the answer is surprisingly underrated and undersized Melbourne forward Jake Melksham, and by some margin.

The Demons forward has won nine out of his 14 one-on-one contests in the attacking 50m this season, with his career-best form a key reason behind the club’s surge to third on the ladder.

Melksham, 26, is listed at just 186cm and 83kg and yet he is proving hard to beat in the most dangerous part of the ground.

The former Essendon player’s stocks soar even higher when you analyse footy’s ‘‘money kick’ — going inside 50m.
While Melksham is becoming unmovable near goal, he is even better at delivering the ball to the hot spot.

This season the Demons have retained possession from 23 out of Melksham’s 35 kicks inside 50m, ranked No.2 in the AFL and above elite ball users Martin, Scott Pendlebury and Dayne Zorko.

If you look at the ‘‘money kick’ men over the past four weeks, Melksham towers above the rest of the competition.

Since Round 6 the Demons have retained possession from a ridiculous 93.3 per cent of Melksham’s kicks inside 50m.
The next best is Brisbane Lion’s Tom Cutler (71.4 per cent) and Melksham’s teammate, Clayton Oliver, is ranked fourth at 62.5 per cent over the past month.

Many Demon fans were surprised when their club parted with pick No.25 in the 2015 draft for Melksham, a selection used by Essendon on Mason Redman (three games).
Melksham then sat out the 2016 season due to the drugs saga but has since repaid the faith shown by coach Simon Goodwin.

Melksham slotted 4.0 against Richmond on Anzac eve and then booted 5.0 against Carlton last week, a performance rated his best in six seasons by Champion Data.

The brutal return of co-captain Jack Viney, the hot form of out-of-contract players Tom McDonald and Angus Brayshaw and the improvement of recruit Jake Lever are hogging the spotlight as the Demons emerge as a serious player in this year’s premiership race.

But it is Melksham’s weapons in the front half that deserve a decent share of the spotlight.
Last season Melksham was used to tag Norm Smith Medallist Jason Johannisen when the Demons beat the Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium.
When they meet again on Saturday it is more likely that Melksham will be the man facing the clamp.


Okay No Spin person - you've got your source. Now can't you go find somewhere else to bore people? Thanks

Point well driven.

 

[No SPIN]

Oi

Here is summary of the article Cromulent1 refers to:

From the Herald Sun

WHO is the AFL’s one-on-one king close to goal?
Is it Geelong’s hulking spearhead Tom Hawkins? What about Richmond bull Dustin Martin? Perhaps it is Sydney colossus Lance Franklin?

Wrong. Wrong .Wrong. After Round 10 this season the answer is surprisingly underrated and undersized Melbourne forward Jake Melksham, and by some margin.

The Demons forward has won nine out of his 14 one-on-one contests in the attacking 50m this season, with his career-best form a key reason behind the club’s surge to third on the ladder.

Melksham, 26, is listed at just 186cm and 83kg and yet he is proving hard to beat in the most dangerous part of the ground.

The former Essendon player’s stocks soar even higher when you analyse footy’s ‘‘money kick’ — going inside 50m.
While Melksham is becoming unmovable near goal, he is even better at delivering the ball to the hot spot.

This season the Demons have retained possession from 23 out of Melksham’s 35 kicks inside 50m, ranked No.2 in the AFL and above elite ball users Martin, Scott Pendlebury and Dayne Zorko.

If you look at the ‘‘money kick’ men over the past four weeks, Melksham towers above the rest of the competition.

Since Round 6 the Demons have retained possession from a ridiculous 93.3 per cent of Melksham’s kicks inside 50m.
The next best is Brisbane Lion’s Tom Cutler (71.4 per cent) and Melksham’s teammate, Clayton Oliver, is ranked fourth at 62.5 per cent over the past month.

Many Demon fans were surprised when their club parted with pick No.25 in the 2015 draft for Melksham, a selection used by Essendon on Mason Redman (three games).
Melksham then sat out the 2016 season due to the drugs saga but has since repaid the faith shown by coach Simon Goodwin.

Melksham slotted 4.0 against Richmond on Anzac eve and then booted 5.0 against Carlton last week, a performance rated his best in six seasons by Champion Data.

The brutal return of co-captain Jack Viney, the hot form of out-of-contract players Tom McDonald and Angus Brayshaw and the improvement of recruit Jake Lever are hogging the spotlight as the Demons emerge as a serious player in this year’s premiership race.

But it is Melksham’s weapons in the front half that deserve a decent share of the spotlight.
Last season Melksham was used to tag Norm Smith Medallist Jason Johannisen when the Demons beat the Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium.
When they meet again on Saturday it is more likely that Melksham will be the man facing the clamp.


Okay No Spin person - you've got your source. Now can't you go find somewhere else to bore people? Thanks

Fantastic - has won 9/14 I50 one on one contests this season.
Isn't the obvious question here - the poor quality of the opposition over the last few weeks flattering this stat.

So I've gone to AFL Stats site and found in a direct comparison of Coll and Melb. players he is ranked 36 on AFL fantasy and 22 on Ratings Points.

So I'm comfortable he is a manageable threat.

You will be interested to know in the same analysis:
TOP 3 by Rating points were Pendlebury, Treloar and Grundy
and COLL had 4 of the TOP 5 in AFL Fantasy Ratings.

So I'll leave you with that.

 

[Sando22]

Fantastic - has won 9/14 I50 one on one contests this season.
Isn't the obvious question here - the poor quality of the opposition over the last few weeks flattering this stat.

So I've gone to AFL Stats site and found in a direct comparison of Coll and Melb. players he is ranked 36 on AFL fantasy and 22 on Ratings Points.

So I'm comfortable he is a manageable threat.

You will be interested to know in the same analysis:
TOP 3 by Rating points were Pendlebury, Treloar and Grundy
and COLL had 4 of the TOP 5 in AFL Fantasy Ratings.

So I'll leave you with that.

Kicked 4 goals on Rance. Widely rated as the premier defender in the comp. And he's our 3rd or 4th banana.
You quote your AFL fantasy points and Ratings as they are tripe.

Now could you please find it manageable to **** off?

 

[Proper Gander]

Fantastic - has won 9/14 I50 one on one contests this season.
Isn't the obvious question here - the poor quality of the opposition over the last few weeks flattering this stat.

So I've gone to AFL Stats site and found in a direct comparison of Coll and Melb. players he is ranked 36 on AFL fantasy and 22 on Ratings Points.

So I'm comfortable he is a manageable threat.

You will be interested to know in the same analysis:
TOP 3 by Rating points were Pendlebury, Treloar and Grundy
and COLL had 4 of the TOP 5 in AFL Fantasy Ratings.

So I'll leave you with that.

look - you asked for the source of the comment and it was provided. And what a surprise, you first deny that it exists and then when proven wrong decide to argue with it.

We’ve given you some time and all of your comments are fascinating because you are obviously a person who watches lots and lots of football and never that type of person who just watches endless repeats of any game won by Collingwood.

But you're really, really tedious now. Don't post again - this is the Melbourne board and we don't mind discussion with opposition but you're just auto-replying with the same old crap.

 

[Cromulent1]

Fantastic - has won 9/14 I50 one on one contests this season.
Isn't the obvious question here - the poor quality of the opposition over the last few weeks flattering this stat.

So I've gone to AFL Stats site and found in a direct comparison of Coll and Melb. players he is ranked 36 on AFL fantasy and 22 on Ratings Points.

So I'm comfortable he is a manageable threat.

You will be interested to know in the same analysis:
TOP 3 by Rating points were Pendlebury, Treloar and Grundy
and COLL had 4 of the TOP 5 in AFL Fantasy Ratings.

So I'll leave you with that.

Wow. Just wow.
So much wrong with this post but you made up for it somewhat by saying you're leaving. Happy days!!!

 

[TheCount]

Fantastic - has won 9/14 I50 one on one contests this season.
Isn't the obvious question here - the poor quality of the opposition over the last few weeks flattering this stat.

So I've gone to AFL Stats site and found in a direct comparison of Coll and Melb. players he is ranked 36 on AFL fantasy and 22 on Ratings Points.

So I'm comfortable he is a manageable threat.

You will be interested to know in the same analysis:
TOP 3 by Rating points were Pendlebury, Treloar and Grundy
and COLL had 4 of the TOP 5 in AFL Fantasy Ratings.

So I'll leave you with that.

 

[No SPIN]

As a first experience in engaging at length with an opposition board, its been an enlightening.

I was hoping I might learn a little more than Melkshams recent stats.

But all good.

 

[Cromulent1]

As a first experience in engaging at length with an opposition board, its been an enlightening.

I was hoping I might learn a little more than Melkshams recent stats.

But all good.

You said you were leaving. Don't be a liar too.

 

[TheCount]

As a first experience in engaging at length with an opposition board, its been an enlightening.

I was hoping I might learn a little more than Melkshams recent stats.

But all good.

He's also a good boxer ... now seriously, **** off.

 

[Cromulent1]

He's also a good boxer ... now seriously, **** off.

Have you heard Brad Green once tried out for Manchester!!

 

[Proper Gander]

As a first experience in engaging at length with an opposition board, its been an enlightening.

I was hoping I might learn a little more than Melkshams recent stats.

But all good.

Okay then. The please leave thing isn't working so you're officially out.

 

[Cromulent1]

Someone just showed me a FB post about Hannan being injured. It didn't elaborate, just that he is injured. Anyone got any mail on that? Opportunity for Garlett to show he's still got what it takes perhaps. Maybe Buggy.

 

[BG32]

No SPIN you got rag dolled bro

 

[Tulip]

Someone just showed me a FB post about Hannan being injured. It didn't elaborate, just that he is injured. Anyone got any mail on that? Opportunity for Garlett to show he's still got what it takes perhaps. Maybe Buggy.

Hopefully its not serious, but a week off wouldn't be the worst result. I'd like to see us get a crumber in given Collingwood's back six is pretty competitive and we can't expect to waltz through them ala. Carlton or St Kilda. Some fresh blood wouldn't be terrible either.

Could be a good week to bring Garlett in for another crack, but I'd probably go for Hunt and try get him around the forward 50 as an offensive runner/tagger. His field kicking is poor, but he can kick for goal and has 55-60m torps in him which are pretty useful from the arc. He's a good tackler and was historically a manic competitor when the ball was in his area. I also just really rate Hunt, and think he adds something that ANB and Harmes, despite their GPS numbers, don't have.

 

[Cromulent1]

Hopefully its not serious, but a week off wouldn't be the worst result. I'd like to see us get a crumber in given Collingwood's back six is pretty competitive and we can't expect to waltz through them ala. Carlton or St Kilda. Some fresh blood wouldn't be terrible either.

Could be a good week to bring Garlett in for another crack, but I'd probably go for Hunt and try get him around the forward 50 as an offensive runner/tagger. His field kicking is poor, but he can kick for goal and has 55-60m torps in him which are pretty useful from the arc. He's a good tackler and was historically a manic competitor when the ball was in his area. I also just really rate Hunt, and think he adds something that ANB and Harmes, despite their GPS numbers, don't have.

I'd be fine with Hunt and could also go back if required. Be interesting to see him ply his trade as a forward and use his great tackling pressure where turnovers could directly result in goals. A friend bumped into him last week and he was bitterly disappointed at not being starting 22. Perhaps hunger + opportunity is the catalyst to get him kick started again.

 

[Tulip]

I'd be fine with Hunt and could also go back if required. Be interesting to see him ply his trade as a forward and use his great tackling pressure where turnovers could directly result in goals. A friend bumped into him last week and he was bitterly disappointed at not being starting 22. Perhaps hunger + opportunity is the catalyst to get him kick started again.

I hope so. One thing people aren't doing well with our recent form is being realistic. There's been a lot of 'Fritsch, ANB and Harmes are crucial - will only get better from here' types of comments, which is fine, but we were saying the same about Tyson (2016) and Hunt (2017). A poorly timed run of bad form is all it takes for a player to end up on the outer. Hunt should be furious about not being best 22, but lets talk about the future if he's still struggling in 12 or 18 months. Good sides have depth. How long did Joel Hamling have to wait at the Dogs before Marcus Adams' injury gave him a way in. 11 games in 15 and 12 games in 16. He played a crucial role in a flag side, and is now playing a big role every week for Freo. As for Adams, he still can't get back in due to form and injury.

 

[Tulip]

Melbourne

B: Christian Salem, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta
HB: Angus Brayshaw, Michael Hibberd, Jordan Lewis
C: Bernie Vince, Jack Viney, Nathan Jones
HF: Bayley Fritsch, Tom McDonald, Clayton Oliver
F: Charlie Spargo, Jesse Hogan, Jake Melksham
Foll: Max Gawn, James Harmes, Christian Petracca
I/C (from): Billy Stretch, Mitch Hannan, Cameron Pedersen, Jayden Hunt, Alex Neal-Bullen, Harrison Petty, Jeff Garlett, Joel Smith

In: Stretch, Pedersen, Hunt, Petty, Garlett, J.Smith
Out: Lever (knee), T.Smith

Wahey, no Wagner and Smith omitted.

 

[pjfairbairn]

Even with a 26 man squad, our depth is so strong.

Not in there, and not injured, are T. Smith, Weid, Wagner, Tyson, Frost, Bugg, Balic, Baker, JKH, Johnstone, Keilty, King, Filipovic

 

[CTHORANGE]

So really no closer to knowing Lever's replacement

 

[Proper Gander]

So really no closer to knowing Lever's replacement

One of Hunt, Smith or Petty from the ins I would say.

 

[CTHORANGE]

One of Hunt, Smith or Petty from the ins I would say.

True, I forgot about Frost (even though I was advocating for him) not being named means we are a little bit closer to knowing