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[Gethelred]

Welcome to the Ask an Atheist thread II.

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Alright, we're going to have a change of tack. As I'm sure you can see, the thread title has been changed to Ask an Atheist. People who have a question to ask of the atheists who populate this thread - more than the christians do - should feel free to ask questions of them. If you've still got...

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[Vdubs]

Cause there's no one kind of atheist. Buddhism is also atheistic in nature, so what? atheists can believe in all sorts of stuff (minus deity). So ask an atheist can be very interesting but for all you 'know it all' types with a special hotline to the creator of the universe, it might be irrelevant.

And there's only one kind of Christian?

 

[Total Power]

And there's only one kind of Christian?

Mostly yes believers in Christ. While beliefs can differ but central tenet is the same.

 

[revo333]

I honestly don't know if Jesus existed. The evidence looks pretty thin (one book as far I can tell).

And before anyone comes back with Josephus as collaborating evidence - he was born after Christ supposedly died. Tacitus even later. I don't deny the possibility that Jesus existed - I don't deny the possibility of his divinity. I do raise the issue of probability though.

Many historians who are not religious accept that Jesus existed.

 

[revo333]

And there's only one kind of Christian?

The Charlie Kirk kind of Christians are definitely not the same kind of Christians I grew up with.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Semantics.
Labelling beliefs and prayer, and practicing as a Christian as ridiculous, farcical, deluded and unbelievable is ridicule, but we do expect that sort of reaction- it has been commonplace since the genesis of Christianity in fact.

Given the complete absence of evidence for them, calling beliefs and prayer “ridiculous, farcical, deluded and unbelievable” is simple truth telling. Sorry you can’t handle it, but it’s not ridicule.

Religious believers love to conveniently adopt new meanings for words. (In the case of Christians, it goes all the way back to the foundation point of your belief, where in order to have a religion, you redefined “dead” as also somehow meaning “not dead”. That’s a corker.)

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Do you think Christians would come into a Thread for Atheists and try and "criticise" your fellowship, your science, your need for evidence, even if all the atheists left the thread? On a daily basis. Indefinitely?

You’re changing the topic. You implied that atheists enjoying fellowship was some sort of betrayal of their beliefs, like we’re all required by dogma (of which there is none in atheism, as it is an absence of belief, not a belief) to be some type of ascetic loners.

But to answer your question - I like nothing more than to vigorously discuss the big questions of life, and if Christians are capable of mounting credible, fact-based arguments, I would welcome them on here daily.

Sadly, what we mostly see in reality is new faces popping up occasionally, mounting arguments based in belief, not fact, and then scurrying away muttering something about how it’s the vibe, man.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

The Charlie Kirk kind of Christians are definitely not the same kind of Christians I grew up with.

They are a cancer on Christianity IMO.

 

[Green Hammer]

Mostly yes believers in Christ. While beliefs can differ but central tenet is the same.

Are you a catholic?

 

[Rusty Brookes]

...mysterious ways. Apparently does a tag team with Santa.

I find that offensive - as a wrestling fan.

 

[Vdubs]

The Charlie Kirk kind of Christians are definitely not the same kind of Christians I grew up with.

never heard of Charlie Kirk- I could research it, but something tells me not worth it?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

never heard of Charlie Kirk- I could research it, but something tells me not worth it?

You're one of the lucky ones.

 

[Chief]

never heard of Charlie Kirk- I could research it, but something tells me not worth it?

Just imagine the worst of the right pretending to be a good Christian while riding on Trump's jet.

 

[Total Power]

Are you a catholic?

Ex Christian (not catholic). Not an atheist either.

 

[Green Hammer]

Ex Christian (not catholic). Not an atheist either.

You are a theist ?

 

[Total Power]

You are a theist ?

Nope, agnostic.

 

[Green Hammer]

Nope, agnostic.

Cant be . Either you are convinced there is a god or you you are not.

 

[Green Hammer]

Just imagine the worst of the right pretending to be a good Christian while riding on Trump's jet.

What is a good Christian?

 

[Total Power]

Cant be . Either you are convinced there is a god or you you are not.

Rubbish. The genuine and honest answer would be 'i do not know', cause it's impossible to know.

Anyone convinced otherwise is lying to themselves. And in this thread there are plenty of people who are like that.

 

[Green Hammer]

Rubbish. The genuine and honest answer would be 'i do not know', cause it's impossible to know.

Anyone convinced otherwise is lying to themselves. And in this thread there are plenty of people who are like that.

Total Power - do you reject the claim that there is a god?

 

[Total Power]

Total Power - do you reject the claim that there is a god?

Please go and learn what agnosticism is. Stop wasting my time

 

[Green Hammer]

Please go and learn what agnosticism is. Stop wasting my time

You reject the claim so you are an atheist . Welcome

 

[Total Power]

You reject the claim so you are an atheist . Welcome

You ain't the sharpest tool or hammer in the shed.

 

[Green Hammer]

You ain't the sharpest tool or hammer in the shed.

Either Youre as smart as a sack of hammers or totally dishonest if you cant acknowledge what is being said to you

 

[Total Power]

Either Youre as smart as a sack of hammers or totally dishonest if you cant acknowledge what is being said to you

Coming from someone who doesn't grasp a simple concept. Go away.

 

[Green Hammer]

Coming from someone who doesn't grasp a simple concept. Go away.

I would say the former