Coaching Changes

[TrainRoo32]

Always wondered how do you judge a fitness coach?
What actually makes you a good fitness coach?
Who is the best atm?

 

[Wood_Duck]

if you people could read you could clearly see on the crows website that is says Brett Burton will return to the Club in the newly-created role of General Manager of High Performance while Physical Performance Manager Nick Poulos will depart the Club to take up a role with Australian Sevens Rugby in the lead up to the 2016 Olympic Games.

So if some of you guys could read properly you would see that we still need a new Physical Performance Manager.

Therefore Poulos was not shafted or pushed out so settle down.

Except that's wrong. He was effectively demoted in favour of a bloke with fewer credentials. Poulos isn't happy.

 

[Bay62]

I would have head hunted Craigy for Burton's role tbh. That's his primary skillset.

That's what I've been thinking!

Everyone on here is talking about either Craig or Burton

Maybe the two will be linked. Craig is good at the fitness stuff

 

[Crowfoot]

 

[Crowfoot]

wonder if that another club for Jarrod Cotton is Sturt as the new Senior Coach?

I heard a rumour that Tyson Edwards was a strong contender for this position.

 

[Bay62]

Good for him

If we were Port we'd be bragging about how we develop coaches so they can be poached by other clubs

 

[FantasticShirt]

Really? What the hell has the rest of the stuff happening with our club to do with our strength and conditioning. I don't recall making a point about Burton being responsible for any of our other issues. I made a genuine comment that his work had been largely underwhelming at Brisbane in the job he was hired to do. I even made a suggestion that he may have been hampered by some of our resourcing issues. But hey if you want to ignore my whole post and just have a crack at the issues within our club over the last decade then go right ahead if it makes you feel any better. Geez....

As for flipping out it would appear that only one of us managed that and it certainly wasn't me.

My point was more that he's been at your club during a time of general underperformance. I'm genuinely interested whether he was a contributor to this or not, because other than your post I've never heard him mentioned as a reason before. The "flipping out" comment was directed at people on this board rather than you. Thanks for your input.

As for his role, one of the articles listed that he changed roles about 18 months ago? Maybe it was just a name change.

Always wondered how do you judge a fitness coach?
What actually makes you a good fitness coach?
Who is the best atm?

Well there's really only 1 KPI that matters at the end of the day and that's premierships. That would mean Hawks have the best fitness coach. But then last year everyone talked up how great Port were at running over teams so that makes Burgess the best fitness coach?

Like you say, it's difficult to judge.

 

[Pugsley]

Genuinely surprised that you've named Burton as the head of your high performance program. Doubt you would find a single lions supporter who is sad to see him go. I must admit he did stem the raft of soft tissue injuries that plagued us before he came on board (most of our injuries this year were collision based) however as a team we constantly looked undersized with even our senior players looking skinny and unable to physically compete. How much did that lack of size hurt us in collisions and cause some of our injuries is hard to tell.

Even with our slight frames we still didn't run out games very well although some of that can be contributed to having to chase so much from turning the ball over every time we got it.

I don't know if you can put any of this down to resourcing on our part or not. Was he not able to get the staff or facilities to implement what he wanted? Were our fitness staff spread to thin to fully monitor players? Its hard to say but he certainly had a number of underwhelming years with us. On the surface it certainly appears a strange appointment given his track record with our team over the last few years.

I believe you should just concern yourself with your own clubs problems.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

The first thing I think of is he seems inexperienced for that role and that's presuming he's a gun at what he does which seems unproven

Will wait and see once the whole high performance team has been assembled , too early to call as a whole but the burton appointment itself in that role has me scratching my head


I think it was roo's AFC hall of fame speech where he said something along the lines of ' neil craig is one of the best people there is in footy and he'd be welcome back at any time if the opportunity was right '

Anybody got audio or quotes from this speech?

Would not surprise to see him offered DOC role but think he will take Carlton's offer of a similar role

Burton has been running their fitness program for 5 years

 

[Wood_Duck]

I wonder who else applied for the job?

 

[AFC3000]

Brett Burton will be on Fiveaa after 5:30.

 

[FR0GGY]

I wonder who else applied for the job?

Michelle bridges

 

[AFC3000]

Something I've picked up from the club press release and what Bickley/Rowe know is there has been mention that Poulos had good technical knowledge, while Burton will be a good manager of other people.

Bickley also seemed to think Poulos wasn't asked to apple as he was told they already had somebody in mind for the job.

 

[Wood_Duck]

I wonder how far and wide we cast the net to find the best person available for the new GM High Performance role. Surely we searched the world. #Elite

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Burton has been running their fitness program for 5 years

Correct ...and that seems his only experience working in similar role with an elite sporting team or association

Wouldn't think that is highly qualified when you look at some of the other high performance guys in AFL and their experience

Maybe they rate his experience as a player in the AFL and how that may give him an advantage compared to others , who knows ?

Not writing him off but just seems a little bizarre

 

[headache1]

I believe you should just concern yourself with your own clubs problems.

The person he's commenting on has just been doing the same role at the club he supports for the past 5 years. Personally, I'd like to hear what Brisbane supporters have to say about Burton and his time there.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

My point was more that he's been at your club during a time of general underperformance. I'm genuinely interested whether he was a contributor to this or not, because other than your post I've never heard him mentioned as a reason before. The "flipping out" comment was directed at people on this board rather than you. Thanks for your input.

As for his role, one of the articles listed that he changed roles about 18 months ago? Maybe it was just a name change.



Well there's really only 1 KPI that matters at the end of the day and that's premierships. That would mean Hawks have the best fitness coach. But then last year everyone talked up how great Port were at running over teams so that makes Burgess the best fitness coach?

Like you say, it's difficult to judge.

Or it could be injury prevention , North melb is known to have oneof the lowest rates of soft tissue injury in world sport , and in some cases twice as good as other AFL sides

 

[Big Gazoongas]

Given that's his only real experience post retirement I find this appointment
to be a little bizarre

Can anyone tell me if he has done any other work besides the brisbane job since end of 2010 ?

Seems under qualified when comparing the experience of other high performance managers in the AFL in terms of experience and qualifications for this particular role

( did some wiki and LinkedIn research)

Agree.

I really don't understand how he has been appointed to the General Manager role after working with one club after retirement. This does not make any sense to me, its a serious WTF moment.

The extension of Clarkes contract doesn't inspire me either. I just don't rate the man. When I listen to him speak I feel like smashing my head into a bed of nails.

Hope Fages and Roo have got this right, time will tell.

 

[treeman]

Michelle bridges

Would rather Commando as our fitness coach.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Maybe someone could tweet the club and ask how many other applicants there were for the job?

 

[Scorpus]

 

[headache1]

Would rather Commando as our fitness coach.

Could we line him up at CHB?

 

[treeman]

Could we line him up at CHB?

Maybe a fitness coach/CHB. Michelle Bridges could do something at the club too I'm sure as they are a couple. Sure we could find a job for her.

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[FR0GGY]

Would rather Commando as our fitness coach.

I'll take the bridge thanks

 

[Sanders]

Just shocked at how dismissive noble was of Poulos

Nick’s technical knowledge is great and he has been a dedicated and hard-working member of our physical performance team,” Noble said.