Deepest list

[Jesslc]

Best depth is geelong i think. Worst could be freo or sydney only because they rarely blood young players

 

[Art Vandelay_]

The Cats list is better heading into this season then this time last year. The only weakness on the Cats playing list is the lack of small forwards. Apart from that Geelong's list is in good shape for 2016 which should see then making the finals.

I'd argue small defence also. Lots of eggs in the Bews basket given Enright is in his last season presumably. Outside that unproven players, Smedts and Bartel being used down back.

I'm pining for Guthrie to resume that role personally. Not sure it will happen however.

 

[CD__]

Sydney's list is as shallow (in terms of experience) as I can remember. I believe a few of the untried kids have the ability to make it but it'll definitely be a season of crossing fingers/toes/arms/legs and hoping the injury god deals us a favourable hand.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Sydney's list is as shallow (in terms of experience) as I can remember. I believe a few of the untried kids have the ability to make it but it'll definitely be a season of crossing fingers/toes/arms/legs and hoping the injury god deals us a favourable hand.

I must admit I was staggered when I saw the "second 22" listed on another thread. I'd be confident that four, maybe five depth options could play a (limited) role in the side - past that there are a lot of "maybes". There's upside there though; the back half of your list is extremely young. Are there any of those younger guys that you're really confident can make an impact?

 

[Kram]

The two grand finalists in hawthorn and the Eagles.
Next best... Port?

Port's depth is poor..

 

[pacman]

What do you mean know much about football why because I don't agree with the sheep that say Hawthorn have the deepest list pretty sure GWS and Collingwood would have more depth players then Hawthorn

Hawks have been in the last 4 GF's and won 3 while Box Hill have been in the past 3 GF's and won 1 pretty sure that is excellent depth.
We continue to unearth good young players with high picks.

 

[CD__]

I must admit I was staggered when I saw the "second 22" listed on another thread. I'd be confident that four, maybe five depth options could play a (limited) role in the side - past that there are a lot of "maybes". There's upside there though; the back half of your list is extremely young. Are there any of those younger guys that you're really confident can make an impact?

I'm confident that George Hewett will be a solid AFL player, just hopefully with us! Guys like Dan Robinson and Zak Jones are both promising as well. As far as key position players I think Abe Davis has a real shot at making it due to being able to play basically every position on the ground. Callum Mills is an obvious one and James Rose as well but other than that there's no real stand outs.

 

[Suma Magic]

Our midfield depth is shit. The rest, backline in particular, is quality.

 

[Kingfish73]

Have to be West coast and Hawthorn from last year. 2016 West Coast improved further where Hawthorn went backwards

 

[Jello_B]

More than one? Nah. VB, Grigg, Jaensch, Henderson, Atkins, Otten and Lyons have all shown themselves to be decent AFL players at stages. Otten the only one to not do so recently due to injury.

As for Port. Of those 7 the draw was pretty easy if you look at it; Essendon, Saints, GWS (who had tailed away late in the year), Gold Coast and a depleted Fremantle. Hawks the only decent win.

Agree with your second statement, but carn mate on your first.
Even the most bias crows supporter would not want most of that list getting games.

 

[Furn2]

I thought I would take a somewhat objective view, applying Supercoach scores as the 'best' indicator. Results below, but now wonder if they are at all valuable.

3300pts per game, 44 players = 75.0 points as true "Average"

Adelaide 4 (Sloane, Jacobs, Thompson, Laird)
Brisbane 8 (Beams, Martin, Rockliff, Zorko, Hanley, Redden, Robinson, Christensen)
Carlton 9 (Murphy, Cripps, Simpson, Kreuzer, Carazzo, Bell, Docherty, Graham, Curnow)
Collingwood 8 (Pendelbury, Sidebottom, Adams, Swan, Crisp, Grundy, Williams, Langdon)
Essendon 4 (Goddard, Giles, Hocking, Merrett)
Fremantle 8 (Fyfe, Mundy, Sandilands, Neale, Smith, Hill, Barlow, BENNELL)
Geelong 13 (Blicavs, Selwood, Enright, Guthrie, Caddy, Mackie, Duncan, Vardy, Motlop, Bartel, Johnson, Taylor, DANGERFIELD)
Hawthorn 5 (Hodge, Mitchell, Lewis, Gunston, Shiels)
Melbourne 8 (Vince, McDonald, Gawn, Viney, Cross, White, Hogan)
North Melbourne 2 (Goldstein, Higgins)
Port Adelaide 10 (Gray, Hartlett, Boak, Ebert, Wines, Gray, Wingard, Westhoff, Pittard, Ryder)
Richmond 12 (Deledio, Martin, Ellis, Edwards, Miles, Thomas, Cotchin, Rance, Houli, Maric, Riewoldt, Grigg)
St Kilda 7 (Armitage, Montagna, Steven, Newnes, Roberton, Riewoldt, Billings)
Sydney 8 (Hannebery, Kennedy, Jack, Parker, Mitchell, McVeigh, Franklin, Tippett)
Bulldogs 9 (Dalhaus, Bontempelli, Macrae, Wallis, Picken, Boyd, Stevens, Murphy, Wood)
Eagles 5 (Priddis, Gaff, Naitanui, Shuey, Kennedy)
GC 6 (Ablett, Prestia, Swallow, Rischitelli, Kolodashnij, Lynch, Saad)
GWS 11 (Shaw, Ward, Shiel, Treloar, Mumford, Smith, Griffen, Townsend, Patfull, Coniglio, Greene)

Seeing that list, it would appear the less players >75 average, the better the team, with both Grand Finalists right at the bottom, whilst Richmond, Geelong, GWS, Port and Carlton are near the top.

I counted 16 Hawks that averaged 75 or more SuperCoach points per game in 2015 and 13 Eagles.

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

I counted 16 Hawks that averaged 75 or more SuperCoach points per game in 2015 and 13 Eagles.

Yeah, I posted a little later on something screwy with the site, I couldn't replicate when I went back to check but too busy to do it all again.

Sorry.

 

[The 747]

west coast and hawthorn.

the way our backline played after losing brown and mackenzie was another level

Which level was this? Best defence in the league?

 

[Kwality]

Those saying Hawthorn are kidding themselves they hardly lose anyone to injury teams with injuries would have deeper lists hate to say it but teams like GWS and Collingwood are the teams with the deepest lists

What do the results of 2015 say about the GWS & Pies lists - so you are making assumptions about whole lists performing so much better in 2016, unless making the top 4 doesn't enter your calculations.

 

[Kwality]

Which level was this? Best defence in the league?

No, isn't it in the context of depth of the list - the eagles defensive unit/strategy covered the loss of tall defenders. I give coach Simpson credit.

 

[The 747]

No, isn't it in the context of depth of the list - the eagles defensive unit/strategy covered the loss of tall defenders. I give coach Simpson credit.

I was just picking on the phrase "another level". Thought the Eagles did very well to maintain a level given injuries.

 

[blueiris]

What do the results of 2015 say about the GWS & Pies lists - so you are making assumptions about whole lists performing so much better in 2016, unless making the top 4 doesn't enter your calculations.

My assumption is which teams have more cover in case of injuries both GWS and Collingwood stand out to me to be those teams it is just my opinion I don't think either team will make the top 4 this year

 

[ImCheatingToWin]

Those saying Hawthorn are kidding themselves they hardly lose anyone to injury

Not watched football for the last 3 years or so?

 

[RePete]

I'd be concerned if the crows had to go into a game with more than one of those players on the depth list in their 22.

Interestingly with your inaccurate statement regarding Port's 2015:
Port won 6 of its last 7 games, and it was at the end of the season where we were most hit by injuries (Carlile, Trengove, Wines, Polec). In those games, it was the depth players that stood up and had breakout games (Sam Gray, Ah Chee, Amon)
Additionally, we beat Hawks in round 4 without 2 of our best mids in Gray and Wines.
Port's depth isn't outstanding, but it's a heck of a lot better than your average punter thinks it is.

You didn't make the finals and were atrocious for most of the season with just 2-4 injuries on average for the year. Sam Gray I would be next to Mitchell as a player that can occasionally play really well, but for the most part is to flaky to be a best-22 player. Amon I don't rate at all, haven't seen anything I like about him. What other depth have you got? Young? Yuck! Toumpas? There is a reason Melbourne didn't want him.

If Port have a genuine bad run of injuries this year, as in 5-7 injuries they are absolutely screwed. Ontop of this no Ryder or Monfries reduces their depth further. Also if Lobbe goes down, do you even have a decent backup ruck? What if Schulz actually is a year to old and his output really does drop down. Who are you going to replace him with? Butcher?!??!....Frampton?!!?!

If Port do get unlucky with injuries, not even your easy draw will save you.

 

[Hawkk]

Those saying Hawthorn are kidding themselves they hardly lose anyone to injury teams with injuries would have deeper lists hate to say it but teams like GWS and Collingwood are the teams with the deepest lists

Haha lol

Care to roll through our 2014/15 injury list? The Lions side of 2002/03 would have missed the finals in consecutive seasons if they had an equivalent list

 

[actiongreggars]

You didn't make the finals and were atrocious for most of the season with just 2-4 injuries on average for the year. Sam Gray I would be next to Mitchell as a player that can occasionally play really well, but for the most part is to flaky to be a best-22 player. Amon I don't rate at all, haven't seen anything I like about him. What other depth have you got? Young? Yuck! Toumpas? There is a reason Melbourne didn't want him.

If Port have a genuine bad run of injuries this year, as in 5-7 injuries they are absolutely screwed. Ontop of this no Ryder or Monfries reduces their depth further. Also if Lobbe goes down, do you even have a decent backup ruck? What if Schulz actually is a year to old and his output really does drop down. Who are you going to replace him with? Butcher?!??!....Frampton?!!?!

If Port do get unlucky with injuries, not even your easy draw will save you.

I would suggest every team would struggle with 5-7 injuries, especially to key players. Who are the crows depth players if Walker and Jacobs succumb to injury.

 

[ClintEastwood]

I'd be concerned if the crows had to go into a game with more than one of those players on the depth list in their 22.

Interestingly with your inaccurate statement regarding Port's 2015:
Port won 6 of its last 7 games, and it was at the end of the season where we were most hit by injuries (Carlile, Trengove, Wines, Polec). In those games, it was the depth players that stood up and had breakout games (Sam Gray, Ah Chee, Amon)
Additionally, we beat Hawks in round 4 without 2 of our best mids in Gray and Wines.
Port's depth isn't outstanding, but it's a heck of a lot better than your average punter thinks it is.

Yes, but never let facts get in the way of a good story. It really is entertaining seeing crowies crow up every time someone pumps Port up a bit.

 

[smeltitdeltit]

What do you mean know much about football why because I don't agree with the sheep that say Hawthorn have the deepest list pretty sure GWS and Collingwood would have more depth players then Hawthorn

You believe in the Hawks having depth clearly as much as your belief in puntiation.

 

[Farang83150]

You believe in the Hawks having depth clearly as much as your belief in puntiation.

What?

 

[Kwality]

My assumption is which teams have more cover in case of injuries both GWS and Collingwood stand out to me to be those teams it is just my opinion I don't think either team will make the top 4 this year

Battling to understand how squads that are not capable of challenging for the flag can be considered to have depth, e.g GWS have enormous upside, lots of kids who might make it, depth nah!

I hope GWS have a good year in 2016.