Do Collingwood need to enter a rebuild phase?

[doppleganger]

I didn't want to rule out Maxine's on Sydney Road.

What is Maxine's tipping point?

 

[WillHayward]

What is Maxine's tipping point?

The age profile of some of the key performers is concerning.
They wouldn't want to lose them all at the same time.
Probably time to hit the draft.

 

[doppleganger]

The age profile of some of the key performers is concerning.
They wouldn't want to lose them all at the same time.
Probably time to hit the draft.

Maxine's have a new performer who some have described as the GOAT.

Supposedly brings out a special double act from time to time (September popular) where team up with the old veterans that has won a few awards.

Exciting times ahead for the Maxine punters

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Nah your triggered HARD

Trying to deal with finally looking down tha barrel of long term sh!tness is daunting
Pies have proven time and time again they dont stay down for long and wont spend 4-6 years on the bottom

Agreed, the formerly mighty Eagles are now as soft as jelly, threw the toys out of the cot during covid and never recovered

They could go the same way as University and Fitzroy if they don't harden up

 

[Obeanie1]

As expected neutrals are still going with list is the be all and end all. Zero or 100, nothing in between.

'The quality won't be replaced', no it won't, but you're all forgetting is that this club is a system based club that is less 'personnel' reliant than other clubs.

We've brought in supposed spuds since our disastrous fire sale of covid years, for example, Brought in Cameron, lost Grundy.

So after 2021, the cliff was meant to swallow the club, can the neutrals please explain what happened? How did we flag after falling off that cliff?

A system based game plan and list but 25% of the tream will not be there in 12 months. And it isn't the bottom 25%.

In 2021 those players who are about to retire end of 2026 were 5 years younger. And still had good football left in them.

That's the difference.

 

[Obeanie1]

Nah your triggered HARD

Trying to deal with finally looking down tha barrel of long term sh!tness is daunting
Pies have proven time and time again they dont stay down for long and wont spend 4-6 years on the bottom

Pies have stayed up longer than most can.

No denying that. Always in the hunt for free agents or trades.

Eagles refresh via the draft and seem to hit gold every 11 to 12 years. No shame in that.

Prior to the three peat Richmond spent how long in the wilderness? A long...loooong time.

And now Tigers are rebuilding again with an unproven coach and the previous premiership building President plus premiership coach, both top operators No longer there.

Not sure where this confidence in rebuilding comes from.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

A system based game plan and list but 25% of the tream will not be there in 12 months. And it isn't the bottom 25%.

In 2021 those players who are about to retire end of 2026 were 5 years younger. And still had good football left in them.

That's the difference.

25% of 23 (the team) is (5.75) between 5-6 players. So which 5 to 6 players will be gone by 2027?
Here is my best 23 with oldies at the top;

Pendlebury (1 year contract)
Sidebottom (1 year)
Howe (1 year)
Elliott (2 year contract)
Membrey (1 year)
Crisp (1 year)
DeGoey (2 years)
Cameron (4 years)
Moore (3 years)
Maynard (4 years)
Houston (5 years)
Frampton (1 year)
J Daicos (4 years)
N Daicos (5 years)
Long (2 years)
Perryman (5 years)
McStay (2 years)
Hill (5 years)
Schultz (2 years)
McCreery (2 years)
Buller (2 years)
Lipinski (2 years)
Quaynor (3 years)

 

[Mynamesinuse]

25% of 23 (the team) is (5.75) between 5-6 players. So which 5 to 6 players will be gone by 2027?
Here is my best 23 with oldies at the top;

Pendlebury (1 year contract)
Sidebottom (1 year)
Howe (1 year)
Elliott (2 year contract)
Membrey (1 year)
Crisp (1 year)
DeGoey (2 years)
Cameron (4 years)
Moore (3 years)
Maynard (4 years)
Houston (5 years)
Frampton (1 year)
J Daicos (4 years)
N Daicos (5 years)
Long (2 years)
Perryman (5 years)
McStay (2 years)
Hill (5 years)
Schultz (2 years)
McCreery (2 years)
Buller (2 years)
Lipinski (2 years)
Quaynor (3 years)

Short of key position players and no injury cover.

 

[Robroy22]

Short of key position players and no injury cover.

Who are? St Kilda or Collingwood?

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

Short of key position players and no injury cover.

Key backs Moore Frampton (Howe and Maynard can also play tall if required)
Key forwards McStay, Buller and Membrey (sort of but plays tall)

I posted a best 23 so I didn't include injury cover but here is some

McInnes (was preferred early last year over Frampton and is back to full training from an ACL)(KPB)

Steele mid season pick up who played 5 games late in 2025 and looked good on the wing

Parker Cat B hbf who played late last year and looked good.

Harrison has now come back from an ACL. Was a solid small forward at AFL level and has great speed and endurance.

Allan played about 13 games last year mostly off the wing. Can play hbf or midfield.

West KPF dominated VFL as an 18 year old last year despite struggling a bit with a foot injury, playing 1 AFL game.

 

[Mynamesinuse]

Key backs Moore Frampton (Howe and Maynard can also play tall if required)
Key forwards McStay, Buller and Membrey (sort of but plays tall)

I posted a best 23 so I didn't include injury cover but here is some

McInnes (was preferred early last year over Frampton and is back to full training from an ACL)(KPB)

Steele mid season pick up who played 5 games late in 2025 and looked good on the wing

Parker Cat B hbf who played late last year and looked good.

Harrison has now come back from an ACL. Was a solid small forward at AFL level and has great speed and endurance.

Allan played about 13 games last year mostly off the wing. Can play hbf or midfield.

West KPF dominated VFL as an 18 year old last year despite struggling a bit with a foot injury, playing 1 AFL game.

So god forbid Daicos went down for an extended period

Daicos
Long
Perryman

 

[Carringbush2010]

A system based game plan and list but 25% of the tream will not be there in 12 months. And it isn't the bottom 25%.

In 2021 those players who are about to retire end of 2026 were 5 years younger. And still had good football left in them.

That's the difference.

Re read the post you replied to again.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

So god forbid Daicos went down for an extended period

Probably the only sensible post you've made in this thread

We'd be very average without Daics for an extended period

But, as with any injury, gives someone else a chance to step up and develop

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

So god forbid Daicos went down for an extended period

Daicos
Long
Perryman

Pendlebury
Sidebottom
McCreery
J Daicos
Crisp
Sullivan

Would be a big loss but the above all can play midfield and have for us last year. So it's not like we dont have quality that can play there.

 

[Mynamesinuse]

Pendlebury
Sidebottom
McCreery
J Daicos
Crisp
Sullivan

Would be a big loss but the above all can play midfield and have for us last year. So it's not like we dont have quality that can play there.

Like to think there’s a young mid smashing the door down

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

Like to think there’s a young mid smashing the door down

McCreery did well with a very good centre bounce clearance record for limited time. We recruited 3 this year so hopefully we can add a few soon.
But agree it will be an issue after Pendlebury Sidebottom and Crisp retire if we cant find a couple good ones in the next few years.

 

[Robroy22]

So god forbid Daicos went down for an extended period

Daicos
Long
Perryman

or NAS?

 

[Mynamesinuse]

or NAS?

More cover for him although losing the best player going into 2026 wouldn’t be ideal.

 

[THE_GUN]

Pies have stayed up longer than most can.

No denying that. Always in the hunt for free agents or trades.

Eagles refresh via the draft and seem to hit gold every 11 to 12 years. No shame in that.

Prior to the three peat Richmond spent how long in the wilderness? A long...loooong time.

And now Tigers are rebuilding again with an unproven coach and the previous premiership building President plus premiership coach, both top operators No longer there.

Not sure where this confidence in rebuilding comes from.

Maybe have a look at the bottom of my post
Richmond won 8 premierships in 54 years in my life time

Not many clubs have had that type of success
But that has nothing to do with it and we can only talk about the current

Currently the collingwood football club will still be in contention to win a premiership and they always find a way to stay up there and not stay down for more than a couple of years. where the eagles have already been rebuilding for 4 years and last year just 1 win. That is absolutely shocking

 

[Robroy22]

More cover for him although losing the best player going into 2026 wouldn’t be ideal.

Cover for NAS should be interesting.....care to illuminate us all?
But yes losing StKilda's best player for 2026 would be unfortunate....and something I'd never wish on any club (even if I was trying to incite others to heap rubbish on said club)

 

[Mynamesinuse]

Cover for NAS should be interesting.....care to illuminate us all?
But yes losing StKilda's best player for 2026 would be unfortunate....and something I'd never wish on any club (even if I was trying to incite others to heap rubbish on said club)

Why would anyone want that.
Merely pointing out the holes in an aging list.

 

[Robroy22]

Why would anyone want that.
Merely pointing out the holes in an aging list.

Oh you're pointing out something alright....let's see: Bias, jealousy, disillusionment in ones own team's performance over a long period of time, failure to look into ones own team lest it prove a further disappointment, a lack of balanced and factual research, all rolled up into an in depth "opinion" about a club you actually know very little about (other than what the shock jocks on SEN peddle)

Each to their own club eh?

 

[Mynamesinuse]

Oh you're pointing out something alright....let's see: Bias, jealousy, disillusionment in ones own team's performance over a long period of time, failure to look into ones own team lest it prove a further disappointment, a lack of balanced and factual research, all rolled up into an in depth "opinion" about a club you actually know very little about (other than what the shock jocks on SEN peddle)

Each to their own club eh?

Thread is do Collingwood need to rebuild.
Not what other clubs need to do.

 

[Robroy22]

Thread is do Collingwood need to rebuild.
Not what other clubs need to do.

No...it would never be about what other clubs need to do, no fun in that I'm guessing.
(for a Sainter masquerading as a Bomber just so he/she can keep on bashing away at a club that's finished above them again and again)

Woe be tied anyone be up for a thoughtful discussion about the list builds of all clubs in the competition and the various ways those lists have been compiled and how those lists have performed over a period of time, because this "thread" (as is the want of so many other firestarter thread builders) has been carefully aimed at one of two conclusions.

Either you don't like CFC's list and determine to belittle its content or its potential (seems a bit strange to do to a side that's been there or there abouts in each of the 4 years under the current administration)

or you think CFC is doing a reasonable job in an 18/19 team national competition that has in built levers that attempt to equalise the competition, therefore reinforcing the club's direction and congratulating them for their sturdy performances over the past 4 years.

Simple isn't it?

Haters gonna hate.

 

[Mynamesinuse]

No...it would never be about what other clubs need to do, no fun in that I'm guessing.
(for a Sainter masquerading as a Bomber just so he/she can keep on bashing away at a club that's finished above them again and again)

Woe be tied anyone be up for a thoughtful discussion about the list builds of all clubs in the competition and the various ways those lists have been compiled and how those lists have performed over a period of time, because this "thread" (as is the want of so many other firestarter thread builders) has been carefully aimed at one of two conclusions.

Either you don't like CFC's list and determine to belittle its content or its potential (seems a bit strange to do to a side that's been there or there abouts in each of the 4 years under the current administration)

or you think CFC is doing a reasonable job in an 18/19 team national competition that has in built levers that attempt to equalise the competition, therefore reinforcing the club's direction and congratulating them for their sturdy performances over the past 4 years.

Simple isn't it?

Haters gonna hate.

The thread is Collingwood.
It’s about Collingwood.