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Yeah you do always have to ask “progress towards what?”

I haven’t seen the magical 10 values they’ve measured in the study.
No me neither. Have seen it tweeted by people who are pretty reliable at checking the authenticity of what they retweet. But haven't looked into it myself. It passes the sniff test for being 100% ******** for mine but of course it's only a graph. The real info is in the methodology and analysis which requires nuance.
 

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Did you stop to think that US political values in 1994 were quite right-leaning across the board? And that while their Democratic voters have adopted more liberal values, their Republican voters today are stuck in the last century?
Nothing wrong with that.

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"liberal values". Humour.
 

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I've got no time for the demonisation and catastrophising of the "other team" that happens so much these days.
The sadly neglected verb, to catastrophise. Though, spell check doesn't like it. As usual, it thinks it should contain a 'z'.
 

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No me neither. Have seen it tweeted by people who are pretty reliable at checking the authenticity of what they retweet. But haven't looked into it myself. It passes the sniff test for being 100% ******** for mine but of course it's only a graph. The real info is in the methodology and analysis which requires nuance.
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I'm pretty comfortable with the liberal values. Still shocking that 1 in 3 Republican voters think homosexuality should be discouraged. Like that never hurt anyone.
 

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I'm pretty comfortable with the liberal values. Still shocking that 1 in 3 Republican voters think homosexuality should be discouraged. Like that never hurt anyone.
On a downward trend which is great. Also interesting to note the recent trends towards 50/50 splits in both parties regarding government being wasteful. Would be very interesting to see how the two different points of view are shifting to that position.
 

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Why would anyone take offence to something like “the sky is blue, and other colours at different times of day and year”?

What is the standard for “offence”?
The "standard" will vary from one person to the next won't it? For example if I was to say that religion in it's endth degree is homophobic because it views homosexuality as a sin well then someone (and probably a lot more) are going take offence aren't they? Even though many would view that is a reasonable statement (unless you're someone like Folau) and the intent is not to offend.
 

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If you want to take it to there, sure. The point was one side has created the gulf between parties and moved the median. Classical liberals/conservatives that were once considered centre left/centre are now deemed far right because of that swing. It's a different argument altogether if you feel that the left has better values etc.

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Also, note that Republicans have actually moved to the right.
 

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I'm pretty comfortable with the liberal values. Still shocking that 1 in 3 Republican voters think homosexuality should be discouraged. Like that never hurt anyone.
Typical democrats..."government can't afford to do much more"

Holding their hand out. "give us free schooling, raise our wages, give us money so we don't have to work and can get paid to enjoy hobbies like pottery and art...:drunk:"
 

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Typical democrats..."government can't afford to do much more"

Holding their hand out. "give us free schooling, raise our wages, give us money so we don't have to work and can get paid to enjoy hobbies like pottery and art...:drunk:"

And that's not even mentioning the federal money pit that is the military.
 

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Typical democrats..."government can't afford to do much more"

Holding their hand out. "give us free schooling, raise our wages, give us money so we don't have to work and can get paid to enjoy hobbies like pottery and art...:drunk:"
Where are you getting these generalisations? Why do you think we want to hear them?
 

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You speak for everyone? Not surprised that a leftist would want to suppress free speech. It's all the rage.
Why do you think we want to hear the boring little generalisations you recycle from your YouTube binges?

What do you think it adds to anyone's understanding of anything?

I can't see that repeating this guff over and over again adds anything.

Is it just that you want to virtue signal to that weird strata of Australian society that truly thinks they really will vote in an American election one day? That can empathise with a Brexit leave voter but can't empathise with a caged refugee?

If so, there's a board for that. I can give you the link.
 

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Why do you think we want to hear the boring little generalisations you recycle from your YouTube binges?

What do you think it adds to anyone's understanding of anything?

I can't see that repeating this guff over and over again adds anything.

Is it just that you want to virtue signal to that weird strata of Australian society that truly thinks they really will vote in an American election one day? That can empathise with a Brexit leave voter but can't empathise with a caged refugee?

If so, there's a board for that. I can give you the link.
Can you sympathise with the women that are trafficked over the border and those that are assaulted/raped before and after they cross. The figures that highlight the children brought in with "parents" don't even belong to them 80% of the time. The US citizens that are homeless and neglected in favour of people that aren't even from that country. Those cages that were set up by the Obama administration.

You can virtue signal all you want and claim the high ground but there are figures that go against your CNN, MSNBC, and WaPo views/reads.
 

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Can you sympathise with the women that are trafficked over the border and those that are assaulted/raped before and after they cross.
The US citizens that are homeless and neglected in favour of people that aren't even from that country.
When virtue signalling goes wrong.
 
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