Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

[cats_09]

Yep, this is making an appearance here also, and probably getting more useful as the season draws to a close and this discussion ramps up

 

[Grimoz]

Nah, he's too young for free agency. He'll only be 24 next year.

This is just Tim Kelly 2.0. Either get the deal done this year because you know he's leaving anyway, or roll the dice and depending on form get more or less for him next year.

Sorry I meant out of contract not Free Agent

 

[Grimoz]

Todd Goldstein has chosen a move to Essendon as an unrestricted free agent, The Age’s Michael Gleeson reports.

Goldstein is out of contract at North Melbourne, where he has played 315 games. The Bombers and Collingwood were the two front runners for Goldstein’s services, with the 35-year-old seemingly settling on the former.

Report: Goldstein settles on preferred club to join as free agent

The North Melbourne veteran has made up his mind, according to a report in The Age.

www.sen.com.au

How bizarre - why doesn't he go to the Pies and try to chase a flag?

I know he was trying to get a 2 year deal somewhere, maybe the dons offered that.

 

[Grimoz]

There is more of an age gap with Flynn though.
Gawn more likely to be injured as he gets older.
If I was Flynn I think Geelong would be a reasonable destination, I would at least be adjung Jezza his opinion on my prospects of playing if I move to Geelong.

Whats Cameron got to do with it? If we were interested then we would have made a pitch for him but we obviously arent interested in any rucks

 

[moond0g]

Not interested, even if we get a first rounder out of it ?

Maybe, but GWS won’t do that. They’ll just cop the years salary and delist him next year. Unless they’re chasing someone this year that they require cap space to land, there’s no reason to throw away a first rounder.

There a few differences with the bowes situation which I think mean he just stays and plays out most of next year in the VFL.

 

[moond0g]

Sorry I meant out of contract not Free Agent

Didn’t the AFLPA float reducing the length of stay to qualify as a FA? If we’re lucky enough for that to come into effect next season we could make out like bandits.

 

[#6 Thorp #7 Selwood LOL]

Smoke and fire me thinks.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Seems that Flynn doesn't look that likely to get a regular game anywhere in the AFL at this point, unless injuries intervene. So following the money probably does seem like a reasonable option.

He would regularly get games at wce surely.

 

[goyoucatters]

He would regularly get games at wce surely.

You could be right. Maybe the idea of living on the other side of the country just doesn't appeal? Or is he not interested in playing for a club whose relevance is likely to be low for a couple of seasons yet?

EDIT: Report I've just read suggests he's happy heading off to the Weagles. So that potentially makes sense, if he is keen on senior footy.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I remember a few years ago we were linked to Haynes, which none of us believed.

Would we be interested in taking him and 3/4 of his salary and pick 15
We give up a fr2 or 3

Looking forward to how the footy world with contracts and trade is starting to evolve

I think a few oppo fans would just mentally implode

 

[Grimoz]

Melbourne making offer for Flynn smacks of a big **** you to Grundy, if I was Flynn id be staying away.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Constable has retired. Go well chook.

 

[Turbocat]

.. More Irish guys on the horizon

Roos target pick one, Dee to go on, big Dog to stay

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

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FOUR CLUBS TRIAL IRISH TALENTS

ESSENDON, Richmond, Geelong and Hawthorn will host the four Irish prospects for trials this week ahead of their testing at the AFL Draft Combine.

The AFL has brought out four talents – James McLaughlin, Eoin McElholm, Odran Murdock and Conor Corbett – to trial at clubs and also take part in the three-day Combine later this week.

The players were at the Bombers on Monday, with trials also to take place at the Tigers, Cats and Hawks through the week before the Combine commences on Friday at the Melbourne Park and MCG precinct.



Eoin McElholm (inset) and a general scene at the National Draft Combine. Pictures: AFL Photos/X
Corbett is a 192cm star at Gaelic level, while McLaughlin is a sports all-rounder having played basketball, soccer, golf and Gaelic rules. McElholm is renowned for his speed, while Murdock is the standout player from his county, with all chasing an AFL contract.

The AFL's venture back into the Irish scene has seen Carlton sign two players – Rob Monahan and Matt Duffy – as category B rookies already, while St Kilda listed Liam O’Connell recently as well.

It also follows the AFL Grand Final, where Irishman Conor McKenna played for the Lions and American Mason Cox

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Mason Cox

Age

34

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

became a premiership player with Collingwood. – Callum Twomey

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

ESSENDON, Richmond, Geelong and Hawthorn will host the four Irish prospects for trials this week ahead of their testing at the AFL Draft Combine.

The AFL has brought out four talents – James McLaughlin, Eoin McElholm, Odran Murdock and Conor Corbett – to trial at clubs and also take part in the three-day Combine later this week.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

CHAWKTS hey was it you saying we chatting one of these guys? Was it Mcgaughlin?

 

[Turbocat]

I think the there is some bargains to be had if we can be patient and wait for next year. After seeing the under 17s game on Saturday I'm even more convinced about waiting for next year. If we were one or two spots higher this year it would be different, but I just think we miss the top echelon unfortunately.

I would try

Pick 7 and FR2 to Richmond for pick 26 and FR1. (Richmond more likely to want Caddy than us)

Ratagolea and 26 to Port for 38 and FR1

Gives us 3 1st round picks in 2024 which opens up all kinds of options in a better draft and with some higher quality players potentially on the market.

If we are into Bailey Smith next year .. and perhaps Cadman ... and we like the draft ...we will need 5 r1 picks...


Be nice if we could work out a way to get into the North 2024 picks ... sounds like they are going to throw a lot at WCoast to tempt them for their P1. That last win against the Suns could become very costly

 

[StonedCat]

Comes with a Chiko roll, and the accompanying motorcycle poster with the chick in it...

I had that poster in my garage back in the day

 

[MacStradbroke]

Still nothing definitive in terms of a public comment by the player. There's been speculation that "Smith said this and Smith said that" but no specific public comment I've seen that's come straight from the players mouth. The only comment is from Paul Connors who said "he expected Smith to be at the Bulldogs in 2024" .......coming from a player manager, that has about as much substance as invisible toilet paper.

If the media are sniffing around and the player has not yet come out with a definitive "I'm staying" then I think there's clearly a chance a deal gets done this year. And we won't hear boo until right at the end of trade period where his manager comes out and says "his player has had a rethink and thinks that a change of environment would be the best thing for his mental health" ..... blah blah blah.

I think even the most bullish Bulldogs fans accepts that Smith is more than likely gone the year after, so why not take a better deal now whilst in contract and just move on. No one wants a bloke playing at the club is he's not completely on board ......and based on the speculation about Smith's relationship with the coach, and a few other snippets about being played out of position, I think bailey Smith is far from on board at the kennel.

And let's not forget Bevo's stunt where he said Smith was "unwell" and couldn't play against Geelong. Too easy to join the dots I reckon and we've seen it with player trades so many times previously.

Smoke and fire me thinks.

What did Smith say in that interview on Channel 7 last week? Didn’t see it but surely he was repeatedly asked.

 

[CatRiot]

Bews is 29 years old (will play next year at age 30). At that age he more than likely bounces back after an injury-plagued 2023. We shouldn’t be throwing dirt on his grave just yet.

He had a very interrupted preseason, if he can get full fitness this offseason, he will be a different player for us for probably 2 years imho, unless he has lost some pace.

Yes I think we can put as good a starting 22 out there as any side come round one. Big questions are where do the magnets best go on the board, and how much luck do we get to consistently put our "best 22" out there?

We need a few to develop and step up over summer - but the same goes for most clubs. We know what we get from Guthrie / Danger - Hawkins - Cameron - Stewart ..... and that core group (and their availability) will determine much of our fortunes for next year. But it's that developing group of De Koning - Holmes - Bruhn - Henry - Clark that will determine how far we go next year.

Throw in surprise from a Neale or Conway (remember De Koning and Stengle last year) and that's the difference between top 8 or top 4. My personal view is that with most of the above falling into place - its then something like a Bailey Smith or "Mystery Mid" type deal that sees us genuinely contending.

Sportsbet has us 8th in line on the betting for 2024 paying a juicy $15. Sell a kidney / sell your car / steal your grandmothers favourite necklace .... if we get a bit more luck than we did this year we'll be in it up to our eyeballs.

If we are talking betting, then Betfair has us at 15.5-1, but you can probably put a Back Order at 19.5-1 and someone will match. Tbh, we drop the first game or two, and I can see our Odds going to 24-1 or even as high as 36-1 in the first couple of rounds of the season.

 

[Jumping Jack]

What did Smith say in that interview on Channel 7 last week? Didn’t see it but surely he was repeatedly asked.

Not sure - didn’t see it. I find that anytime I watch anything AFL related on Ch7 a part of me dies.

For that reason I don’t tune in if I can avoid it.


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[CatRiot]

I had that poster in my garage back in the day

So did my Uncle, who had a Harley. He also still has his mullet, and kept his mullet strong from the 1980s right through to this day. Harley and Commodore SS still in the garage... Shhhh!

 

[Kobe Gryant]

If we are into Bailey Smith next year .. and perhaps Cadman ... and we like the draft ...we will need 5 r1 picks...


Be nice if we could work out a way to get into the North 2024 picks ... sounds like they are going to throw a lot at WCoast to tempt them for their P1. That last win against the Suns could become very costly

It's why I reckon we'll push to get Smith done this year. 7 & the Sav pick or something like that.

We've got JUH, Cadman, Butters & Smith (if we don't get him this year) on our radar for 2024.

You'd think we can only bring in two in one off-season at a maximum. It's a ridiculous amount of draft capital/quality players.

 

[Vdubs]

Todd Goldstein has chosen a move to Essendon as an unrestricted free agent, The Age’s Michael Gleeson reports.

Goldstein is out of contract at North Melbourne, where he has played 315 games. The Bombers and Collingwood were the two front runners for Goldstein’s services, with the 35-year-old seemingly settling on the former.

Report: Goldstein settles on preferred club to join as free agent

The North Melbourne veteran has made up his mind, according to a report in The Age.

www.sen.com.au

How bizarre - why doesn't he go to the Pies and try to chase a flag?

See the Bombers fly UP....UP
They are on the way up.
With the evenness of the comp, and several injured players available, they could surprise next year

 

[Vdubs]

Constable has retired. Go well chook.

Agree.
re JUH, do you think there is ANY possible chance we could nab him in the near future?
That would be a bigger get than JC.
Where do these stories come from.
Dogs could NOT afford to lose him.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

See the Bombers fly UP....UP
They are on the way up.
With the evenness of the comp, and several injured players available, they could surprise next year

Heard it every year for 20 years. Just gonna have to see it to believe it.

At least the Blues hype will finally be built on something of a bit of substance. Bombers aren't even at that stage yet.

 

[Finknottle]

Constable has retired. Go well chook.

Captained the Gold Coast Suns' VFL team to a premiership. Hard working player.