GWS cunning blindside?

[Mismatched]

They blindsided themselves by ignoring the much much better player in tex

No they identified a player who was a) quality and b) likely to move.

Tex always wanted to stay at the Crows, he grew up supporting us and had more connections with Adelaide than Sydney, a fact that the likes of Rhett Biglands failed to realise when they decided to make up bullshit rumours about Tex leaving.

The only reason Tex was going to move was if he didn't get a fair run. He was always more likely to stay at the Crows, GWS realised this and on the flip side had an interested player in Davis who was also extremely highly rated.

 

[cmndstab]

No they identified a player who was a) quality and b) likely to move.

Tex always wanted to stay at the Crows, he grew up supporting us and had more connections with Adelaide than Sydney, a fact that the likes of Rhett Biglands failed to realise when they decided to make up bullshit rumours about Tex leaving.

The only reason Tex was going to move was if he didn't get a fair run. He was always more likely to stay at the Crows, GWS realised this and on the flip side had an interested player in Davis who was also extremely highly rated.

Let's be fair to Rhett, he did reduce his "100% certainty" down to "98% certainty" after he thought about it for a while

 

[Bob Neil]

Was chatting to a mate yesterday regarding this, he thinks Adelaide would receive an end of first round pick, absolute joke, Has to be within the first 10. GWS will get 4 years of a gun mid.

We're not getting a gun mid now! Why would you think they'll get four years of one??

 

[Sanders]

Was chatting to a mate yesterday regarding this, he thinks Adelaide would receive an end of first round pick, absolute joke, Has to be within the first 10. GWS will get 4 years of a gun mid.

We've not gotten a gun year out of him THIS year

 

[Sanders]

No they identified a player who was a) quality and b) likely to move.

Tex always wanted to stay at the Crows, he grew up supporting us and had more connections with Adelaide than Sydney, a fact that the likes of Rhett Biglands failed to realise when they decided to make up bullshit rumours about Tex leaving.

The only reason Tex was going to move was if he didn't get a fair run. He was always more likely to stay at the Crows, GWS realised this and on the flip side had an interested player in Davis who was also extremely highly rated.

Say what?

The walker who only signed a 1 yr extension to keep his options open?

You crazy bro

 

[FR0GGY]

We've not gotten a gun year out of him THIS year

spud gun

 

[Allefgib]

Why haven't we re-signed him.?
Taken tippets cash and extended him with a frontloaded contract to see his career out with us?

 

[Sanders]

Why haven't we re-signed him.?
Taken tippets cash and extended him with a frontloaded contract to see his career out with us?

If this is the first year of his decline maybe we don't want to sign up to a long term contract

 

[maxlilly]

Why haven't we re-signed him.?
Taken tippets cash and extended him with a frontloaded contract to see his career out with us?

Yes, thats the big question.
Along with Porps not being signed, you would think they would sign those two early.
And then strangely they gave Reilly a two year extension.
I cant work out why Thommo & Porps haven't been signed but Reilly has ??

 

[Glenno23]

Fletcher is closing in on 50 isn't he?! Plenty of time left.

JK, I agree, 2 years max. I still think we'll get an end of first round pick for him.

Fletch also plays a very non contact position compared to an inside mid like Thommo. Thommo has taken many more hits, which will wear his body down quicker

Its also a reason why Boomer is still going. He was never inside. He was always an outside runner, not getting as much contact as the heavy duty guys do

We can still get a good year or 2 out of Thommo though IMO. Just need to get him injury free. He's not 26 years old anymore. He can't carry an injury like he used to be. I reckon they're gonna let him have his 200th this week and then put him in cotton wool after we lose

We then have Freo over here the week after which we have only a minute chance of winning, so our season is over. Mathematically and all

Wrap him up, get him ready for 2014 where he can mentor guys like Crouch and Lyons

 

[Draft Bored]

Fletch also plays a very non contact position compared to an inside mid like Thommo. Thommo has taken many more hits, which will wear his body down quicker

Its also a reason why Boomer is still going. He was never inside. He was always an outside runner, not getting as much contact as the heavy duty guys do

We can still get a good year or 2 out of Thommo though IMO. Just need to get him injury free. He's not 26 years old anymore. He can't carry an injury like he used to be. I reckon they're gonna let him have his 200th this week and then put him in cotton wool after we lose

We then have Freo over here the week after which we have only a minute chance of winning, so our season is over. Mathematically and all

Wrap him up, get him ready for 2014 where he can mentor guys like Crouch and Lyons

Fletch comment was a joke. I would never expect anyone to play to his age regardless of their position. He is a freak.

I liked this post until the last line. I would be claiming his form has been 100% injury related, applying cotton wool for the rest of the year and hoping GWS make an offer. I don't think Sheedy is stupid enough though. He made a really good point during the week:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-19/giants-wavering-on-megatrade

 

[swanfan]

Let's be fair to Rhett, he did reduce his "100% certainty" down to "98% certainty" after he thought about it for a while

He never fully recovered from that Pickett hit

 

[Glenno23]

Fletch comment was a joke. I would never expect anyone to play to his age regardless of their position. He is a freak.

I liked this post until the last line. I would be claiming his form has been 100% injury related, applying cotton wool for the rest of the year and hoping GWS make an offer. I don't think Sheedy is stupid enough though. He made a really good point during the week:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-19/giants-wavering-on-megatrade

I know his form is injury related. That's why we need to get his body 100% right before pre season so he can have 1 more big year for us and teach the young guys how to do it

Let him get away from the club, have surgery if needed and come back fresh as a daisy

 

[Draft Bored]

Let him get away from the club, have surgery if needed and we'll get daisy

Fixed.

I know what you mean but I have a feeling the crows are going to go another way. I could very well be wrong though.

 

[Vader]

Yes, thats the big question.
Along with Porps not being signed, you would think they would sign those two early.
And then strangely they gave Reilly a two year extension.
I cant work out why Thommo & Porps haven't been signed but Reilly has ??

Probably because this pair are getting towards the end of their careers and they wanted to see how they played out the season before making any decisions? Reilly is younger than Thommo and didn't have any history of injury problems, prior to his current shoulder injury. Porps on the other hand has had issues with his shoulders for years.. and we've all seen how badly Thompson has slowed down this year.

I don't understand why people are getting all upset about this. As long as they get the contracts done, what does it matter whether it happens in October or March?

 

[1970crow]

Lyons is not now, nor will he ever be, a "ready made replacement" for Thompson. He's not that calibre of player. He's good - but Thompson is an AA player, the gap is massive.

Crouch, on the other hand, probably does have the scope to take Thompson's mantle.. but he needs time to develop. He's not "ready made" - he needs another couple of years before he'll be "ready made". He'll get there, but you can't expect him to step straight in as a 19yo kid, replacing a 30yo AA midfielder like Thompson.

iPhone so it's hard to bold the important Part. The gap was massive, but it's not right now. See, vader, that's the thing with form, sons players have it, others don't. We shouldn't select players based on their last 200 games as opposed to what they can contribute in their next. Once you understand this, you will understand where the 'mob' is coming from.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Let's be fair to Rhett, he did reduce his "100% certainty" down to "98% certainty" after he thought about it for a while

Biglands was rarely certain which way we were kicking

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Lyons is not now, nor will he ever be, a "ready made replacement" for Thompson. He's not that calibre of player. He's good - but Thompson is an AA player, the gap is massive.

This is Lyons 3rd season on an AFL list.

So far this season, with 7 games to go:
6 games
17.0 disposals
2.7 marks
2.8 tackles
5 goals

Scott Thompson's 3rd season as a comparison:
13 games
12.8 disposals
2.6 marks
2.5 tackles
5 goals

 

[AFC979810]

This is Lyons 3rd season on an AFL list.

So far this season, with 7 games to go:
6 games
17.0 disposals
2.7 marks
2.8 tackles
5 goals

Scott Thompson's 3rd season as a comparison:
13 games
12.8 disposals
2.6 marks
2.5 tackles
5 goals

We all know that in year 3 on AFL list Scotty Thompson's biceps were much bigger than Lyons will ever be.

 

[Bacon8]

This is Lyons 3rd season on an AFL list.

So far this season, with 7 games to go:
6 games
17.0 disposals
2.7 marks
2.8 tackles
5 goals

Scott Thompson's 3rd season as a comparison:
13 games
12.8 disposals
2.6 marks
2.5 tackles
5 goals

I dont understand why you are using thommo's first 3 years stats.

A "ready-made replacement" replaces current output.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I dont understand why you are using thommo's first 3 years stats.

A "ready-made replacement" replaces current output.

Because the comment was about how "nor will Lyons ever be" a replacement for Thommo

 

[Vader]

iPhone so it's hard to bold the important Part. The gap was massive, but it's not right now. See, vader, that's the thing with form, sons players have it, others don't. We shouldn't select players based on their last 200 games as opposed to what they can contribute in their next. Once you understand this, you will understand where the 'mob' is coming from.

You're making a comparison to a Thompson who is clearly playing with an injury and who is a pale shadow of his usual self, operating at barely 60% of his usual capacity. Lyons has exceeded expectations, and is still short of 60% Thompson - he's nowhere near the standard that Thompson normally plays to.

 

[Vader]

Because the comment was about how "nor will Lyons ever be" a replacement for Thommo

I'm not attacking Lyons. Suggesting he's as good as Thommo (or even close to it) is setting an incredibly high standard for the kid to measure up to. Thompson's form over the last few years (excluding his injury plagued 2013) has been exceptional.

Lyons looks to have the goods and could well turn out to be a very good AFL player. I have no problem with that. As good as Thompson, when he was playing at an AA standard? Not even close - and I doubt he ever will be able to achieve that standard.

 

[Glenno23]

You're making a comparison to a Thompson who is clearly playing with an injury and who is a pale shadow of his usual self, operating at barely 60% of his usual capacity. Lyons has exceeded expectations, and is still short of 60% Thompson - he's nowhere near the standard that Thompson normally plays to.

I would say Lyons 4 goals last week was more than 160% of anything Thommo has done this year though

Stop selling players short when they've been quite good. You do it all the time.

 

[Vader]

I would say Lyons 4 goals last week was more than 160% of anything Thommo has done this year though

Stop selling players short when they've been quite good. You do it all the time.

Lyons had 17 disposals last week and was fortunate that 4 of them were goals. Two of his goals came from the ugliest kicks you'll ever see and could have gone anywhere. 17 disposals is also his average for the 6 games he's played this season, with a career high of 21 disposals. That's pretty damn good for a player with just 9 AFL games under his belt... but as good as Thompson?

For the last two years Thompson averaged 29.5 and 30.6 disposals per game. Even this year he's still averaging 25.8 - having averaged 24+ for the last 7 consecutive years. Thompson's average this year is still 20% better than Lyons' career best.

4 goals is exciting and a good day out for the kid. His figures are pretty good for a kid who plays his 10th game tomorrow afternoon. It's nowhere near enough to suggest that he's anywhere near the output of Scott Thompson. Sorry, but that's just flat out ridiculous.