Have Geelong become too powerful?

[Mr Meow]

D’ambrosio was effectively undervalued/ unwanted. Chol also, and Gunston was a donation to lions from us initially.

If you go down that route, of our FA/trade-ins during Scott' 15 years only Dangerfield and Cameron were desperately wanted and appropriately valued by their clubs. Hence needing to part with a few first round picks for them (still unders) despite their free agent status.

Ablett and Tim Kelly were desperately wanted and appropriately valued by Geelong. So the ledger is pretty even and the rest is all doing what every other club does: seeing more value in players than their host clubs do. And yes, that includes Bailey Smith.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Geelong are not too powerful. AFL as a competition is just too uneven

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Yes!

How is this even allowed?!

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You have to run your cloning out of Hong Kong otherwise there's a few too many government controls on it

 

[CatToTheFuture]

You keep saying trade. There was no trade. Geelong gave up no player or draft pick.
You might find the rules get changed about this type of thing, there is a lot of discussion.
You can't have a team making the prelim nearly every year and getting these gift deals.

Hey that's not true, we gave up a future Rd 3 pick

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I agree with that on face value. Only issue is they got great compo for Ablett Jnr whereas we got pick 19 for Buddy.

We got what for GAJ?!?!

 

[TheEscapeClub]

Not because of me, because of the Integrity of the AFL.

I always wonder how those 2 words would go in a sentence together.

 

[Mr Meow]

We got what for GAJ?!?!

Not a lot for the best player of his generation.

Dangerfield was a jet in 2015 but his body of work before arriving at Geelong was nowhere near Ablett 2007-2010.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

More players from the Rookie draft and Cat B (8) than trade (5) and DELISTED free agents (2) combined...

Current Geelong should be battlers in the GFL with this kind of build.

They'd struggle to beat current day North Shore with a list like that.

 

[Wojcinski]

More players from the Rookie draft and Cat B (8) than trade (5) and DELISTED free agents (2) combined...

Current Geelong should be battlers in the GFL with this kind of build.

Wait, no Father-Sons, no academy picks, no non-delisted FA's, only one top 10 pick and he isn't even in the starting 22? Damn thats crazy

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Wait, no Father-Sons, no academy picks, no non-delisted FA's, only one top 10 pick and he isn't even in the starting 22? Damn thats crazy

Well..... sorta no academy kids.....

Humphries and Stengle count. Just wasn't our academy

 

[LordLucifer]

Do you really think Jack Bowes would agree to play for free for 2 years? There were plenty of clubs willing to pay out his contract to get the draft pick.

Geelong were the only one running to add 2 years on solid money. He was owed something like $1.8m over 2 and Geelong's paying him $2.6m over 4.

 

[Freomaniac]

Geelongs level of power and corruption is on par with the power of Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage and the Ultimate Warrior in a super group Freomaniac

If you had it your way, you would give Geelong a life sentence of Hulkamania lol

 

[Xtreme]

If you had it your way, you would give Geelong a life sentence of Hulkamania lol

I mean Dangerfield is a cross between when Hulk Hogan "hulks up" and the big bad wolf huffing and puffing to blow houses down!

 

[Seeds]

Geelong fans 101.

"Danger, Cameron, Smith, Ablett Jnr all needed to come home, those clubs owed
it to them to help them., its outrageous if they dont."

One player wants to go home to be with his wife and kids, "Lol **** him, Geelong owe him nothing."

Which geelong fans said they needed to come home? We wanted them to. No one said they had to.

 

[Seeds]

If you go down that route, of our FA/trade-ins during Scott' 15 years only Dangerfield and Cameron were desperately wanted and appropriately valued by their clubs. Hence needing to part with a few first round picks for them (still unders) despite their free agent status.

Ablett and Tim Kelly were desperately wanted and appropriately valued by Geelong. So the ledger is pretty even and the rest is all doing what every other club does: seeing more value in players than their host clubs do. And yes, that includes Bailey Smith.

Cameron trade was definately not unders. 3 first rounders for a 28 year old coming off an injury plagued season. Felt like overs. We have been very lucky that he has been completely injury free since his first season with us and actually rose a level rather then fall a level as they often do at that age

 

[demondavey]

Players recruited from other clubs in Geelong's team last week: 5
Hawthorn: 6 (not including Gunston)
Collingwood: 10
Brisbane: 6

Conclusion, apparently: Geelong poach players and can't develop their own.

Ouch!

 

[Mr Meow]

Cameron trade was definately not unders. 3 first rounders for a 28 year old coming off an injury plagued season. Felt like overs. We have been very lucky that he has been completely injury free since his first season with us and actually rose a level rather then fall a level as they often do at that age

You'll notice I grouped Dangerfield and Cameron together - 4 first round picks parted with collectively for 2 guns. We got 2x 2nd round picks going the other way in the Cameron trade as well. He was still a superstar forward and Dangerfield was a superstar midfielder - any club would do those deals if they had the opportunity.

People grouping Smith in with those two players is the amusing bit. Smith was red flags galore and had a poor 2023 before his ACL.

 

[Black Haze]

What happened yesterday? I was told by the media that Geelong were shoe ins, but they were anything but shoe ins.

 

[FreddyTwoShoes]

What happened yesterday? I was told by the media that Geelong were shoe ins, but they were anything but shoe ins.

Dunno. Ask “the media”.