How much is Rowell worth with no draft?

[Rockstar6]

Nonsense. If you establish yourself as the best performed player in the field in one game 10 games or 4 games you are still the best. I don’t think any other Rising candidate has a BOG performance at all, between about 75 of them. Rowell is one man out and he has 3.

Now you're bringing up the 10 game lol. You dont need a BOG performance to win the rising star!

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Ok so hypothetically say a cricketer plays a debut series at the start of a calendar year for Australia and hits 2 centuries and a 50 in his 2nd, 3rd and 4th tests, gets hurt and doesn't play for the rest of the year. Finishes with an average of 80 or something. Another kid debuts for England, plays 15 tests for the year, hits, say, 3 centuries, 5 50s, and scores 1200 runs for the calendar year, averages 55 over a big sample size.

Who do you give the award to

The trouble is PhatBoy, nobody in this years Rising field has done anything like this. Rowell got 3 perfect 10 BOG’s from the highest possible authority on the matter, coach’s votes. 75% of the four full matches he played that happened. Nobody else in the field has come close to doing that once despite some of them having about 15 goes at it.

The better comparison would be a kid debuts in international cricket and gets Man of the Match in 3 of 4 matches before getting injured and he did this as a batsman with scores like 158, 200* and 180 and in doing so he caused his seldom winning team to win. And you are comparing him with other youngsters who played the whole season and held their own, popping up with a few 50-70 type scores along the way. That is pretty much how I see Rowell v the rest in the Rising field.

 

[PhatBoy]

The trouble is PhatBoy, nobody in this years Rising field has done anything like this. Rowell got 3 perfect 10 BOG’s from the highest possible authority on the matter, coach’s votes. 75% of the four full matches he played that happened. Nobody else in the field has come close to doing that once despite some of them having about 15 goes at it.

The better comparison would be a kid debuts in international cricket and gets Man of the Match in 3 of 4 matches before getting injured and he did this as a batsman with scores like 158, 200* and 180 and in doing so he caused his seldom winning team to win. And you are comparing him with other youngsters who played the whole season and held their own, popping up with a few 50-70 type scores along the way. That is pretty much how I see Rowell v the rest in the Rising field.

With respect while his performances were fantastic, I don't think a comparison to 3 scores that, say, Mark Waugh never achieved in his life, are apt fpr 3 very good games of footy.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

With respect while his performances were fantastic, I don't think a comparison to 3 scores that, say, Mark Waugh never achieved in his life, are apt fpr 3 very good games of footy.

Three very good games of footy!

In a normal season there are probably only about 100 examples of a player getting the perfect 10 coach’s votes. A player at random is probably about an 80-1 chance to get that accolade in a particular match. An absolute gun player in his prime in a good year, a Fye-Martin-Neale-Petracca will probably do that 4-5 times in a full season of 22 matches and we are talking about the absolute cream of vote-getters here. Players in their first season as 18yo’s almost never do it once. Rowell in his first 4 full matches as an 18yo did it 3 times.

You are talking about 44 AFL players in a match, and the best authority you can get, the coaches, say, unanimously. he is the best of the 44 players on the field in 3 out of his only 4 full matches. In a test match, on a reasonable pitch, with only 21 other players to compete with, those are the sort of scores a batsman would need to be confident of being Man of the Match most of the time, and even then it would be no sure thing. So I am not sure what planet you are watching from PhatBoy but on planet Meteoric, that is:

A) astonishingly good that and 18yo could achieve that, and
B) miles beyond what any other Rising nominee has achieved.

It is like Serong has played 15 innings for 400 runs with a 70 and another couple of half centuries and he is favourite over Rowell who played 4 innings for 500+ runs and was THE difference in between winning and losing in matches.

 

[PhatBoy]

Sorry. On planet Phatboy a month-long body of amazing work isn't enough of a sample size.

 

[Coaster2012]

If he was on the market tommorow, he could get a mill contract somewhere. You have a player you know is going to be an absolute star, and he's 19...

 

[Brutalitops]

See Tom Boyd deal.

Interesting side thread: how much would the best players be paid if there was no salary cap?

Yeah nah we tried that. Certain clubs could help themselves and almost drove themselves to bankruptcy. Looking at you Richmond and Collingwood

 

[Fadge]

Ok so hypothetically say a cricketer plays a debut series at the start of a calendar year for Australia and hits 2 centuries and a 50 in his 2nd, 3rd and 4th tests, gets hurt and doesn't play for the rest of the year. Finishes with an average of 80 or something. Another kid debuts for England, plays 15 tests for the year, hits, say, 3 centuries, 5 50s, and scores 1200 runs for the calendar year, averages 55 over a big sample size.

Who do you give the award to

Rowell didn't hit two centuries and a 50, he hit 3 triple centuries and a double ton.

 

[Juddernaut08]

There's no chance I'd be throwing a million a season at a 19 year old 5 gamer. That's not smart cap management based on the output. You're paying out already on hope he becomes Chris Judd, long way to go.

If for free though, you can kinda give a monetary value for picks and add that to a fair contract.

If you could sell picks for cash and cap space ... and pick 1 is worth $500k ... then add $500k to whatever his fair salary is.

Judd was $1mil+ but also cost us pick 3,4,20

 

[Juddernaut08]

Yeah nah we tried that. Certain clubs could help themselves and almost drove themselves to bankruptcy. Looking at you Richmond and Collingwood

Tiges wasting it on strippers probs

 

[Brutalitops]

Tiges wasting it on strippers probs

Gives new meaning to Save Our Skins

 

[Fadge]

Judd was $1mil+ but also cost us pick 3,4,20

You forgot to mention he also cost you any chance you had of contending for a flag.

 

[Juddernaut08]

You forgot to mention he also cost you any chance you had of contending for a flag.

Lol well done on another valuable contribution to the thread topic.

Ought to change your name from Fadge to Flog.

 

[PhatBoy]

Rowell didn't hit two centuries and a 50, he hit 3 triple centuries and a double ton.

no he didn’t.

games like his have not only appeared 40 or so times in AFL history.