Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 5

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Continued From Part 4:

Vic - How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 4

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[Nikita Blue]

What do you call it when John Setka uses the hells angels to rough up people not obeying the CFMEU?
Where?

Except they were actually cleaning up all throughout the day?

Didn't happen.

 

[Evolved1]

Looks or lack of human emotion ?

Primarily the lack of intellectual fortitude. They're dumb campaigners who'll do anything for votes.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

You'll be happy to know that not all protesters pissed on the shrine. Isn't life grand?

It was a Proud Boys initiation ceremony. They only needed to fill a few cups.

 

[Evolved1]

The rest were too busy kicking pets I suppose.

You're having a mare. Sleep it off.

 

[Evolved1]

Yes, better to be safe than sorry. Best to not open golf 2 or 3 days earlier than before we reach 80% first jab, just in case we see a massive surge in numbers that causes a our hospital system to collapse.

People might die if we open golf courses.

Don't blame me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[chunkylover53]

The rest were too busy kicking pets I suppose.

as i said mate, put the tools down, hit the showers and have the evening off.

you're spamming this joint with shit posts and that stupid red 'dislike' symbol all over my page which is incredibly unaesthetically pleasing.

 

[Evolved1]

If one person loots or hits a cop at the next BLM, refugee or gay rights protest, should the cops use rubber bullets and capsicum spray?

 

[Punt rd end]

bloody hell out of the frying pan into the fire for one aggot .... the mind fairly boggles:

'Victoria is set to miss the first target on its vaccination road map, with Victorians set to wait an extra two or three days before they can enjoy an extremely modest easing of restrictions.
Under the road map announced on Sunday, contactless outdoor recreation such as golf and tennis will be permitted once 80 per cent of Victorians aged 16 and over have had a first dose of vaccine.

The road map forecast that the threshold would be reached this Sunday, September 26.

However, as of Thursday, 76.2 per cent had received a first dose, with the state on a trajectory to achieve 80 per cent by Tuesday or Wednesday.
Health Minister Martin Foley confirmed on Friday that the restrictions will not be eased until the threshold is met.'

2 or 3 days FML, **** Dan Andrews, 2 or 3 days ****!!!!

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Arrant nonsense. The overwhelming majority are dipsticks who get their propaganda from US extreme rightist websites. Your version is little more than the Murdoch version, the very people who give comfort to and incite these knuckle draggers. As well as Stoker, Christensen, Canavan, Allen, Finn and a conga line of other reactionaries.

That's exactly how they get suckered in.

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

I'm just pissed off. I don't know how many times we've been told something just to get disappointed. I know it's only a few more days but my patience has gone. Especially seeing so many numnuts running around the place doing their own thing.

 

[Millky95]

Did people seriously think it was gonna be the dates the suggested when the talk was all vaccination targets?

 

[Millky95]

Literally if 21% of the population decided "nah no vaccine for me" we'll never get the 80% freedoms

 

[Mateyman]

Trial done involving 50k people, split into 2 groups, both exactly matched as stated in the article.

As you can see Vaccine worked amazingly for the Alpha variant, not so much for the Delta with an efficacy of 42% for Pfizer double dosed.

Comparison of two highly-effective mRNA vaccines for COVID-19 during periods of Alpha and Delta variant prevalence

Although clinical trials and real-world studies have affirmed the effectiveness and safety of the FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccines, reports of breakthrough infections and persistent emergence of new variants highlight the need to vigilantly monitor the effectiveness of these vaccines. Here we...

www.medrxiv.org

Here's an interesting one, while we're on the discussion of the whole thing being politicised. Did you know, the Emergency Use Authorization of the COVID-19 vaccines requires no existing safe and effective treatments?

Emergency use - Investigational Product

Emergency Use of Investigational Product

www.fda.gov

Makes you wonder about all those horse dewormers and other therapeutics that have been demonised by governments and media. Not that I endorse any of those treatments.

Here's an interesting one.

Massachusetts coronavirus breakthrough cases jump 4,415 last week, more than 600 fully vaccinated people a day

More than 4,000 fully vaccinated people in Massachusetts tested positive for the coronavirus last week, a daily average of more than 600 people as breakthrough infections continue to rise each week…

www.bostonherald.com

Here's another fun one.

Israeli doctors find severe COVID-19 breakthrough cases mostly in older, sicker patients

In Israel's COVID-19 wards, doctors are learning which vaccinated patients are most vulnerable to severe illness, amid growing concerns about instances in which the shots provide less protection against the worst forms of the disease.

www.reuters.com

That's a big drop in efficacy don't you think?

Science | AAAS

www.science.org

Anything else you want me to read? Do you think I'm well informed about or not informed enough? Or misinformed, maybe I need to listen to our garbage media a bit more?

Hang on a minute - are you basing your opinion on these articles now? I thought Dan Andrews was the problem - but now you're presenting a bunch of studies completely removed from Daniel Andrews. Which one is the problem?

Anyhow, turning to the articles - what exactly are you trying to prove? That the vaccines wane in efficacy over time is accepted. That they're not 100% effective is equally clear. Nobody has claimed any of these things so not sure what you think you're debunking. The best you can come up with is that the vaccines aren't perfect. The vaccines clearly provide far better health outcomes for the individual and the society than without. What do you reckon is leading to the numbers in Sydney going down? Just coincidence it coincides with the increased rate of vaccinations I guess

 

[Evolved1]

I'm just pissed off. I don't know how many times we've been told something just to get disappointed. I know it's only a few more days but my patience has gone. Especially seeing so many numnuts running around the place doing there own thing.

Seriously, the public doesn't give a shit. Do what you can to protect yourself and ignore the bs.

 

[Messenger]

Did people seriously think it was gonna be the dates the suggested when the talk was all vaccination targets?

We’re now vaccinating 12-15’s and they don’t count in the stats. Perhaps that’s contributing?

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

So which ones of you fellas got trapped here today?

 

[Punt rd end]

They're all Nazi's. In Dan we trust.

With his nazi mate on the megaphone at the shrine here

 

[Bradesmaen]

People might die if we open golf courses.

Don't blame me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Massive lack of understanding of how viruses transmit. But but but if I'm playing golf I won't go round hugging someone, sit in the same car as them, share a beer at the pub, meet them at their house.

Why are Victorians so ****ing thick at the moment? More American every day with stupidity. We survived 3 long lockdowns like Victoria have had here in Ireland with minimal protests and now look at us, we're ending all restrictions october 22.

Stop ignoring science and get educated by something that isn't Youtube.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

If one person loots or hits a cop at the next BLM, refugee or gay rights protest, should the cops use rubber bullets and capsicum spray?

Hopefully they'll be defunded by then.

That said, if you attack a cop, you should be expecting a violent response.

 

[Evolved1]

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With his nazi mate on the megaphone at the shrine here

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Do you have video footage for context?

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Massive lack of understanding of how viruses transmit. But but but if I'm playing golf I won't go round hugging someone, sit in the same car as them, share a beer at the pub, meet them at their house.

Why are Victorians so ******* thick at the moment? More American every day with stupidity. We survived 3 long lockdowns like Victoria have had here in Ireland with minimal protests and now look at us, we're ending all restrictions october 22.

Stop ignoring science and get educated by something that isn't Youtube.

Don't blame all of us.

Not everyone here self kettles in a shopping plazza easily viewable on google maps.

 

[Millky95]

We’re now vaccinating 12-15’s and they don’t count in the stats. Perhaps that’s contributing?

Possibly. It would explain why we are delivering a lot of doses but our percentage is slowing

I haven't been following the news in recent days so I am not sure

 

[Blue1980]

Another fail this week from the Premier. Dan Andrews was asked at a press conference this week how many of the 4000 ICU beds that his Health minister announced in 2020 had been delivered, and this is what his response was:

"No. Hang on a minute, that is not what she announced"

Dan then went on to ask mockingly whether he and his government were expected to set up 4000 extra ICU beds in a converted warehouse or turn the Exhibition Building into an ICU unit, as if the proposition was entirely preposterous.

Yet another lie by Dan. Because this is exactly what he proposed. His minister said last year, "we are going to fund another 4000 intensive care beds taking us to a total of 4500". And Dan even released a statement confirming the $1.3 Billion funding to create the extra 4000 beds.

Clearly, not one new ICU bed was created.

As long as Dan keeps lying to us how can anyone believe anything he says. How can we believe his statements about ending lockdown?

I know this post will be met with derision by Danfans. Maybe, before you LOL it give us your take on the ICU beds.

We didn’t set up that many extra beds correct, does this mean everything they ever happens from now on is a tyrannical act to enact a one world government beginning in Victoria? No.

 

[Punt rd end]

Do you have video footage for context?

Of the nazi in the megaphone?

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

as i said mate, put the tools down, hit the showers and have the evening off.

you're spamming this joint with sh*t posts and that stupid red 'dislike' symbol all over my page which is incredibly unaesthetically pleasing.

Just mixed it up for you.