Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 5

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Continued From Part 4:

Vic - How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 4

This thread is Continued in Part 5: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/how-would-you-rate-daniel-andrews-performance-as-victorian-premier-part-5.1282789/

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[cartwright]

Need your victims to appear innocent and moral for you to have any sympathy do you

id say, based on that posters posting history - that’s be a no.

 

[Crankyhawk]

That might be a point if detention was confined to that circumstance.

Probably difficult to proactively write in limitations? I don’t know, not involved in drafting law whether you have lots of narrow laws or a broad scope which then gets limited by case law

 

[Mr.X]

You’d think with all these right wing protestors they’d be in a better position come the 2022 election…

They’re not attracting anyone who isn’t already attracted to their message, it seems a pretty pointless protest.

cause newspolls are real accurate aren't they..

If people bothered to spend about 2 minutes looking into the facts rather than believing the BS that come out of the Andrews spin/propaganda team, they'd see the numbers behind it

https://www.pollbludger.net/2021/11/19/newspoll-54-46-to-labor-in-victoria-4/

"The poll was conducted Thursday to Wednesday from a sample of 1029."

That's right, 1029 people... would be interesting to see how, and from which side of politics, they polled (*cough - sourced, selected*) these people

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

cause newspolls are real accurate aren't they..

If people bothered to spend about 2 minutes looking into the facts rather than believing the BS that come out of the Andrews spin/propaganda team, they'd see that the numbers behind it

https://www.pollbludger.net/2021/11/19/newspoll-54-46-to-labor-in-victoria-4/

"The poll was conducted Thursday to Wednesday from a sample of 1029."

That's right, 1029 people... would be interesting to see how, and from which side of politics, they polled (*cough - sourced, selected*) these people

Maybe instead of spending 2 minutes "looking into the facts", you could have spent 5 minutes googling how representative sampling is used to predict outcomes on a larger scale and then the rest of us wouldn't have to read this dumb post.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Probably difficult to proactively write in limitations? I don’t know, not involved in drafting law whether you have lots of narrow laws or a broad scope which then gets limited by case law

What you never should do is have a law that allows for detention at the pleasure of an “authorised officer” without the opportunity for review.

Believe me mate, and it might be better to take this angle offline, the abuse by police and local government of “strict liability” matters does not suggest such a thing should be extended.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Need your victims to appear innocent and moral for you to have any sympathy do you

I’d prefer them not to be starting trouble.

 

[mcnulty]

I'll vote for this, small price to pay for living a relatively normal life.

Which is of course, entirely reasonable. But people who don’t want to get vaccinated generally don’t want to wear masks or QR code etc. No compromise. It’s got to the point where any measure is met with DICTATOR DAN, which of course plays right into his hands, especially when he’s actually removing restrictions.

This is why we get the sort of polling we saw today.

 

[scoman]

mini avi turned up there and caused some sort of kerfuffle and rukshan literally got told to fu** off to which he screamed that they were racist because he is brown

Which protest? The one about the refugees or the freedom March?

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Which protest? The one about the refugees or the freedom March?

The refugee one.

 

[tangolikelama]

Where the **** is the 450k figure coming from haha - 50-60k yes but not 9x that.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

My anti-vaxxer friend on facebook in claiming over 300k attended today seems like the number doubles every time one of them makes a post to social media, by tomorrow they'll probably be telling us that 1.2Million attended.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Where the fu** is the 450k figure coming from haha - 50-60k yes but not 9x that.

Probably safe to just divide whatever number they tell us by 10 as it will be closer.

No wonder they think there are more of them than there are, they can't count.

 

[scoman]

The refugee one.

Seriously? Wouldn't he have been better served reporting on the freedom march? Rather telling if that's where he chose to be, even if it was a quick detour.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Seriously? Wouldn't he have been better served reporting on the freedom march? Rather telling if that's where he chose to be, even if it was a quick detour.

I'm sure he assured everyone he wasn't there to make trouble

 

[Mr.X]

Maybe instead of spending 2 minutes "looking into the facts", you could have spent 5 minutes googling how representative sampling is used to predict outcomes on a larger scale and then the rest of us wouldn't have to read this dumb post.

Don't need to, because I understand how representative sampling works, and methodologies where sample sizes are used to form any decent conclusion.

In this case, 1029 people is hardly a substantive enough sample to predict the result of a local council election where they'd be over 20,000 eligible voters, let alone a state election with a larger set of denominators.

Think before posting crap

 

[Mr.X]

The number of people would be.

Official goggle crowd geomapping verified 200,000 people protesting in Melb this afternoon.

Yet, the Andrews spin team and fanbois are obsessed with a newspoll which covered 1029 people

 

[William Wonka]

Oh boy oh boy!
Dapper DAN! the man on track for a third term with an increased majority!!!

 

[Ghost Patrol]

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Official goggle crowd geomapping verified 200,000 people protesting in Melb this afternoon.

Yet, the Andrews spin team and fanbois are obsessed with a newspoll which covered 1029 people

Oh, so you can provide an official google geomapping verified link?

 

[Punt rd end]

Which protest? The one about the refugees or the freedom March?

They turned up to the refugee antifacist protest

 

[Nikita Blue]

Don't need to, because I understand how representative sampling works, and methodologies where sample sizes are used to form any decent conclusion.

In this case, 1029 people is hardly a substantive enough sample to predict the result of a local council election where they'd be over 20,000 eligible voters, let alone a state election with a larger set of denominators.

Think before posting crap

 

[Punt rd end]

Doesn't look bigger than a carols by candlelight crowd

 

[mighty tiges]

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That's on the unvaccinated.

Time to move on.

Not everyone can get vaccinated. Some people have legit medical reasons and can't get the vaccine (eg: immuno-suppressed, etc). Everybody who can get vaccinated should get vaccinated to protect these people.

We all get our childhood vaccines not just to protect ourselves but as a society to protect new born babies who are yet to reach the age to be vaccinated.

Anti-vaxxers put these people at risk as the fewer the % of the population vaccinated, the more a virus will breakout, spread and cause harm and death.

Measles for instance requires 95%+ vaccination levels otherwise there are outbreaks. In instances in the past where anti-vaxxers have promoted falsehoods about vaccines and conned a community to stop getting vaccinated allowing vaccination levels to drop, it has lead to unnecessary deaths. In Samoa only a couple of years ago, 63 people died from measles. Most them under the age of 5. Samoa as a result made measles vaccination compulsory.

Samoa makes measles vaccinations compulsory after outbreak kills 32

The death toll from a measles epidemic in Samoa reaches 32, with 24,000 people receiving vaccinations since last Wednesday as part of a mass immunisation campaign.

www.abc.net.au

In a civilised society, you don't get the "choice" and "freedom" to harm others.

 

[Pessimistic]

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Liberals actually look better when they grey up

 

[Gralin]

Seriously? Wouldn't he have been better served reporting on the freedom march? Rather telling if that's where he chose to be, even if it was a quick detour.

Because its all about content

Confrontation is good for them, these are the guys filming themselves harrassing people eating at cafe's remember