Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 7

[peetoo]

Heard from the inside that pr in Surrey hills LXR has been the most challenging.

Surrey hills also the most deadly xing. Mont Albert going too.

Mind you camberwell is gridlock city at peak time with all the buses etc

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Victoria's wholesale energy prices, now significantly lower than Eastern states counterparts, continue to fall as NSW faces blackouts.

Bring on an SEC reboot and additional state investment in generation assets.

Vic may not be WA in terms of power prices, but this has been a gell of a turnaround over the last few years, since the interconnector/coal shut down scare campaign run by the Murdoch press.

 

[spinynorman]

An excellent speech delivered to the Australian Senate by Ralph Babet, coherently and methodically picking apart Daniel Andrews' plans. We need this kind of measured analysis from more outlets to really drive home the message about what Andrews is up to.

I rise here today to speak on the dangers of the 15-minute city. The Victorian government has begun pitching the brand new but old idea, taken from the playbook of our best mates at the World Economic Forum, of the 15-minute city. It's also sometimes called the 20-minute city. You know what, it doesn't matter, because it's all the same garbage. Imagine the 15-minute city where you won't need a car, where you won't need to travel much at all and where everything you'll ever need will be provided for you and it's all within easy reach. So convenient. Sounds great. That's the charm of the new era of soft totalitarianism. It's always for your benefit, and so people willingly, even eagerly, agree to be caged. Sorry, I didn't mean to use the word 'caged'. It was a slip of the tongue, kind of like Klaus Schwab didn't mean to say that the elites are going to push us to a point where we will own nothing, zip, nada, and we will be happy because they will own everything, and they'll be even happier. That's not a conspiracy theory. It's called 'servitisation'—look it up. I'll give an example of servitisation. Once upon a time, we owned DVDs. We don't anymore. Now you have a streaming service; you don't own it. Once upon a time, people would easily buy homes. Not anymore, not today—now you're more likely to rent. You don't own it. What about a car? One day you won't own a car; it's all going to be rideshare. You won't own it; someone else will own it. You'll be happy, though.

The 15-minute city is not an original thought from the Victorian Premier, Daniel Andrews, as if such a thing as an original though ever existed in the Premier's head. It's a plan parroted straight from the World Economic Forum, the United Nations and other globalist organisations that have been busy sowing this idea around the world, and now it is with governments. For example, in the UK they have already announced plans to divide cities into separately administered districts, which they claim will help meet the country's sustainability goals by reducing the need for citizens to travel. The government will ensure you and your family are well catered for—and, of course, well contained, which I suspect is rather more the point—in a tiny precinct that you'll probably never need to leave.

If the climate emergency, crisis, disaster, catastrophe or whatever it is they're calling it these days is as bad as the United Nations would have us believe, then perhaps we'll never be allowed to leave our 15-minute zone. I jest, of course. I'm only joking. People will be allowed to travel outside their allotted 15-minute zones. They'll just have to pay a modest toll or levy in order to be able to leave their district. But other than that—and, of course, the surveillance—they'll be completely free.

Some will go ahead and say that this is a conspiracy theory. But it's not. It's not even a theory. It's happening in plain sight for all to see. Just ask the residents of Oxford in the UK if they think it's a conspiracy theory. They're living it right now. I remember 2020, when the media accused everyone who said the government would use COVID as an excuse to abuse civil liberties of being a conspiracy theorist. We all know how that turned out, especially in my home state of Victoria. Overlay the 15-minute city with the coming social-credit system and the digital ID, just like in Communist China with the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party, and you begin to get an understanding of what the future might hold if we continue to allow things to move ahead unabated and unchecked.

We Victorians know all too well what it's like to be constricted and locked down in a zone. The government's design to corral us all into zones—no matter how the supposed benefits are sold—is cynical and sinister, and it must be resisted. It must be discussed. It must be considered. To the people at home I say: Do not leave your fate in the hands of government, because power corrupts. Take an interest in what is happening in your community, in your state. Take an interest in who governs you. Don't just go to the ballot box, tick a box and forget about it. That's not the right way to do it.

 

[Gough]

If I'd spent over 100 million bucks getting that elected I'd be demanding my money back. He's like George Santos but with Andrew Tate's personalty.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

An excellent speech delivered to the Australian Senate by Ralph Babet, coherently and methodically picking apart Daniel Andrews' plans. We need this kind of measured analysis from more outlets to really drive home the message about what Andrews is up to.

Stopped reading after “15 minute city.”

 

[Gough]

Stopped reading after “15 minute city.”

Seems to be the latest thing to pretend to rail against. All the cool kids are doing it.

 

[peetoo]

An excellent speech delivered to the Australian Senate by Ralph Babet, coherently and methodically picking apart Daniel Andrews' plans. We need this kind of measured analysis from more outlets to really drive home the message about what Andrews is up to.

They want to take our freedom mate

 

[GreyWind]

Stopped reading after “15 minute city.”

Kind of stupidity I expect to see in a Facebook conspiracy post. Honestly wouldn't surprise me if Babet stole it from Facebook, he's a real estate agent we can't expect anything more than that from him.

 

[peetoo]

Kind of stupidity I expect to see in a Facebook conspiracy post. Honestly wouldn't surprise me if Babet stole it from Facebook, he's a real estate agent we can't expect anything more than that from him.

Figures. Developers and real estate hate the concept. Worrying about shit like amenities in new suburbs? Communism

It’s this sectors pathetic performance over decades which is the problem, and they hate that people like that covid proved the massive commute daily is not essential

Haven’t we had plenty of articles saying organisations should force staff back into the office more? Is that freedom?

 

[peetoo]

You’ll hear about the Oxford scheme. British cities have been implementing weird traffic schemes for decades

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Figures. Developers and real estate hate the concept. Worrying about s**t like amenities in new suburbs? Communism

It’s this sectors pathetic performance over decades which is the problem, and they hate that people like that covid proved the massive commute daily is not essential

Haven’t we had plenty of articles saying organisations should force staff back into the office more? Is that freedom?

It’s not even a concept though. It’s nothing more than a conspiracy theory perpetrated by whackjobs.

 

[GreyWind]

You’ll hear about the Oxford scheme. British cities have been implementing weird traffic schemes for decades

How One City’s Traffic Plan Kicked Off a Global Right-Wing Freakout

Move over, Agenda 21. There's a new urban-planning conspiracy in town.

slate.com

The scheme and the "conspiracy" for those who haven't seen it and want the main points.

 

[Gough]

You’ll hear about the Oxford scheme. British cities have been implementing weird traffic schemes for decades

I have a mate that lived deep in John Major country in Huntingdon and at some point in time they'd built a ring road around the town which could make getting about a real pain.

 

[Golden_6]

Ralph Babet is more or less a genuine cooker that fell into parliament on the back of Palmer advertising. Absolute spanner.

 

[The Punter]

Inane chat about 15 minute cities and Senator Babet distract us from talking about the Premier, his attacks in IBAC and his political COVID-polling.

 

[Saint]

15 Minute cities were discussed long before COVID. But it's about providing services/amenities in outer suburbs. Do these cookers seriously think the Govt is going to prevent people going to the CBD, where they're investing billions on Melbourne Metro, Arts Precinct, Sports Precincts.

How does a mental patient like this get into parliament and spinynorman which part of 15-minute cities do you object to?

 

[Saint]

Inane chat about 15 minute cities and Senator Babet distract us from talking about the Premier, his attacks in IBAC and his political COVID-polling.

So Senator Babet is doing a favour for Dan Andrews?

Also, the COVID polling wouldn't have been necessary if the media and opposition weren't attacking the Premier personally during a national emergency.

 

[The Punter]

So Senator Babet is doing a favour for Dan Andrews?

Also, the COVID polling wouldn't have been necessary if the media and opposition weren't attacking the Premier personally during a national emergency.

It's important that you get a good night's rest, so whatever aids that is fine by me.

 

[adogsfan5]

So Senator Babet is doing a favour for Dan Andrews?

Also, the COVID polling wouldn't have been necessary if the media and opposition weren't attacking the Premier personally during a national emergency.

Dude, seriously..

If decisions were made purely on science and from our health experts, it shouldn’t matter what focus groups are thinking about a premier during a national emergency.

 

[Gough]

Inane chat about 15 minute cities and Senator Babet distract us from talking about the Premier, his attacks in IBAC and his political COVID-polling.

It's all over the media, perhaps some of those news organisation don't set the agenda in the way that they used to.

 

[Saint]

Dude, seriously..

If decisions were made purely on science and from our health experts, it shouldn’t matter what focus groups are thinking about a premier during a national emergency.

It absolutely matters for the delivery of the measures. It absolutely matters that if the instruction is coming from the Premier (which requires public acknowledgement and action) that there's a minimum level of trust in the Premier.

Had trust dropped, it might have been more important for Sutton or others to do more. Of course, they were being attacked too.

Do you not think so?

 

[adogsfan5]

It absolutely matters for the delivery of the measures. It absolutely matters that if the instruction is coming from the Premier (which requires public acknowledgement and action) that there's a minimum level of trust in the Premier.

Had trust dropped, it might have been more important for Sutton or others to do more. Of course, they were being attacked too.

Do you not think so?

I don’t think so, no.

What difference does it make?
If trust was diminishing based on these focus groups, should that change the required measures being rolled out?
It shouldn’t. It should be completely based on health advice.

Did other premiers need the same data?

 

[Gralin]

jesus christ why are we talking about covid measures and polling in 2023 when governments have basically given up on doing anything

 

[FredLeDeux]

jesus christ why are we talking about covid measures and polling in 2023 when governments have basically given up on doing anything

Be reasonable, it's down to a measly 800 deaths a week.

 

[Gralin]

Be reasonable, it's down to a measly 800 deaths a week.