Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack II

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Mid East - Israel declare war after Hamas attack.

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[Demonic Ascent]

The US public are not supporting a war to help the Saudi's. They are not going to war to save Israel. Israel has no resources and they are acting like maniacs - they are a nice to have for the USA but totally dispensable.

Netanyahu needs to pull his head in.

The US public (much like our own) are idiots who will be led to war by whatever garbage propaganda the establishment tries to throw at them. You don't remember Iraq?

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

The US public (much like our own) are idiots who will be led to war by whatever garbage propaganda the establishment tries to throw at them. You don't remember Iraq?

Weren’t the majority of Australian’s always against that war?

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Weren’t the majority of Australian’s always against that war?

If they were, fat lot of good it did. I guess they showed their opposition by voting Howard's coalition out in 2004...oh wait.

 

[blackcat]

james baker one inch east

the son George W instrumental in StarWars first strike defence put in Poland and elsewhere

here is Ritter in his inimitable bellicose elan , cant take the marine out of the marines™ even when deepstate blackmail you for kiddy-fiddling oneword

why did the blackmail job disappear after Iraq ? assume alphabet operatives and OperationMockingbird™ in paper(s)-of-record

 

[blackcat]

Weren’t the majority of Australian’s always against that war?

but murdochs media sacks HobartExaminer™

JWH all the way w Dubbya and Dick

and Blair and Wendi Deng

 

[blackcat]

 

[owen87]

I'm sure blackcat has some kind of point, but god knows what it is amongst the word salad.

 

[sr36]

I'm sure blackcat has some kind of point, but god knows what it is amongst the word salad.

It's all a bit Qanon.

 

[barreness]

Weren’t the majority of Australian’s always against that war?

Exactly, and why it doesn't matter, it's just vibes

No one is calling Howard and co to a war crimes tribunal

 

[barreness]

I'm sure blackcat has some kind of point, but god knows what it is amongst the word salad.

The US holds a grudge and still hasn't gotten over the Iranian revolution, similar with Russia. They'll find a way to get a war, there was a fascist takeover in America a long time ago and they're still in charge

 

[Kanga Commando]

Reports of explosions in Syria and maybe Iran....

Alleged Israeli strikes reported in Iran, Syria, Iraq

Syrian reports indicated airstrikes targeted sites belonging to the Syrian Army in the As-Suwayda and Daraa Governorates of southern Syria.

www.jpost.com

 

[Demonic Ascent]

The US holds a grudge and still hasn't gotten over the Iranian revolution, similar with Russia. They'll find a way to get a war, there was a fascist takeover in America a long time ago and they're still in charge

I'm sure they'll find some ideological descendants of Shah Pahlavi they can put back in charge and bring back his SAVAK torture chambers and secret police with full CIA oversight.

 

[1990crow]

Reports of explosions in Syria and maybe Iran....

Alleged Israeli strikes reported in Iran, Syria, Iraq

Syrian reports indicated airstrikes targeted sites belonging to the Syrian Army in the As-Suwayda and Daraa Governorates of southern Syria.

www.jpost.com

I have a real bad feeling about this. Middle East is about to become a major conflict IMO.

Russia is winning in Ukraine and about to launch a summer offensive which will likely end Ukraine (Ukraine has no ammunition).

Australia and the world is ramping up military spending urgently.

China is becoming quite obvious with its intentions in the SCS and Taiwan.

 

[Kanga Commando]

I have a real bad feeling about this. Middle East is about to become a major conflict IMO.

Russia is winning in Ukraine and about to launch a summer offensive which will likely end Ukraine (Ukraine has no ammunition).

Australia and the world is ramping up military spending urgently.

China is becoming quite obvious with its intentions in the SCS and Taiwan.

Not good any way we look at it

 

[Cyber_punk]

So Israel have just attacked Iran, Syria and Iraq all at the same time.

Buckle up and hope Biden doesn't take the bait when more retaliations come back Israel's way.

 

[Saint Shags]

Unconfirmed news reports that explosions caused by an Israeli fired missile.

 

[Lia]

So Israel have just attacked Iran, Syria and Iraq all at the same time.

Buckle up and hope Biden doesn't take the bait when more retaliations come back Israel's way.

At what point do you cut them (Israel) loose?

 

[owen87]

At what point do you cut them (Israel) loose?

If Israel committing a plausible genocide hasn't caused it, I'm not sure what will

 

[1990crow]

At what point do you cut them (Israel) loose?

A month ago would have been nice.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

they are probably too scared to cut them loose now considering Israel have nukes and are probably more likely to use them then any country is.

 

[the_interloper]

Reports of explosions in Syria and maybe Iran....

Alleged Israeli strikes reported in Iran, Syria, Iraq

Syrian reports indicated airstrikes targeted sites belonging to the Syrian Army in the As-Suwayda and Daraa Governorates of southern Syria.

www.jpost.com

Didn't take long, interesting how hard they're going to go

 

[Saint Shags]

Didn't take long, interesting how hard they're going to go

Surely it now doesn't matter how hard they go. They've taken that next step. There will be a response from at least Iran you would think.

Its like watching a car crash in slow motion.

 

[mellowyellow]

OMG I hoped that Israel would not escalate the already tense relationships with its neighbors but its attacks on Iran today will ignite the middle east into huge war that will have major global consequences. Strap in folks this will get ugly very quickly.

 

[1990crow]

OMG I hoped that Israel would not escalate the already tense relationships with its neighbors but its attacks on Iran today will ignite the middle east into huge war that will have major global consequences. Strap in folks this will get ugly very quick.

Yep. Not good.

 

[ibd77]

Does Iran have nukes? because we are going to find out very soon I suspect.