- May 27, 2017
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I'd be pretty disappointed if we traded Carlisle, would much prefer he stays. Unless he wants to leave, I guess.
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Bizarre unless it's purely Carlisle driven.
Hannebery (27 now 28 yo) in. Hill being heavily courted (26). Goldstein also looked at (31).
But then potentially trade out their 1 prime aged key defender who has met contract clauses. Leaves them with kids (Wilkie, Battle, Clavarino) and senior depth (Brown, Marsh). - Austin in the middle but 20 games at 24 years old probably leans him towards depth. Not sure any of the 3 young guys are suited to pure full back roles, all seem to be best utilised in 3rd tall roles due to intercept marking.
I understand Jack Steven being traded out.
But Carlisle confuses me. Saints aren't an especially young team but they could use extra senior prime players (hence Hannebery, B.Hill). Saints fans any insight into a club direction? Expectations on how far away contending is?
I don't think we're close to challenging to be honest. So on that basis Carlisle could potentially been as surplus to requirements. He is a solid KPD, but Battle is younger and has more potential. Carlisle is also not a leader in any way.
I reckon it's very safe to say that we won't be trading Jake unless we have a Tomlinson/Keath (who we are both meant to be into) in the bag.
One of them, Battle and Wilkie ought to be plenty.
None of them necessarily super-suited to FB, but neither is Jake.
He's very good at taking intercept marks, but very poor generally at defending 1-on-1.No room for Austin? He was good last year before injury. Surely the Saints would persist with him.
Tomlinson is far from a key defender.I reckon it's very safe to say that we won't be trading Jake unless we have a Tomlinson/Keath (who we are both meant to be into) in the bag.
One of them, Battle and Wilkie ought to be plenty.
None of them necessarily super-suited to FB, but neither is Jake.
That would be setting off alarm bells for me if your trading out Carlisle to bring in Keath who’s the same age, would point towards you don’t trust Carlisle’s back or maybe something to do with attitude. I’m sure clubs would be wary of thatI reckon it's very safe to say that we won't be trading Jake unless we have a Tomlinson/Keath (who we are both meant to be into) in the bag.
One of them, Battle and Wilkie ought to be plenty.
None of them necessarily super-suited to FB, but neither is Jake.
No room for Austin? He was good last year before injury. Surely the Saints would persist with him.
Forgot about Darrygh (butchered spelling no doubt) Joyce too? His role going forward?
He's very good at taking intercept marks, but very poor generally at defending 1-on-1.
I don't tend to watch what he's doing that closely at the games, but those who do say he doesn't get within about 5-10m of whoever he's playing on! Just plays super-loose.
He's kind of out-of-sight, out-of-mind, given that he's been injured pretty much all year.
With Battle playing that sort of role (but closer checking), he might struggle to get a look in.
Not sure what the double grab is about, he was a ridiculous strong mark in the hands in his time with us. Biggest issue was his unwillingness to play forward which for a bloke who kicked 8 in a game once (only done by Buddy, BBB, J Cameron, J Riewoldt and both Tom Lynch’s in terms of active players) was bewildering. Unfortunately we had 2 of the top 5 or so KPDs in front of him and a whole host of other challenges.Carlisle is the perfect fit for the hawks, great disposal, guards space well.
Would be the perfect swingman if he didn't double clutch everything when in the forward line.
Carlisle is the perfect fit for the hawks, great disposal, guards space well.
Would be the perfect swingman if he didn't double clutch everything when in the forward line.
Not sure what the double grab is about, he was a ridiculous strong mark in the hands in his time with us. Biggest issue was his unwillingness to play forward which for a bloke who kicked 8 in a game once (only done by Buddy, BBB, J Cameron, J Riewoldt and both Tom Lynch’s in terms of active players) was bewildering. Unfortunately we had 2 of the top 5 or so KPDs in front of him and a whole host of other challenges.
Not sure what the double grab is about, he was a ridiculous strong mark in the hands in his time with us. Biggest issue was his unwillingness to play forward which for a bloke who kicked 8 in a game once (only done by Buddy, BBB, J Cameron, J Riewoldt and both Tom Lynch’s in terms of active players) was bewildering. Unfortunately we had 2 of the top 5 or so KPDs in front of him and a whole host of other challenges.
Kennedy?Biggest issue was his unwillingness to play forward which for a bloke who kicked 8 in a game once (only done by Buddy, BBB, J Cameron, J Riewoldt and both Tom Lynch’s in terms of active players)
St Kilda don't need a salary dump, we need elite skilled players (who doesn't).You would expect the Dogs to get Keath and Bruce so they are unlikely to get Carlisle.
If the Hawks want to trade for Carlisle and they agree to pay most of his remaining salary, would the Saints then potentially let him go for a 3rd round pick?
You don't get rid of donkeys like Stringer and Dahlhaus only to bring in one like Carlisle. Strong, strong no.
LOL, Saints are only offloading him if he gets the pick picks to the land the players they are seeking.
No good offers and he stays.