Judd Vs Chapman

[Rod Stroker]

I like Judd but to me Chapman is the better player because he is better in more aspects of the game than Judd.

 

[BABYBOMBERS2007]

Chapman very much better.

judd cant even kick straight.

 

[KennyHunter9]

Hilarious seeing all the bitter and twisted Hawks supporters on this thread.

I can think of two reasons why they're bitter and twisted:

- First time around they could have got him but didn't

- Second time around he didn't even want to talk to them

Either way, the there's plenty of bitterness in the lemon and mission brown.

 

[GordonGecko]

Bingo, there is no way I would want Hawthorn paying 1.3 million a season over 5 years, for a bloke who isn't even the best mid in the comp.

If Judd was on a reasonable salary then Judd.

But he is.

And it's a reality you will have to come to grips with.

No midfielder can drag their side over the line, as often, in such a profound way, like Judd.

None.

He has been doing it near on 10 years. It's been a decade of brilliance and he isnt done yet.

Legend of the game and he's still playing.

Chapman is good for what he is, but no Judd.

 

[HyperAgressiveDonk]

But he is.

And it's a reality you will have to come to grips with.

No midfielder can drag their side over the line, as often, in such a profound way, like Judd.

None.

He has been doing it near on 10 years. It's been a decade of brilliance and he isnt done yet.

Legend of the game and he's still playing.

Chapman is good for what he is, but no Judd.

Nah. I will take the bloke who won 3 MVPS in a row and is probably Geelongs greatest ever footballer.

Ablett is just as good inside as Judd, is as quick as Judd and as strong through the hips as Judd. Yet Ablett finds more of the ball than Judd, is a better goal kicking midfielder than Judd and a much better decision maker and kick than Judd.

I know you love Chris Judd, but Ablett is better. By a way as well. 3 MVPS don't lie.

 

[Maddhew]

Judd by the length of the flemington straight.

Judd = Premiership, Premiership Captain, 5 Time AA, AA Captain, Norm Smith, 2 Brownlows, Players MVP, 5 B&Fs, Rebecca Twigley and has at least 4 seasons left.

Anyone who thinks he wont go down as an absolute all time great of the game has rocks in their head.

Still like Chappy though

 

[GordonGecko]

Nah. I will take the bloke who won 3 MVPS in a row and is probably Geelongs greatest ever footballer.

Ablett is just as good inside as Judd, is as quick as Judd and as strong through the hips as Judd. Yet Ablett finds more of the ball than Judd, is a better goal kicking midfielder than Judd and a much better decision maker and kick than Judd.

I know you love Chris Judd, but Ablett is better. By a way as well. 3 MVPS don't lie.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

There has been no better finals performer this decade and unlike Ablett who played with a selfish tinge, Judd is all about the team, the hard ball and has an appetite for the contest which is incredible to watch.

The Leigh Matthews trophy will become a thing of the past.

MVP will be renamed the Judd Trophy.

 

[Bring back Moloney]

Judd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chapman

Proof:

This is not proof. If we're talking the ability to kick freaking goals from anywhere, then Chapman has Judd covered by a long way!

As for the actual question..... Very hard. Probably not a fair comparison, but if I HAD to choose, maybe, I'd go Judd..... But maybe not. Chapman is just so damn important to us! I think I'll choose Chapman, if only because it'd hurt to much to NOT!

 

[Cursed Cat]

yeah, veeeery hard to go against Chappy.

But the reality is that Judd's resume alone gets him over the line.
His days with the WCE were exceptional, and although he isn't as dynamic in his Carlton incarnation, he is clearly a superb onfield leader.
At his best he is explosive, when he gets his sidestep going (which can desert him) he is literally unstoppable.
But even if he is a little down on sparkle, he still contributes mightily with his clearance and hard-ball winning.

Chapman doesn't have Judd's devastating ability to burst, my gf laughs as she watches his little Fred Flintstone legs in motion.
But he shares Judd's ability to influence a contest through a combination of skill, smarts and sheer will.
He's more damaging by foot than Judd, and a better overhead mark.
His record in finals is excellent.
His resume isn't too shabby; not a single Brownlow let along two, but he has a Norm Smith medal and was in the raffle for the '07 Normy too.
He's got only a solitary Carji medal, and a brace of All Australian selections.
Apart from competing with the likes of Abett, Bartel, Scarlett and Corey for B&F votes, he has also suffered injury setbacks which have seen him miss at least a handful of games most seasons.
One could argue that Judd's multiple B&F's says as much about the uneveness of his team in some of his winning years as it does of his undoubtedly quality output.

If I were picking a team to play for your life, Chapman wouldn't be far behind Judd in the selections I wouldn't think.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Give me Judd easily...

unless in finals then chappy

Rediculous. Judd is arguably the best finals performer over the last decade. His '05 amazing, his two elimination finals in the past two years exquisite and his '06 finals series was something else again.

As to the question, don't know, it would depend on team balance. Chappy has this amazing ability to turn like a truck on NOS in the forward line and snap the goal. Does it every time. He is reliable and is physically imposing.

Judd is the best clearance player we've seen in a long, long time. He gets epic hardball and even when he's not getting disposals he is taking three men down as they try to tie him up.

If I had to choose, I'd take Judd. In fact, he'd be the player I would pick first and foremost to build a team around. Could possibly take the Blues to within spitting distance of the premiership in the next few years. That would be some achievement.

Also, Judd has been doing what he's best at for much, much longer than Chappy.

 

[Partridge]

Nah. I will take the bloke who won 3 MVPS in a row and is probably Geelongs greatest ever footballer.

Ablett is just as good inside as Judd, is as quick as Judd and as strong through the hips as Judd. Yet Ablett finds more of the ball than Judd, is a better goal kicking midfielder than Judd and a much better decision maker and kick than Judd.

I know you love Chris Judd, but Ablett is better. By a way as well. 3 MVPS don't lie.

You forgot one. Ablett's also a much better mark than Judd too.

 

[bluepride]

Judd by that much it isnt funny.

Im talking mostly from West Coast days, he was just unbelievable.

Those first few years will go down as the best performance from a youngster of all time.

Even now he still manages to put in great performances exactly when the team needs it.

Chapman is a great player but Judd is a few levels above him.

 

[Claude Balls]

Chapman is actually a more complete player than Judd, being a forward-midfielder with a better kick and a better mark.

Judd is the better player though.

 

[ashs35]

Can someone tell me if Judd is still as good as he was at West Coast? cos a lot of people here still seem to think he is, but I can't see it..

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

There has been no better finals performer this decade and unlike Ablett who played with a selfish tinge, Judd is all about the team, the hard ball and has an appetite for the contest which is incredible to watch.

The Leigh Matthews trophy will become a thing of the past.

MVP will be renamed the Judd Trophy.

Hmm opinions, eh?

Chapman is a better finals performer, relevant of you to bring that up. Ablett himself a better finals performer also.

Your opinion on the MVP trophy is...interesting.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Open your other eye.

It depends on the need of your team.

We have plenty of inside ball winners and don't need anymore. That's Judds #1 strength. He doesn't kick many goals, hardly ever takes an overhead mark and his disposal is questionable at best.

Our team needs someone to rotate through the midfield, kick goals and play the lead up forward role.

Despite BF's misnomer that we lack in the midfield it is actually our forward line that is deficient.

Horses for courses.

Open the other eye? We're talking Judd here. Like really....open the other eye...bloody hell. While your overall reasoning has merit your first statement alleging one-eyed bias, given the player we're talking about, is plainly stupid.

Can only happen on BF that anyone is stupid enough to compare Judd and Chappy as the OP has.

 

[Jimthegreat]

I like Judd but to me Chapman is the better player because he is better in more aspects of the game than Judd.

Your username is appropriate in this case. Any one who says Chapman is better than Judd knows nothing about football...period! As that's still allowing for the fact that Chappy is an absolute gun.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Two great players but I would take chapman.

Chapman kicks the big goals in the big games. Judd will never do that.

You never did see the EF last year, especially the 3rd qtr, I take it. So if you want to talk big games and the ability to play under pressure there is no better than Judd. Judd will literally "will" a side over the line almost on his own. Chappy could only hope to play that well in his dreams.

As brilliant as Chappy is, and I'd have him at Carlton every day of the week, it's a big extra jump in class.

 

[Faz 2000]

The thing I like best about these guys is how they lift in the big games, when it matters.

Happy with Judd, and a big Chapman fan, too.

When you need something to happen in the middle, you can bank on Juddy getting it done. When you need a goal kicked, Chapman does. not. miss.

 

[Partridge]

Rediculous. Judd is arguably the best finals performer over the last decade. His '05 amazing, his two elimination finals in the past two years exquisite and his '06 finals series was something else again.

Very arguably. Scarlett's every bit as good, so is Chapman, and so is Ablett. Hayes is pretty bloody useful in finals as well.

 

[andypie]

Who would you prefer to have in your team, Chris Judd or Paul Chapman?

I just checked and can confirm it is not April Fools Day.

p.s Judd easily

 

[laminex]

Who would you prefer to have in your team, Chris Judd or Paul Chapman?

Both please.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Your username is appropriate in this case. Any one who says Chapman is better than Judd knows nothing about football...period! As that's still allowing for the fact that Chappy is an absolute gun.

You're blinded by bias.
Chapman is the better field kicker, mark, tackler and goal kicker. He is a more complete footballer.

 

[Scott Emberton]

the OP cannot be serious. Has Geelong love blinded him to the point where he could put these two on the same page. I dont like Judd much but in recent years he has NEVER been outside the best 3-4 players in the comp. Chapman has NEVER been in the top 10. Geelong supporters annoy me sometimes. Get some perspective ffs

 

[Military_man]

Nothing special?

What about those 2 little things around his neck?

Judd has one of them already and a Norm Smith