Welcome Kyle Hartigan joins the Hawks in a trade from the Crows

[Turly]

Pulling out the big guns.

 

[Cyclonus]

He's not bad one on one or intercepting, in my opinion. Just limit his kicking.

 

[Turly]

Don't mind it though if I'm being honest. We needed another big body with Chip retiring.

 

[Bardo State]

Added a competent, mature 100kg defender without giving up picks. Sensible business even if 3 years is pushing it.

I think some posters got mesmerised by Hartley's peg and didn't notice him panic a bit against big guys under a high ball...

 

[eldorado]

Really not sure about this move. Don't think we need to add another 29 year old to the team.

Not ideal, but seeing as we just said goodbye to 4 32 year olds, we can probably take on a pensioner...

 

[crowsarethebest]

He can fill a more than adequate role on the gorilla forwards. He's pretty quick and strong - only issue is that he is an absolute liability with the ball in hand. I feel like him and Talia both are pretty limited as rebounding defenders, both are very much stoppers - but in a side with a better balanced backline, Harto should do a good job.

Best of luck to him!

 

[Gralin]

We had Frost, Kosi, Hartley and BB as our options for Key Defender next year, assuming that all four of them were still on our list end of trade period

With Sicily out and Chip retired we absolutely needed someone. He's not costing us any picks or players to get so he's a good ready made stop gap option

 

[BIGHAWK23]

By sitting Kicks around him like Scrimma, Greaves, Day, Hardwick (expecting him to be better next season), it allows him to just be a stopper, which is what we need

 

[PAOKTSIS]

He'll do just fine for the next 3 years whilst we're drafting and developing younger key defenders.

He seems very similar to Chip, which is fine by me.

And we're getting him for free.

 

[Books]

Surprising but I will trust the club again.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Also with the only 1 real KPD in the draft (DGB, who we will likely miss on), it allows us to attack a mid in the draft without immediate worry of who will play defence, also if we were to get DGB, allows us to bring him in and play a 3rd tall role

 

[Nastyfish]

He'll do just fine for the next 3 years whilst we're drafting and developing and younger key defenders.

He seems very similar to Chip, which is fine by me.

And we're getting him for free.

From a crows mate: “ Horrible, horrible decision maker. You s**t yourself every single time he goes near the ball. Is big and strong though which is why he gets a game. I am very surprised anyone would offer him 3 years. Clarko must see something no one else does“

 

[Dixie Flatline]

Really not sure about this move. Don't think we need to add another 29 year old to the team.

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He's a depth signing. Wouldn't expect him to be getting too many games in 2022 and beyond, but fills an immediate need in 2021.

 

[PAOKTSIS]

From a crows mate: “ Horrible, horrible decision maker. You s**t yourself every single time he goes near the ball. Is big and strong though which is why he gets a game. I am very surprised anyone would offer him 3 years. Clarko must see something no one else does“

So he's mostly another Frost with a bit of Chip in him lol?

 

[Gralin]

He'll do just fine for the next 3 years whilst we're drafting and developing and younger key defenders.

He seems very similar to Chip, which is fine by me.

And we're getting him for free.

Lets see if Kosi gets an extension, he turns 21 next year, should be at the point where he starts getting games

 

[Gaston]

He's not bad one on one or intercepting, in my opinion. Just limit his kicking.

oh cr@p, same scenario we had with Stratton and Frawley.
Will still be hand over eyes stuff for Hawks supporters when the ball is in our defenders hands.

 

[Mercy Seat]

I'm getting deja vu. Pretty sure this is the same reaction as when we signed Frost.

 

[VandoHawk]

He's a depth signing. Wouldn't expect him to be getting too many games in 2022 and beyond, but fills an immediate need in 2021.

You don’t sign a player for 3 years just for depth. I’m expecting him to start R1 as a direct replacement for Chip and (if his form is good) stay there for the next few years. I have mixed feelings but I also thought Henderson was a spud and he proved me very wrong. Hopefully this also means Smith is staying because we’d receive 0 compensation if he leaves now.

 

[MrPremiership]

He's not free.

If Smith leaves we won't be getting any compo. So his acquisition costs us that compo, likely 30s-40s area

 

[Rioli magic]

“We need to attack the draft and pick up some FA’s as cover as they don’t cost picks or players to acquire”

Hartigan to Hawthorn as an UFA.

“The club is stupid WTF are they doing”

 

[Pessimistic]

Crows supporters will be saying good riddance. Perineal whipping boy

Was that word intentional

 

[Gralin]

He's not free.

If Smith leaves we won't be getting any compo. So his acquisition costs us that compo, likely 30s-40s area

If he's not leaving then it's a free hit. If he is leaving would we have gotten a better option using whatever pick the AFL decided to give us to find someone who can play next year in our backline?

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

From a crows mate: “ Horrible, horrible decision maker. You s**t yourself every single time he goes near the ball. Is big and strong though which is why he gets a game. I am very surprised anyone would offer him 3 years. Clarko must see something no one else does“

honestly i think key defenders is the only role in the game where a non-supporter will have a better view of a player than supporters

there are exceptions but you'd have to think that most FB's that aren't top 5 but still good AFL players get canned pretty often and unjustly

like you see Frawley get outmarked by Kennedy after Eagles win a clearance and an inside 50 within 2.1seconds but it will be his fault and he's the worst defender in the game etc.

 

[Nastyfish]

Frost is 10,000x better then Hartigan?, show me facts rather then hot takes, emotional responses and potting list managers

Hartigan 8th in crows B&F this year

 

[MrPremiership]

If he's not leaving then it's a free hit. If he is leaving would we have gotten a better option using whatever pick the AFL decided to give us to find someone who can play next year in our backline?

Who knows what other options are available, but my point that he's not free if Smith leaves. He then has a cost.