Lloyd or Lucas at Full Forward ??

[Legend Lucas]

My opinion is that next yr we have to play Scott Lucas at full forward and play Lloyd at centre half forward . When the team was up and going at the start of the year it was Lucas who was kicking the goals and playing deeper in our forward line . The last 3 or 4 yrs Lucas has been a far better player then Lloyd and i worry about Lloyds future as his pace has gone as he cant get space on the lead and isnt strong enough to out wrestle the gorillas in the goal square. People are saying trade Lucas but if u had to trade one of them it would have to be Lloyd even though i wouldnt trade either . One positive thing about Sheedy going is that Lucas should never be played at centre half back again !

Our forward line and backline are strong enough this draft should only be about midfielders !

 

[bomberstomake8]

My opinion is that next yr we have to play Scott Lucas at full forward and play Lloyd at centre half forward . When the team was up and going at the start of the year it was Lucas who was kicking the goals and playing deeper in our forward line . The last 3 or 4 yrs Lucas has been a far better player then Lloyd and i worry about Lloyds future as his pace has gone as he cant get space on the lead and isnt strong enough to out wrestle the gorillas in the goal square. People are saying trade Lucas but if u had to trade one of them it would have to be Lloyd even though i wouldnt trade either . One positive thing about Sheedy going is that Lucas should never be played at centre half back again !

Our forward line and backline are strong enough this draft should only be about midfielders !

why cant we play both as full forwards?, it is possible for both to work in that role. i cant see how you think lloyd is far worse then lucas at the momment, lloyd kicked what was it like 18 goals in 4 games or something, (and in these games we had been getting consistently flogged, 63 points to fremantle and hawthorn, 34 points to richmond), thats not an easy effort. if you saw some of the marks he was taking you know he still has the capacity to kick 100 goals in a season...

what we need though is davey and jetta firing next to lloyd and lucas. we need the crumber at the front of the pack.. i guess it all depends on wehter gumbleton can develop quick enough. we need a good CHF.. lloyd i dont think can forfil that role quite as well as lucas... if gumby can step up (or even put mcphee as CHF) and play good footy then i think we can afford to have lucas and lloyd coming out of the square with davey jetta and co crumbing at the front...

 

[windyhill]

Lucas much better around the ground as a leading forward and brilliant down back as well. Lloyd FF.

 

[NathanS]

I'd be more keen to keep it Lloyd at FF, and Lucas at HF, and then see who fires.

If Lloyd fires (as he has a couple times this year as well), keep him up there. If Lucas gets on fire, then play him FF, and try to isolate him in a one on one situation.

 

[Darealrath]

Just keep switching them. Not many teams have 2 defenders capable of stopping both.

 

[OzBomber]

Guys, just remember that Lloyd still had more goals than Lucas this season.

Yesterday was a good time to have Lucas at full forward. I didn't even see Lloyd, he was no where to be seen in that last quarter.

Edit: Just noticed that Lloyd had 62 and Lucas had 61. My bad.
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GAY ASS

 

[bombersrbest05]

Lloyd still has the a good chance in kicking 100 goals ina season, you have to remember he missed a few games with injury and suspension
I still think he is one of the leagues best full forwards when he is hot there no stopping him

 

[Duckworth]

I think that both could be better under the new coach. Compared to other teams we really don't utilise screening as much as we should. Lloyd has shown he can consistently take a mark he just needs to be one pace in front of his opponent. Hopefully we get Hardwick and he can set up the forward line game plan. Hawthorn are pretty good at it. Our forward line players are better than Hawthorns we just need a better game plan.

I think Lloyd at FF and Lucas at CHF. Switching is good because it keeps the opposition guessing and doesn't let the opposition set up against us... well hopefully.

 

[Boris_Bewick]

Just keep switching them. Not many teams have 2 defenders capable of stopping both.

Agreed. Lloyd has shown over the last month or so that he is back. You look at his stats yesterday and it seems as if he didn't do much. But I thought, watching the game he was one of our better players.

 

[dapto]

Just keep switching them. Not many teams have 2 defenders capable of stopping both.

If they cannot get the pill then it hardly matters

 

[Ari]

Lloyd FF.
Lucas CHF.
Simple.

Obviously more them around a little depending on the match ups.

 

[Tambu]

Lloyd FF.
Lucas CHF.
Simple.

Obviously more them around a little depending on the match ups.

 

[monty1104]

Now I know I'm going to get bagged for this, but I really think Lucas should go to CHB next year. That is the best way to develop our team, because it allows 2 things to happen.

1. Ryder can be our second ruckman, meaning we can finally get rid of Hille.
2. 2 of Bradley, Gumbleton and Neagle can play forward at the same time, alongside Lloyd. The more games we get into these 3 guys, the better off we will be in years to come.

In a perfect world, Yeah, Lucas would be the best option at CHF, but if we are to develop into the side we are capable of being, Lucas needs to go into defense.

 

[bomberstomake8]

Now I know I'm going to get bagged for this, but I really think Lucas should go to CHB next year. That is the best way to develop our team, because it allows 2 things to happen.

1. Ryder can be our second ruckman, meaning we can finally get rid of Hille.
2. 2 of Bradley, Gumbleton and Neagle can play forward at the same time, alongside Lloyd. The more games we get into these 3 guys, the better off we will be in years to come.

In a perfect world, Yeah, Lucas would be the best option at CHF, but if we are to develop into the side we are capable of being, Lucas needs to go into defense.

personally and i will probably get bagged for saying this to but if we are worrying about developing our players and getting the best team in the long run then lucas would be a potential trade.. if we traded lucas to someone like the bulldogs who would be willing to trade something very good for him...

i think lloyd and lucas and 2 of bradley gumbleton neagle or even johns could play in the same forward line IF we have the small forwards to back it up, we need davey and jetta fit and firing, aswell as possibly dempsey and lovett... of course we rotate those small forwards in the midfeild but we need them all in there to counter the tall forward line we would have..

in regards to the ryder thing i dont think hille will be traded so we wont need to worry about a second ruckmen... laycock will be there, but even if he is we can use bradley in the ruck aswell, would be good aroudn the grounds or even gumby..

 

[mojon95]

I'd be more keen to keep it Lloyd at FF, and Lucas at HF, and then see who fires.

If Lloyd fires (as he has a couple times this year as well), keep him up there. If Lucas gets on fire, then play him FF, and try to isolate him in a one on one situation.

Lloyd kicked more goals than Lucas this year

 

[blumfieldisback]

Lloyd still is our FF, he came back from a serious injury, how many games did jacobs play for hawks, lloyd will only get better i think the injury affected his kicking, he missed some very easy shots very un-lloyd like, scotty is a great decoy and just because he went sick against west coast in the last quarter he tends to go missing every now and then.