Just because we don't have matching bid ability doesn't mean we have no chance of getting him. We still could potentially get him with our first pick.
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Just because we don't have matching bid ability doesn't mean we have no chance of getting him. We still could potentially get him with our first pick.
That's not the point. We should be allowed priority access. I imagine if we were port in this situation we would be jumping up and down.
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That we could but it's a real bummer that the 1st time we look like possibly having a truly elite talent come through either our NGA Academy or Father/Son option thanks to the VAFL it's taken away. Of course it wasn't brought in when the Dogs had a free hit an elite talent matching wise...
Unfortunately with the number of recent high academy picks there were going to be teams who will miss out with the rule changes.
Unfortunately we are one of those teams, don't think there's anything that can be done.
If our club any balls we would be having an argument in the media over this
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Meanwhile Sydney, GWS, GCS and Brisbane continue getting sole access to their Academy lads....and haven't they done well out of that.
Yeah it's bullshit.
I did hear at first the clubs were trying to push for, any player who was already in an academy before the rule changes were announced should still be able to have bids matched.
What happened to that?
It's not an unreasonable request.
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Can't match up to and including pick 20 this season and pick 40 next year (Isaac Keeler).
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I really like the idea of trading out next year's first round pick and getting an extra first this year. Aiming for two of Horne/Roberts/Draper.
If we could match Keeler it would still leave us effectively with a first rounder next year.
I actually can picture Olsen talking about how unfair this is.
If we could match Keeler it would still leave us effectively with a first rounder next year.
I actually can picture Olsen talking about how unfair this is.
The conversation would have to start now for anything to happen.
I'll make some phone calls tomorrow.
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What did we even get in return of giving up access to our NGAs within top 40? Anything at all?
Sydney still get their academy talent, dont they?
Sydney still get their academy talent, dont they?
Nothing. And yes. It’s a joke.
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There is literally no point in doing it, the AFL have effectively blown the whole thing apart for the majority of clubs.
Shai Bolton’s was a chest mark.
Teams that have benefitted with top end talent with father son or NGA. Only other club that has struck out like us is St Kilda.
Adelaide - zzzzzzz
West Coast - Ben Cousins
Fremantle - Liam Henry
Port Adelaide - Brett Ebert, Taj Schofield, Lachlan Jones, Jackson Mead
Geelong - Tom Hawkins, Matthew Scarlett, Gary Ablett etc etc
Melbourne - Jack Viney
Hawthorn - Josh P. Kennedy
North Melbourne - Tarryn Thomas, Luke McDonald
St Kilda - zzzzz
Essendon - Dustin Fletcher, Jobe Watson, Joe Daniher
Dogs - Jamarra Ugle Hagan, Tom Liberatore, Lachie Hunter
Carlton - Jarrad Waite
Collingwood - Nick Daicos (2021), Travis Cloke, Darcy Moore, Isaac Quaynor,
Richmond - Matthew Richardson
GWS - Jacob Hopper, Harry Himmelburg, Will Setterfield, Matthew Kennedy, Harry Perryman, Tom Green
Sydney - Callum Mills, Isaac Heeney, Tom Mitchell, Nick Blakey, Braeden Campbell
Brisbane - Jonathan Brown, Eric Hipwood
Gold Coast - Jack Bowes
Adelaide - zzzzzzz
West Coast - Ben Cousins
Fremantle - Liam Henry
Port Adelaide - Brett Ebert, Taj Schofield, Lachlan Jones, Jackson Mead
Geelong - Tom Hawkins, Matthew Scarlett, Gary Ablett etc etc
Melbourne - Jack Viney
Hawthorn - Josh P. Kennedy
North Melbourne - Tarryn Thomas, Luke McDonald
St Kilda - zzzzz
Essendon - Dustin Fletcher, Jobe Watson, Joe Daniher
Dogs - Jamarra Ugle Hagan, Tom Liberatore, Lachie Hunter
Carlton - Jarrad Waite
Collingwood - Nick Daicos (2021), Travis Cloke, Darcy Moore, Isaac Quaynor,
Richmond - Matthew Richardson
GWS - Jacob Hopper, Harry Himmelburg, Will Setterfield, Matthew Kennedy, Harry Perryman, Tom Green
Sydney - Callum Mills, Isaac Heeney, Tom Mitchell, Nick Blakey, Braeden Campbell
Brisbane - Jonathan Brown, Eric Hipwood
Gold Coast - Jack Bowes
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Sydney have Guiden too
And here I was thinking we were getting academies like Sydney not going the other way.
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Don’t worry they will realise their mistake and when the Vic clubs finances bounce back they’ll lobby the AFL to reinstate NGA rights to all players... after we’ve missed out on Keeler
I’ve never understood the thinking that academy picks for all clubs water down the draft. Sure early on when the pot luck aspect of the zones allowed clubs to benefit without putting any investment into the player’s development.... but just as it was becoming a reward for developing players who had been in these squads/academies for a number of years and clubs who had invested in these players were about to benefit the AFL change the rules.
The time for questioning it has passed and they’ll never change it to allow us access once a player like Keeler is on everyone’s radar. (Much like they didn’t change our Father/Son access when Gibbs was in play for Pick 1).
At the very least, the clubs who were yet to match a bid on a top 20 talent should have had access to matching rights for one kid already in their academy over the next two years. This would allow clubs to adjust budgets etc... for the academies to better reflect the chance of only landing a late 2nd Round/Early 3rd Round prospect.
The AFL have completely muffed NGA’s while retaining the Northern Academies with the new rules but it’s the clubs let it happen. It was a golden opportunity that the AFL squandered because they didn’t want to prop up the poorer clubs in this area.
Tex as a NSW scholarship player.
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