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[SpiderBurton22]

I see nothing wrong with this paragraph....I lold

There you go, have a like to keep that ratio up.

 

[Gasometer]

There you go, have a like to keep that ratio up.

It took 5 years to bridge that gap when they changed to this new format.

I can retire like Spitta or be sacked by Scotts now.

 

[StiffArm]

Dunno Stiffy,

Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.


I at times get very frustrated with our input and it would seem we expect a different outcome from said same input. Last season I was mortified by our direction and a couple of things our coach said. So if we kept making the same mistakes every week- was I not entitled to mention the same thing every week? It wasn't like I was hanging onto the past- this nightmare was unfolding for the best part of 3 months.

I get what you're trying to achieve, it is foremost on the individual to maintain their a) dignity and b) composure. Losing your shit from time to time should be ok- Was H2H who said it best.

Just move on through.

Not sure I agree with you on the proposal being censorship. People would still be able to post what they like everywhere else.

Unfortunately H2H was spot on with the mods already being overworked, at which point the idea falls apart. I'll compromise on the free speech by giving myself the freedom to call out crap where I see it

 

[naturally north]

Not sure I agree with you on the proposal being censorship. People would still be able to post what they like everywhere else.

Unfortunately H2H was spot on with the mods already being overworked, at which point the idea falls apart. I'll compromise on the free speech by giving myself the freedom to call out crap where I see it

Absolutely- just don't fall for the "LOL crap-trap" If you feel someone has posted a remark you don't agree with. explain why and normally shit works out fairly well for all comers.

 

[adrenalinjunkie]

Not sure I agree with you on the proposal being censorship. People would still be able to post what they like everywhere else.

Unfortunately H2H was spot on with the mods already being overworked, at which point the idea falls apart. I'll compromise on the free speech by giving myself the freedom to call out crap where I see it

Yeah, well the Yanks would say that the solution for crap speech, or illogical speech, or boring tedious speech that drives people up the wall is not a set of rules & regulations to curb or restrict it, but ... more speech. So you say what you like to explain why the earlier speech was crap/illogical/tedious or all of the above. Or you just blow off your own head of steam.

But yeah, who'd be a mod? Tough enough being a North supporter and that's in a good year.

 

[StiffArm]

Yeah, well the Yanks would say that the solution for crap speech, or illogical speech, or boring tedious speech that drives people up the wall is not a set of rules & regulations to curb or restrict it, but ... more speech.

You only have to have a glance at their cable TV to see how that is working out for them. They get a partisan hack from each side who then spend a few minutes both talking at the same time until the moderator sighs that they are out of time.

So you say what you like to explain why the earlier speech was crap/illogical/tedious or all of the above. Or you just blow off your own head of steam.

But yeah, who'd be a mod? Tough enough being a North supporter and that's in a good year.

That's what I'm worried about. I actually love arguing, and having completed a degree in philosophy on the side of my engineering bachelors I like to consider myself somewhat good at it. Thing is I'm not enough of a campaigner in my day to day to get much opportunity to argue. I don't want to make the mods jobs any harder than they need to be

 

[ChopChopDigDig]

You were probably concentrating on Benny slotting the joe the goose, but if you looked back at Swallow you would have seen the Etihad roof open a slither and a golden ray of light beam down on St Andrew.

Funny, that beam was seen last week when Swallow kicked his first goal in three seasons too...

 

[sootyfive]

Jacobs waite wright anderson wood . We aint doing too badly covering injuries.

 

[The Other Dean]

Gibson - Seemed to play a negating role on Hunter and kept him in check but made some bad turnovers. 5/10

Yeah, nah....nah.

Just watched the replay and made note of all his possessions (happy to post them here if required) and the bolded absolutely did not happen at all.

To hone it down....

He had 11 kicks. 8 of those were short passes of which he ostensibly nailed all 8. (One was finger-tip touched along the way but still found its intended target on the full. There was also a questionable skied pass to BBB in there, too, but it also found it's target...eventually.) Of the other 3 kicks, one was a narrowly missed shot on goal, and the other 2 were hacked kicks under pressure to contests (and were absolutely not turnovers).

He had 9 handballs. 5 of those hit the target and the other 4 were either smothered or handballs squeezed out while being tackled, of which exactly none resulted in a turnover to the opposition.

And to silence any accusation of bias here, if you check you'll see the above is confirmed by the stats. He didn't register a single clanger for the game.

0 clangers = 0 turnovers

So, no, he didn't actually make any "bad turnovers" on Friday at all. You did get the Hunter bit right though.

 

[Frank Thring]

Yeah, nah....nah.

Just watched the replay and made note of all his possessions (happy to post them here if required) and the bolded absolutely did not happen at all.

To hone it down....

He had 11 kicks. 8 of those were short passes of which he ostensibly nailed all 8. (One was finger-tip touched along the way but still found its intended target on the full. There was also a questionable skied pass to BBB in there, too, but it also found it's target...eventually.) Of the other 3 kicks, one was a narrowly missed shot on goal, and the other 2 were hacked kicks under pressure to contests (and were absolutely not turnovers).

He had 9 handballs. 5 of those hit the target and the other 4 were either smothered or handballs squeezed out while being tackled, of which exactly none resulted in a turnover to the opposition.

And to silence any accusation of bias here, if you check you'll see the above is confirmed by the stats. He didn't register a single clanger for the game.

0 clangers = 0 turnovers

So, no, he didn't actually make any "bad turnovers" on Friday at all. You did get the Hunter bit right though.

Um. Ok.

 

[Just4Kicks]

I'm not sure if this was covered already: Cunnington clearly best on ground for us, had the lowest TOG of all players. I thought he worked on his fitness levels, can't he really stay on the park a little longer? Might have been the difference in winning or losing this game.

 

[Zebrah]

Yeah, nah....nah.

Just watched the replay and made note of all his possessions (happy to post them here if required) and the bolded absolutely did not happen at all.

To hone it down....

He had 11 kicks. 8 of those were short passes of which he ostensibly nailed all 8. (One was finger-tip touched along the way but still found its intended target on the full. There was also a questionable skied pass to BBB in there, too, but it also found it's target...eventually.) Of the other 3 kicks, one was a narrowly missed shot on goal, and the other 2 were hacked kicks under pressure to contests (and were absolutely not turnovers).

He had 9 handballs. 5 of those hit the target and the other 4 were either smothered or handballs squeezed out while being tackled, of which exactly none resulted in a turnover to the opposition.

And to silence any accusation of bias here, if you check you'll see the above is confirmed by the stats. He didn't register a single clanger for the game.

0 clangers = 0 turnovers

So, no, he didn't actually make any "bad turnovers" on Friday at all. You did get the Hunter bit right though.

Ha ha - bang! Brilliant. Gibbo had a really strong game, but I guess it is easier to go with the group think.

 

[Dirty_11]

Yeah, nah....nah.

Just watched the replay and made note of all his possessions (happy to post them here if required) and the bolded absolutely did not happen at all.

To hone it down....

He had 11 kicks. 8 of those were short passes of which he ostensibly nailed all 8. (One was finger-tip touched along the way but still found its intended target on the full. There was also a questionable skied pass to BBB in there, too, but it also found it's target...eventually.) Of the other 3 kicks, one was a narrowly missed shot on goal, and the other 2 were hacked kicks under pressure to contests (and were absolutely not turnovers).

He had 9 handballs. 5 of those hit the target and the other 4 were either smothered or handballs squeezed out while being tackled, of which exactly none resulted in a turnover to the opposition.

And to silence any accusation of bias here, if you check you'll see the above is confirmed by the stats. He didn't register a single clanger for the game.

0 clangers = 0 turnovers

So, no, he didn't actually make any "bad turnovers" on Friday at all. You did get the Hunter bit right though.

Does he go to one of the Hill boys this week?

 

[kaboom kid]

Yeah, nah....nah.

Just watched the replay and made note of all his possessions (happy to post them here if required) and the bolded absolutely did not happen at all.

To hone it down....

He had 11 kicks. 8 of those were short passes of which he ostensibly nailed all 8. (One was finger-tip touched along the way but still found its intended target on the full. There was also a questionable skied pass to BBB in there, too, but it also found it's target...eventually.) Of the other 3 kicks, one was a narrowly missed shot on goal, and the other 2 were hacked kicks under pressure to contests (and were absolutely not turnovers).

He had 9 handballs. 5 of those hit the target and the other 4 were either smothered or handballs squeezed out while being tackled, of which exactly none resulted in a turnover to the opposition.

And to silence any accusation of bias here, if you check you'll see the above is confirmed by the stats. He didn't register a single clanger for the game.

0 clangers = 0 turnovers

So, no, he didn't actually make any "bad turnovers" on Friday at all. You did get the Hunter bit right though.

Great post. That's a typical Gibbo game for me. Ugly but effective. He knows his limitations and largely chooses kicks he can make. Don't try and do anything flash, just get it into the hands of someone who can really hurt the opposition. Makes good decisions about when to kick or handball. Plus he runs really hard both ways and makes life difficult for his opponent. That's why he's a favourite with match committee. Jack Ziebell is a far better kick technically, a prettier kick, if you will but would question whether he's mire effective than Gibbo. You could argue he takes on more difficult kicks I guess. Jack is a great kick for goal though.

 

[astrovic]

Great post. That's a typical Gibbo game for me. Ugly but effective. He knows his limitations and largely chooses kicks he can make. Don't try and do anything flash, just get it into the hands of someone who can really hurt the opposition. Makes good decisions about when to kick or handball. Plus he runs really hard both ways and makes life difficult for his opponent. That's why he's a favourite with match committee. Jack Ziebell is a far better kick technically, a prettier kick, if you will but would question whether he's mire effective than Gibbo. You could argue he takes on more difficult kicks I guess. Jack is a great kick for goal though.

Agree with all that, although it is never good when he gets forced to kick on his left. In slow mo you can actually see him say "I'm so sorry" as he kicks it.

 

[kaboom kid]

I took a look at the replay yesterday and took particular notice at players with and without the ball and how they position themselves and what they were doing when they didn't have the ball. I will be honest, i would need to rewatch it at least 3 more times to do this exercise justice but these are my initial observations for each player.

Williams - Good game and takes calculated risks coming off his man, forced turnovers and showed good speed in the contest. Continued his good early season form. 7/10

Tarrant - Bit of a mixed bag from Robbie, did some great body work and did some poor work as well. Dropped a few marks but overall beat his opponent. 6/10

Hansen - Bit of non descript game from Lachie, i have a feeling that he was lead away from the corridor by his opponent (s) nullifying his intercepting but i would need to look at that more closely. Seemed to be always a few metres from the contest. 5/10

Mullet - Liked his game live and even more on the replay. Was good one on one and showed real zip and composure out of D50. Some of his kicks set up transition. Very good game 7/10

Atley - Like Lachie, a non descript game from him. Had a a couple of "good minutes" but faded out as quickly as he burst in. Needs a spell. 3/10

Thompson - Surprised me with his courage and he didn't once act or feign for a free. Maybe he read my editorial crucifixion of his courage on the internet highway . His disposal was average and made two poor skill errors that resulted in a direct shot on goal. 6/10

JMac - Average game by our VC and as a fan of his, he has been below average this year. Offers no run and seems to be preoccuppued watching where his teammates are positioned than his own. Got caught out behind his man too often and is not reading the game like he was in previous seasons. I reckon his intercepting is down this year. 3/10

Cunnington- Superb, played a lone hand and was immense in the contest. Spread from the contest the best ive seen from him in a while and looks hungry. 9/10

Higgins- Down on his standards but was okay. 6/10

Garner - Butchered the ball BUT he kicked that clutch goal at the end so for me his fitness is not where it should be due to injuries so that is going to come. Love his smirky arrogance. His pressure inside 50 is awesome, never gives up and repeatedly has 2 to 3 efforts in the one play. Cant wait for Wood to come in and plays next to him. 6/10

Turner - Like Garner offers a lot in pressure and tackling but for me he looks for the tackle too much instead of going for the ball. I would like to see him a have bursts on the ball and tell him to be aggressive at the ball. 5/10

Dumont - A good game from Trent and is coming along nicely. Did a lot of defensive work at the contest which is a waste as he can use the ball. 6/10

Thomas - Uuurgh, a terrible game from Lindsay and not the first one either after round 4. His pressuring was no where near Garner, Higgins and Turner inside 50 and kept looking for cheap goals. Too much seagulling around packs. He also needs a spell. 2/10

Brown - A very good game from Brown often taking on 2 players at each contest. Worked very hard all game and kicked 4 goals. Dropped two sitters but he was probably exhausted. 8/10

Goldstein - An okay game who should have taken advantage of their ruck sitiation but didn't. He would have won that game for us if he was in 2015 form. No in close work from Goldy where his quick hands would get a touch of the footy causing a spill, his control of the ball in close is non existant. Stood around too much when the ball was in dispute from a ball in or up. 5/10

Preuss - Did some nice things and continues to be a surprise packet. Didn't run out the second half well and like Goldy failed to capitalise on the ruck situation. However he did make efforts at the contest after a ball up or in. Threw his body around and caused some rushed opposition possession with his presence. 5/10

Gibson - Seemed to play a negating role on Hunter and kept him in check but made some bad turnovers. His role needs to be transitioned to someone else who can offer more moving the ball forward. 5/10

Simpkin - He positions himself very well around the contest and knows when to go for the ball. Laid some great tackles. His set shots obviously needs improving but his fitness and strength is no where near AFL level so watch out when it is. 6/10

Zeibell - Shees this was an interesting game from the Captain. I thought he was going to win us the game when he went permanently forward with his mini impact at the start of the last. Some of his dosposal was woeful. I would like Jack across half back like Hodgy and moving on to the ball when we are losing the contested ball. He needs the play in front of him. 5/10

Swallow - Tried so hard but it's gone passed him. The play where he burst out of a centre square contest and turned to see a Bulldogs player on his hammer so he falls to ground trying to duck under him reeked of it. He limps a handball while on the ground and the ball is turned over. It was a momentum killer. Needs a spell. 3/10

LMac - Threw himself at the contest (literally) and i quite liked his game. No glaring errors, good one on one although beaten in a marking dual by a bigger opponent inside 50. He had a spurt on the ball late in the third i think and i liked what i saw. Great positioning around the ball. Holds his feet and strong in the contest. This guy needs to rotate with Cunners. 7/10

Hrovat - I liked his game. Set up well behind the ball and used the ball well. He is getting better each game. 7/10

Therefore after Werribee has now played and an eye to blooding more younger players, my changes would be:

Out: Swallow, Atley, Goldstein, Hansen, Thomas
In: EVW, Clarke, Mountford, Daw, Anderson

Lineup against Freo:

B: Williams Tarrant EVW
HB: Zeibell Thompson Mullet
C: Clarke Cunnington Higgins
HF: Simpkin Brown Garner
F: Turner Daw LMac

R: Preuss Dumont Anderson

Em: Gibson Mountford Hrovat JMac

Great post but don't hold your breath on those changes would be my advice. I suspect you would get a good response from those players if you dropped them though. Seemed to work for Atley a year or so ago. Thompson was decent apart from those horrendous turnovers. At least looks like he is having a dip. After you pointed out that he wasn't putting his body on the line I watched for that but he was actually quite brave in that contest with Boyd.

 

[kaboom kid]

Agree with all that, although it is never good when he gets forced to kick on his left. In slow mo you can actually see him say "I'm so sorry" as he kicks it.

Like that ad when the kid is about to the knife in the toaster.......Giboooooo Noooooo

 

[Frank Thring]

Great post but don't hold your breath on those changes would be my advice. I suspect you would get a good response from those players if you dropped them though. Seemed to work for Atley a year or so ago. Thompson was decent apart from those horrendous turnovers. At least looks like he is having a dip. After you pointed out that he wasn't putting his body on the line I watched for that but he was actually quite brave in that contest with Boyd.

Yep I've acknowledged that Thompson showed courage against the dogs. Hopefully he keeps that up as he is best 22 when he does.

 

[kaboom kid]

Yep I've acknowledged that Thompson showed courage against the dogs. Hopefully he keeps that up as he is best 22 when he does.

Yeah I saw that. Hopefully he continues to improve, had been a mediocre few years since that AA year.

 

[kaboom kid]

Funny, that beam was seen last week when Swallow kicked his first goal in three seasons too...

Perhaps we need that little touch of the divine to get us over the line in close ones?....hold on, we have been playing Andrew....come on God, what more do we have to do?

 

[koshari]

Agree with all that, although it is never good when he gets forced to kick on his left. In slow mo you can actually see him say "I'm so sorry" as he kicks it 4 rows into the crowd.

Efa

 

[koshari]

Perhaps we need that little touch of the divine to get us over the line in close ones?....hold on, we have been playing Andrew....come on God, what more do we have to do?

Surely your win/loss ratio of the close ones says something about the coaches matchday attributes?

 

[kaboom kid]

Surely your win/loss ratio of the close ones says something about the coaches matchday attributes?

 

[astrovic]

Efa

Speaking of out of bounds on the full - what was the deal with that last weekend? It's like Scott played someone at centre half crowd.

Quite ironically the only player who didn't kick it over the fence was Gibbo. Everyone else had a go at it.

 

[ferball]

Yeah, well the Yanks would say that the solution for crap speech, or illogical speech, or boring tedious speech that drives people up the wall is not a set of rules & regulations to curb or restrict it, but ... more speech. So you say what you like to explain why the earlier speech was crap/illogical/tedious or all of the above. Or you just blow off your own head of steam.

But yeah, who'd be a mod? Tough enough being a North supporter and that's in a good year.

Yeah? Well they just put Donald Trump in charge of their nuclear arsenal so their ideas are up for a bit more scrutiny these days.