Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XVII

[doug85]

 

[Ati Tude]

I am dying for some Caroline Wilson

You’re sick man, very very sick.

 

[Lore]

Secret from who? Secret from the player, the club, the medical records, the league's books, SIA/WADA, or the public?

There is secret and there is private, not the same thing and most of the stuff we're hearing definitely falls under the latter.

SIA/WADA are interested in clean competition, not clean athletes, so it makes sense they wouldn't care overly much.

The more interesting thing is probably from a responsible employer/safe workplace/family-friendly reputation kind of situation. It's more likely to cause reputation damage than anything else, especially from the point of view of politicians that jump up and down about safe injecting rooms and that kind of thing.

The players might have things to say too. Not all of them would want to be under suspicion of taking illicit drugs when they have food poisoning or cut their hand when they broke a plate while microwaving a steak for dinner.

There are certain sectors of the AFL's target demographic, in particular the "culturally and linguistically diverse" and female demographics, and especially people who fit both categories, that would not encourage, condone or even allow their family members to participate in a sport that is known for an illicit drug culture.

I don't think the AFL is going to fine itself for bringing itself into disrepute though.

 

[Lore]

Oh and there's always strands in the cable too.

 

[owen87]

microwaving a steak for dinner.

We know this one is real because it's way more embarrassing to be identified as the guy microwaving a steak than the guy snorting lines.

 

[ghostdog]

I don't think the AFL is going to fine itself for bringing itself into disrepute though.

Damn it. I logged in to write this, thinking I was so witty.

 

[Koopa]

I am dying for some Caroline Wilson

Thhhirsty for thum Carwo

 

[Call Me Cake]

There are certain sectors of the AFL's target demographic, in particular the "culturally and linguistically diverse" and female demographics, and especially people who fit both categories, that would not encourage, condone or even allow their family members to participate in a sport that is known for an illicit drug culture.

Are you implying that only those who identify as "culturally and linguistically diverse" (what an odd label to use, all people are a part of diversity) and females would be the only ones who would "not encourage, condone or even allow" their family members to participate in a sport that is known for an illicit drug culture? Are you implying that certain demographics are morally superior to others?

The idea that people's kids, family or friends are entering into anything where drugs are condoned or encouraged by omission creating alarm is something that is universal across all humans who value a lifestyle free from toxic addictions that can ruin someone mentally and physically. This isn't something that is exclusive to any race or gender, this is something a wide majority of people push back against (which is self evident in the nature in which it is viewed as a result of it being a potential scandal). And, anyone regardless of race or gender are prone to condone it too. For you to imply the opposite and make it a race/gender thing is just ridiculous.

 

[ghostdog]

Are you implying that only those who identify as "culturally and linguistically diverse" (an odd label to use - all people are a part of diversity) and females would be the only ones who would "not encourage, condone or even allow" their family members to participate in a sport that is known for an illicit drug culture? Are you implying that certain demographics are morally superior to others?

The idea that people's kids, family or friends are entering into anything where drugs are condoned or encouraged by omission creating alarm is something that is universal across all humans who value a lifestyle free from toxic addictions that can ruin someone mentally and physically. This isn't something that is exclusive to any race or gender, this is something a wide majority of people push back against (which is self evident in the nature in which it is viewed as a result of it being a potential scandal). And anyone, regardless of race or gender are prone to condone it too. For you to imply the opposite and make it a race/gender thing is just ridiculous.

I don't think that was the crux of Lore's post. But it certainly was overt in yours.

 

[Old Campaigner]

 

[justlookingaround]

I’m not really sure what the overall feeling is towards these developments…
But I gotta say, I’m not really that outraged to be honest.

 

[Call Me Cake]

I don't think that was the crux of Lore's post. But it certainly was overt in yours.

A side point doesn't need to be the crux of a post to be addressed as ridiculous.

 

[Call Me Cake]

 

[Lore]

Are you implying that only those who identify as "culturally and linguistically diverse" (what an odd label to use, all people are a part of diversity) and females would be the only ones who would "not encourage, condone or even allow" their family members to participate in a sport that is known for an illicit drug culture? Are you implying that certain demographics are morally superior to others?

The idea that people's kids, family or friends are entering into anything where drugs are condoned or encouraged by omission creating alarm is something that is universal across all humans who value a lifestyle free from toxic addictions that can ruin someone mentally and physically. This isn't something that is exclusive to any race or gender, this is something a wide majority of people push back against (which is self evident in the nature in which it is viewed as a result of it being a potential scandal). And, anyone regardless of race or gender are prone to condone it too. For you to imply the opposite and make it a race/gender thing is just ridiculous.

“Culturally and linguistically diverse” was in quotes for a reason… not my words. It’s in the AFL’s rule book with regard to NGA eligibility.

Getting more women and girls playing footy is also obviously a pathway that they are trying to develop at the grassroots in order to support an AFLW competition. Again that is the AFL’s stated intention.

Men’s football leagues are at saturation point across most of the country, and it is culturally engrained for little boys who do not qualify as “culturally and linguistically diverse” to spend a childhood with a footy in their hands.

But if you really want to argue the impact this could have on growth opportunities for the code among rusted on rugby nuts in the northern states, I won’t stand in your way.

 

[fairbump_playon]

Now we know players missed games for fake reasons is anyone else wondering about Joe Daniher's umm... persistent osteitis pubis injury?

I mean I would almost be relieved to know it was drugs instead of just couldn't be effed playing for Essendon.

 

[Pweter]

Now we know players missed games for fake reasons is anyone else wondering about Joe Daniher's umm... persistent osteitis pubis injury?

I mean I would almost be relieved to know it was drugs instead of just couldn't be effed playing for Essendon.

No

 

[mcgrath_truther]

100% drapes was busy on the gear in the second half of last year

 

[fairbump_playon]

No

Yep, a move to the hard summer grounds of Brisbane always instantly fixes OP

 

[fairbump_playon]

100% drapes was busy on the gear in the second half of last year

#afllifestyle

 

[Kong]

Are you implying that only those who identify as "culturally and linguistically diverse" (what an odd label to use, all people are a part of diversity) and females would be the only ones who would "not encourage, condone or even allow" their family members to participate in a sport that is known for an illicit drug culture? Are you implying that certain demographics are morally superior to others?

The idea that people's kids, family or friends are entering into anything where drugs are condoned or encouraged by omission creating alarm is something that is universal across all humans who value a lifestyle free from toxic addictions that can ruin someone mentally and physically. This isn't something that is exclusive to any race or gender, this is something a wide majority of people push back against (which is self evident in the nature in which it is viewed as a result of it being a potential scandal). And, anyone regardless of race or gender are prone to condone it too. For you to imply the opposite and make it a race/gender thing is just ridiculous.

You may as well just write #notallwhitemen and be done with any future posts, bud.

 

[ghostdog]

A side point doesn't need to be the crux of a post to be addressed with a ridiculous over reaction.

FTFY

 

[andleanback]

Now we know players missed games for fake reasons is anyone else wondering about Joe Daniher's umm... persistent osteitis pubis injury?

I mean I would almost be relieved to know it was drugs instead of just couldn't be effed playing for Essendon.

The two that really stand out are Oliver last year, the 12 week lingering hamstring and buddy franklin in 2012?,

 

[yodellinhank]

This is the crux of it now given the AFL have come out saying what's reported is their medical model.

I seen the start of Talking Footy where Brayshaw went on the attack for the AFL. Trying to conflate the illicit drug policy with the WADA to muddy the story seems to be the tactic. "It's a health response".

Pretty sure one of the strands in our cable was we ran blood checks on the players- "why do that if you're not cheating?!"

Also seemed to criticise the doctor discussing his work as if he was breaching some sort of confidentiality.

Criticised Wilkie using parliamentary privelege "...so he couldn't be cross-examined" and why the government should be getting involved. I dunno, maybe the hundreds of millions of dollars they're spending...

 

[ghostdog]

So, following yodellinhank's lead, maybe the phrases used in injury reports can be decoded...
Test = drug test
Managed = waiting for the substance to be out of the player's system
General soreness = nostrils still stinging from that coke burn*




* I have no idea if nostrils sting from coke burn

 

[ghostdog]

Also, I just realised the scale of Gumby's 'injury'. I hope he found the help he needed. Those 'injuries' can tear families apart.