Pick your National Draft Selections

[Bay Pie]

Josh Thomas

Michael Barlow

Myles Pitt

Simon Buckley

I've been keeping an eye out for the players we've been linked too also.

30 - Luke Ball (if gone, Josh Thomas)

62 - <will wait until Burgatrons draft for an idea of some guys in our mix) Possibly Chris Irving

75 - Myles Pitt (possibly at 62)-side note: JMacs' cousin.

85 - Simon Buckley

Claye Beams to get rookied by us if not drafted in ND.

Hine has tended, to take underage Vic kids, best available with 1st 2 round picks and fill positions vacated by retirements/delistings after that. Very difficult to do that this year with no 1st rounder and no underage kids.

Out:
Bryan-Ruck
Rocca - Key forward
Stanley - In and under midfielder
Cox - Winger/HBF
Clarke - running defender

In:
Ball/Thomas - In and under midfielder
Buckley - Flanker/winger
Pitt - Lead up forward (191cm)
Chris Irving - Not real sure on his position- likely a flanker/winger??

Also:

Jolly - Ruck

 

[magpiemagic]

30_ thomas/bartlet 62-hill/dare 75-pitt/thompson 85-irving/tutt

 

[tuckey]

Pick-30 Thomas / Bartlett
Pick-62 Sehat / Hill
Pick-75 Thorp / Casboult
Pick-85 Tutt / Duryea

 

[ash84]

What about Dylan Robertson, Sheehan has him in his top 30, but haven't heard much about him.

 

[knightwheelrqr]

I still think our biggest priority is to get a KPD > KPF > Quick mid with good footskills.

Problem is there doesn't seem to be too many top quality KPD in the draft and it also seems thin on outside mid type players.

This is how i'd go:

Pick 30: Ball > Panos > Griffiths > Moore > Bartlett > Thomas

The problem being there is every chance those guys will be picked up earlier but then I guess there is a good chance atleast one will slide.

Pick 62: Hartigan (is this too low??) > Tighe > Temel

I have the feeling we will go midfielder with our first selection unless Panos or Griffiths fall. In that case it's a good chance that we will look for a KP type at 62. After Presti retires outside of Reid and Brown we don't have any KPD depth to speak of. Leigh Brown is a short term option, Keeffe may develop into this role but is still a long shot, Goldsack doesn't seem to have the body type to play as a KPD. My priority would be KPD.

Pick 75: Robertson > Beams

Gotta say Snoop your mock sold me on Robertson. Another mid prospect looking at good kicking skills and pace is what i'd be after here. Or if we pick one up earlier perhaps an inside type as there is good depth in this draft and chances are a good player may fall.

Pick 82: Harding > Buckley > Sewell

I think we may look to some experience with a later pick. I think Harding is a good option as he adds speed to our midfield. Buckley perhaps to try and mould into a tagger/inside mid and ditto Sewell.

Pick 30: Luke Ball/ Troy Taylor/ Josh Thomas (Ball is the clear 1st choice, but Taylor I think although I know you disagree would be a nice fit, just really think he will make it, just have that feeling. Thomas would be a solid pick, just thinking he might go at 27.)

Pick 62: Kyle Hartigan (Hope he drops, key position defender who I see as a Brian Lake type, would be a good compliment for our excisting crop of young defenders)/ Serhat Temel (Can play both ends but looks like a real footballer, see him more as a key position forward than back, has size and overhead as strong as anyone).

Pick 78: Jason Tutt (Small down back, has a nice penetrating boot.)

Pick 92: Daniel Harris (To give us the inside help)/ Robert Shirley (If we get Ball)

Also in our draft calculations:
Claye Beams, Myles Pitt (KPP, late if at all could be an option if we decide to go with x2 KPP).

I'm going with 1-2 mids. And atleast 1 key position player, 2 if we are not satisfied with the one we have, but if Hartigan don't think we will need a 2nd.

 

[Frankie23]

Pick #30 - Luke Ball

Pick #62 - Myles Pitt

Pick #78 - Kallen Geary

Last Pick, whatever it is - Simon Buckley if available or else someone like Temel

 

[TradeDraft]

My Thoughts on Pick 30

I think we have 3 Players we will take at Pick 30 and I would be suprised if there any Others.


Luke Ball - Wants to be a Magpie but Our 1st Pick might be too late in the Draft.

Troy Taylor - Linked with Him Very Heavily This Week, Is a High Risk High Reward Pick because of his Off Field Problems
but has Massice Upside to his game. Could Easily Fall to 30 because of his Off-Field Problems and His poor Draft Camp goes against Him

Video of Taylor - http://www.mediafire.com/?wyznm1yiyz2


Josh Thomas - Been Linked with him nearly all year. Friends with Beams, Who even talked him out of staying with the GC Side. Also Heard he has Trained at Lexus Center. Inside Mid with Good Skills and Pace.

Video of Thomas - http://www.mediafire.com/?wyznm1yiyz2

 

[mattys123]

Re: My Thoughts on Pick 30

I don't know a lot about Taylor, but he does sound a little Chris Eganish to me.

Am I right in saying he has a similar look to Egan at the same age, or is there something that sets them apart?

I still like Thomas as our first pick, that hasn't changed.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Re: My Thoughts on Pick 30

I don't know a lot about Taylor, but he does sound a little Chris Eganish to me.

Am I right in saying he has a similar look to Egan at the same age, or is there something that sets them apart?

I still like Thomas as our first pick, that hasn't changed.

when we recruited Egan he was more a HF with a heap of x factor. I think he had a TAC game where he got 40 touches and Judkins seemed to rate that pretty highly. was also a year when they wanted an x factor player.

taylor is similar in height etc but tends to play more as a key fwd (he will be a third tall for a few years at least at AFL level). Egan was an outside player as well whereas Taylor will win his own footy.

When you think of some of the games Egan played its a shame that kid didnt do more. I often think that night in Adelaide and his subsequent injury chnaged his career for the worse.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Pick 30: Thomas. I think clubs undervalue those kids outside the states of Vic, SA, and WA, and I think Thomas looks to be a great in and under line breaker, something we don't have.

Others: Be happy with any of Panos, Griffiths or Crichton if they slip. Crichton has that great natural playing ability inside and out.
Personally I would be unhappy with Fitzpatrick, we don't need a tall skinny ruck, and a major flaw is he has chronic fatigue syndrome which will severely restrict the amount of running and weights he can do, would prefer Gawn if we went ruck. Another is Troy Taylor, been in trouble with the law, and said to have poor work ethic and I don't see the amazing ability as some do, plus we have an overflow of flankers.

Pick 62: Temel. Might as well draft the big man, as we are lacking KPF in reserves besides Dawes. These picks will be hit and miss, and I am not expecting a champion from these last few picks.

Pick 75: Ah Chee. Leading disposal winner at the champs, with 26 disposals per game, he however was not invited to draft camp and thus could slip through to the rookie draft, though he did really well at SA State screening. I think he could become a great AFL tagger as he has the speed and endurance to do so, could be a steal.

Pick 85: Sewell. I'd prefer to go a mature ager with this pick, instead of waiting for the pointless PSD. Sewell still needs to put some serious weight on as he still looks fairly skinny.

Nice post. Would be happy with this albeit I think a KPD will be in there somewhere.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Pick 30: Luke Ball/ Troy Taylor/ Josh Thomas (Ball is the clear 1st choice, but Taylor I think although I know you disagree would be a nice fit, just really think he will make it, just have that feeling. Thomas would be a solid pick, just thinking he might go at 27.)

Pick 62: Kyle Hartigan (Hope he drops, key position defender who I see as a Brian Lake type, would be a good compliment for our excisting crop of young defenders)/ Serhat Temel (Can play both ends but looks like a real footballer, see him more as a key position forward than back, has size and overhead as strong as anyone).

Pick 78: Jason Tutt (Small down back, has a nice penetrating boot.)

Pick 92: Daniel Harris (To give us the inside help)/ Robert Shirley (If we get Ball)



Also in our draft calculations:
Claye Beams, Myles Pitt (KPP, late if at all could be an option if we decide to go with x2 KPP).

I'm going with 1-2 mids. And atleast 1 key position player, 2 if we are not satisfied with the one we have, but if Hartigan don't think we will need a 2nd.

Temel played CHB at start of the year for Cannons and was terrible. He is a FF for mine - possibly CHF. Its why I think he will go late bc he doesnt offer great versatility.

Hartigan at 62 is a chance for mine as he wasnt great this year.

Totally agree on Harris and Tutt as well and would be very happy with this.

Myles Pitt is a good selection. I have him in the next 10. Very aggressive but not sure he can play KP at AFL level.

 

[knightwheelrqr]

Temel played CHB at start of the year for Cannons and was terrible. He is a FF for mine - possibly CHF. Its why I think he will go late bc he doesnt offer great versatility.

Hartigan at 62 is a chance for mine as he wasnt great this year.

Totally agree on Harris and Tutt as well and would be very happy with this.

Myles Pitt is a good selection. I have him in the next 10. Very aggressive but not sure he can play KP at AFL level.

Who are your dream selections at each spot Snoop?

Have anyone on your radar that you think may be a chance at one of the Collingwood selections that I havn't related back to Collingwood in any of my posts?

 

[Couch Coach]

I havn't done as much research this year as I usually do but here are mine:

I see our number 1 weekeness as speed outside the pack with good delivery. Our current speedsters in Wellingham/Jono/Jaxon all have queries on delivery. Others may say that we need more backup on talls but realistically talls aren't going to be ready for AFL in the next 3 years or so and that's what I think our flag window is.

Therefore Pick 30: Callam Bartlett / Jesse Crichton / Troy Taylor / Travis Colyer / Luke Ball in that order.

Backup tall for or second pick:
Pick 62: Kyle Hartigan / Serhat Temel / Sam Reid / Josh Thomas (Overrated as 2nd round pick I believe, likley a 3rd round IMO)

Best Available:
Pick 75: Sean Tighe / Trent Dennis-Lane / Myles Pitt / Myles Sewell / Andrew Hooper / Garrck Weedon

Mature Body:
Pick 85: Robert Shirley / Simon Buckley / Daniel Harris / Clay Beams

With Adelaide having a similar window to us Shirley could also give us some insight into Neil Craig's coaching which could help the entire team.

 

[iGNITER]

30 - Luke Ball

62 - Michael Barlow

 

[the mighty T]

pick 30 - Luke Ball/Callum Bartlett

Pick 62 - Sam Reid/Alex Carey

Pick 78 - Myles Sewell

Pick 92 - Daniel Harris/Clay Beams

If we end up with ball, then i dont think we'll need harris as much, so i think clay could be good value here

recruiting mature agers like sewell and harris would put some pressure on the 22 to perform, plus with bigger bodies than the kids gives us a lot more to work with

 

[daics cousin]

I think we are set for young Key Defenders, with Ben Reid and Nathan Brown more then ready to take over, and even Blight could play a key role.

I see the forward line as a large problem in the future, with Davis, Medhurst, Rocca (gone already obv) leaving the area in the next 2-3 years, and I have serious concerns over Dawes and his development.

I really like the look of Fowler as a medium forward in the Medhurst mold, and Temel can be a cover for Dawes.

Thomas' engine is one factor that stands out to me, and I can see him developing into a very good inside mid long term.

Beams would just be a nice selection to have at the club, ensuring his brother's long term future too.

I take your point,even when Mehurst ,davis and Rocca who has already left.......We should still be ok in the forward line with Anthony,Dawes,Cloke and whoever we pick up in this years draft..Temel would good insurance in case Dawes or Rusling doesn't work out.
We will be right.Medhurst has really got another 3 years left
macaffer,Rusling, still are very young,plus dids is what 26?Another 4-5 years left.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Who are your dream selections at each spot Snoop?

Have anyone on your radar that you think may be a chance at one of the Collingwood selections that I havn't related back to Collingwood in any of my posts?

I think between us we have canvassed a few.

Here are some thoughts;

# 30

Panos - I am really impressed with him and thought his champs were first class. I dont buy this stuff around weak FB's. A lot of the BF posters I know watch a lot of junior footy / connected to clubs will tell you he will slip so if he was called at #30 I would be really happy.

Moore - Thrilled if we got him. He can do everything and in two years time will be a Callan Ward style player. He is also very much a Hine type player. I know you are a fan and have him higher and I think thats probably fair.

Bartlett - I think he could slip albeit some of the late mail is that he is rising. Was a definite top 10 at start of the year so thats fair enough. Am told he has recovered really well and another who is just a class act.

Carey - Look he gets sandbagged on this forum a lot and suspect its bc of his televised champs game where there were a few missed handballs. BUt I saw two of his other games and some footage of his SANFL games and he is good. His skills are very good as his decision making. I agree he may not be that quick but you dont need 22 quick players........somebody has to get it and dish it out to the right bloke. Its interesting reading the Side by Side book - this skill is v highly rated.

Others: Happy with Josh Thomas but rate the others higher. I also think Sheppard / Duncan could slip and wouldnt be at all surprised if Lucas is a big slider but not quite to us.

# 62

For me its Temel. From what I understand the Dees, Tigers, Blues and ourselves are into him but he isnt in the mix for anyone else. He has polarised recruiters from what I am hearing. For me, he takes a good contested mark and knows how to play FF and can kick. He does need to improve his agility a bit.

If Panos did hit us then you would look at mid here and for me I would be rapt to get Sumner. Again not that highly rated but for me has explosive pace and a really penetrating kic. WOuld love him. TUtt and Ledin would be others.

# 75

Weedon. Originally had him higher bc I thought his testing was better than it was. When I went back and saw it was average I had him as a slider. But there is no doubt he is very talented. This kid has an extra half a second to make a decision. If he can get fitter his agility will allow him to be an incredibly difficult guy to play against. For a #75 he is a walk up start.

Tighe / Roberton / Dare / Luff / Hartigan - I have no doubt that one of the selections will be a KPD any realistically any of these at the 2-4th selections would please me. DOnaldson I think will go pretty high so will be out for us unless he is #30.


# 85 - Claye Beams. An acorn never falls far from the tree and from what I have seen of Claye he looks the goods. Cricket was his priority and then he wanders down to Labrador post pre season - plays in the ressies and kills them - gets lifted to the seniors for 6 games and goes really well - and then goes back to the ressies to make sure he qualifies for the finals and the recruiters got a better look at him. A roughie but I would take it.

 

[Snoop Dog]

I havn't done as much research this year as I usually do but here are mine:

I see our number 1 weekeness as speed outside the pack with good delivery. Our current speedsters in Wellingham/Jono/Jaxon all have queries on delivery. Others may say that we need more backup on talls but realistically talls aren't going to be ready for AFL in the next 3 years or so and that's what I think our flag window is.

Therefore Pick 30: Callam Bartlett / Jesse Crichton / Troy Taylor / Travis Colyer / Luke Ball in that order.

Backup tall for or second pick:
Pick 62: Kyle Hartigan / Serhat Temel / Sam Reid / Josh Thomas (Overrated as 2nd round pick I believe, likley a 3rd round IMO)

Best Available:
Pick 75: Sean Tighe / Trent Dennis-Lane / Myles Pitt / Myles Sewell / Andrew Hooper / Garrck Weedon

Mature Body:
Pick 85: Robert Shirley / Simon Buckley / Daniel Harris / Clay Beams

With Adelaide having a similar window to us Shirley could also give us some insight into Neil Craig's coaching which could help the entire team.

Think all of that makes sense. Have been a lone voice in saying that I would go a kid at #30 and then take Harris last. I think thats a better option. If we get Ball will be happy but Bartlett at 30 and Harris at 85 is a win for me. Temel and Hartigan / Tighe in the middle work for me to.

Good post.

 

[Quicky]

It'll be really interesting how the draft pans out for us.

Whether or not Ball gets through to us and if not who we pick.

Even what types of players we are likely to target. We could go anything from KPD, KPF, outside mid or inside mid or even best available.

It's also interesting that Tom Young is spending so much time training with the club. Does that mean we may not look at drafting a KPD as we see him as comparable quality in the same position??

I'd be interested to hear your views on some of the KPD'd in this draft Snoop?? Do any look like they will be AFL standard players that we could pick at 30 or our later picks??

 

[TradeDraft]

Snoop What do you think of Troy Taylor?

Doubt Moore/Sheaprd would still be there at 30

How certain are we on Drafting Temel at 62? - Could be Pick 30 as well if we think he could go before pick 62. Could be our Replacement for Rocca.

Sumner I would be very happy at Pick 62 bit of a Hodge/Lonie type

Think Weedon will go early 2nd Round.


Tighe / Roberton / Dare / Hartigan - Would like any of these 2

 

[TradeDraft]

It's also interesting that Tom Young is spending so much time training with the club. Does that mean we may not look at drafting a KPD as we see him as comparable quality in the same position??

Heard he has Moved to Melbourne and will play with the VFL Side

 

[Quicky]

Heard he has Moved to Melbourne and will play with the VFL Side

That seems odd. I wonder how that affects his NSW scholarship status?? Where did you here that from Dave??

 

[wicksy]

Mine's probably a little cliche, but still, these are the players I believe we should take in the draft next week;

Pick 30 - Josh Thomas (If Luke Ball isn't available), Taylor if Thomas is taken

Do we really need another criminal in the team?



Pick 75 - Beams or Sewell (Although I doubt Sewell will last this long)

Pick 85 - Matthew Fowler or Beams (If we took Sewell, take Beams here).

Why would we take Beams at 75 if we know we could get him at 85?

 

[knightwheelrqr]

This is how the Collingwood selections work out in my mock draft as at current.

30 - Luke Ball (Inside mid, courageous and a leader who will add experience to a young midfield)
62 - Serhat Temel (Key position forward who is as good a mark as anyone in this draft, has nice footy brain)
78 - Kyle Hartigan (Key position back who is a little different to Brown/ Reid and will be a key position backman to have developing for now)
92 - Robert Shirley (To add an experienced tagger who is hungry for a premiership, might mean that Ben Johnson is released to the backline which I very much hope will be the case)

(Would have taken Tutt at 62/78 but think he might go earlier)
(At 30 if Ball is not available would think it would be one of Thomas/ Taylor)
(Also at 92 would think that Harris would be considered if Ball didn't happen at 30)

 

[dswan]

Luke Mcdonald Tall strong athletic and can kick goals.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/87069/default.aspx


go to draft machine then click fowards, kicking ability.

Serhat temel would be nice but we cant get him with our pick..