Training Pre Season - Who's deadset training the house down 2024 style.

[Kiama Chris]

Yeah, interview with Mark McVeigh on the official site after today's game. He said it was planned to give Adams today off and start him next week.

Sensible. Interesting that Parker will most likely play both games. Hope we use our depth to manage playing loads.

 

[the hypnotoad]

Fantasy ?

no thanks, i've already got a few

 

[caesar88]

Brodie Grundy

4

Brodie Grundy

Age

30

Ht

202cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.1

5star

HO

32.0

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

9.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

34.6

5star

D

13.8

4star

K

5.2

2star

HB

8.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

20.6

5star

had the most tackles today with 9. To put that into perspective the next-most were fellow newcomers Jordon & Roberts, with 3.

Pleasing signs of intent from three fresh faces.

 

[RilesMacca]

He was arguably our best today, but he had about five abysmal hack kicks out of the centre, all of which were lucky to be marked by our forwards.

Swans fans would hang Luke Parker up on a washing line by his ears and swing him around until he flew off into a different postcode if he did even one of them.

Yeah that's how I felt too. He had a great game but his kicking action really limits him on being able to kick those low flat deliveries & quick effective kicks in traffic. Because of that, when he's in congestion he'll try to find space to hack the ball forward or take on an opponent too many instead of giving a quick handpass. We all love his burst from stoppage and line breaking ability, but it's his inside midfield craft and polish I'd love to see improve in his game this year. Still had a great day out, improved his disposal as the game grew.

 

[RUNVS]

McDonald kicking 4 goals against GWS's defence is pretty damn impressive. They have one of the best defensive units in the game, especially with Sam Taylor

15

Sam Taylor

Age

24

Ht

198cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.1

4star

MG

130.5

2star

D

8.0

2star

K

2.5

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

60.8

1star

D

8.6

3star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

2.8

5star

MG

110.8

2star

there.

 

[Dubsforsam1]

McDonald kicking 4 goals against GWS's defence is pretty damn impressive. They have one of the best defensive units in the game, especially with Sam Taylor there.

Didn't seem that Taylor or Buckley was on Logan for much of the game though

 

[caesar88]

McDonald kicking 4 goals against GWS's defence is pretty damn impressive. They have one of the best defensive units in the game, especially with Sam Taylor there.

Four goals? Against GWS' defence? That is soooooo 2023 Hayden McLean in the wet

 

[BloodySwan]

The one thing that concerns me is that we don't do what the Dogs have done and fill too many specialist spots with midfielders.

I'd rather play a better play in their sub optimal position than a worse player in their best position

 

[Kiama Chris]

I'd rather play a better play in their sub optimal position than a worse player in their best position

There's a point where a "better" player is no longer better because he's playing in the wrong position. Balance is the key.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

There's a point where a "better" player is no longer better because he's playing in the wrong position. Balance is the key.

Depends on the player and team balance. Some have multiple strings to their bow and can play anywhere (Goodesy was a virtuoso of the entire orchestra string section) and others are pure specialists unable to play other positions (JPK was an example, where he was tried at HB but all the then alternatives were better).

Parker can definitely play a quality forward game. As some have suggested, he should and will play a fair bit of time forward. Thought he was pretty good yesterday and imo showed toughness and organisation Our forward line needs. Was delighted that Spike noted his efforts and hinted at the likely increased time forward for a Parker.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Depends on the player and team balance. Some have multiple strings to their bow and can play anywhere (Goodesy was a virtuoso of the entire orchestra string section) and others are pure specialists unable to play other positions (JPK was an example, where he was tried at HB but all the then alternatives were better).

Parker can definitely play a quality forward game. As some have suggested, he should and will play a fair bit of time forward. Thought he was pretty good yesterday and imo showed toughness and organisation Our forward line needs. Was delighted that Spike noted his efforts and hinted at the likely increased time forward for a Parker.

Where the Dogs have gone wrong is with McRae, Treloar and Smith. They lost Dunkley through playing him out of position/role. I think our list is much better balanced and we are less likely to make that error.

 

[Donza]

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/police-officer-beau-lamarre-sought-after-channel-10-star-jesse-baird-and-boyfriend-luke-davies-go-missing/news-story/0888823ec2b6465141677db667e134ab

Jesse Baird was supposed to be the goal umpire for swans v gws yesterday

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Where the Dogs have gone wrong is with McRae, Treloar and Smith. They lost Dunkley through playing him out of position/role. I think our list is much better balanced and we are less likely to make that error.

Agree.

McRae is a pure accumulating mid. He was as effective;as a half forward last year as Grundy was when playing as a KPF. At least Smith can play wing. (tho I don’t rate him as an inside or outside mid and I don’t get the fuss about him.)

It looks like a large number of players will be run through the mids. This should help mix and match against various Oppo. Blokes like McInerney and Parker are genuinely adaptable.

Different point entirely but I was delighted with how Grundy won clearances at a few stoppages. When he was an AA player at the Pies this was what he was renowned for.

 

[hashdag]

Didn't seem that Taylor or Buckley was on Logan for much of the game though

But that’s the point of having three tall options, to stretch the opposition, most of whom have two good tall defenders. He also dropped a couple that in a couple of weeks without the heat and resultant fatigue, we hope he will take.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/police-officer-beau-lamarre-sought-after-channel-10-star-jesse-baird-and-boyfriend-luke-davies-go-missing/news-story/0888823ec2b6465141677db667e134ab

Jesse Baird was supposed to be the goal umpire for swans v gws yesterday

who are all these people?

 

[momentbymoment]

Brodie Grundy had the most tackles today with 9. To put that into perspective the next-most were fellow newcomers Jordon & Roberts, with 3.

Pleasing signs of intent from three fresh faces.

I’m on the Brodie train (especially with the Pie subsidy). Nice to see a mobile ruck getting involved after the tap.

 

[bedford]

I have affectionately called Donza 'Bomza' for a while now, as they're the board's resident Bureau of Meteorology on game day.

Excuse me he doesn't use the BOM , i do , he uses charts from Norway or somewhere over there , thanks Bomford

 

[Donza]

Excuse me he doesn't use the BOM , i do , he uses charts from Norway or somewhere over there , thanks Bomford

au contraire.
I use the BOM. They are fantastic. Their AXS-C is the most accurate chart for Australia . Period.
The BOM uses the same charts (and others) ECMWF as is used by YR.No (Norway).

Moving on.
Its been a wet and cloudy summer for Sydney.
Would not be shocked if that continues for SCG home games till easter.

 

[bedford]

au contraire.
I use the BOM. They are fantastic. Their AXS-C is the most accurate chart for Australia . Period.
The BOM uses the same charts (and others) ECMWF as is used by YR.No (Norway).

Moving on.
Its been a wet and cloudy summer for Sydney.
Would not be shocked if that continues for SCG home games till easter.

Happy to continue to challenge

 

[BloodySwan]

There's a point where a "better" player is no longer better because he's playing in the wrong position. Balance is the key.

correct, that's why I don't get the issues in playing players out of their better positions.

Mills couldn't fit in our midfield, but we were better off having him play in defence than in the VFL
Papley is a better forward than a midfielder but we need him in the centre square at times as our midfield unit has been poor

If Horse would rather play Roberts and Campbell in defence then it's because the other defenders aren't good enough to kick them out, meanwhile the other midfielders are too good

 

[Donza]

My take is what is a current players output vs what is the ceiling of some of the newer players?

It seems as though the coaches are leaning into playing Roberts down back. They seem to see something there.
"Elite kicking" they say.
Maybe they see his output as having a higher potential, given a good run at things, than existing players. Like Lloyd.

 

[JackHiscoxWasFast]

My take is what is a current players output vs what is the ceiling of some of the newer players?

It seems as though the coaches are leaning into playing Roberts down back. They seem to see something there.
"Elite kicking" they say.
Maybe they see his output as having a higher potential, given a good run at things, than existing players. Like Lloyd.

Lloyd is very composed and a great decision maker. Matty’s reaction time needs to sharpen up massively before having a run at Lloyd. Don’t know how you coach / develop better reaction time but unlock that and Matty might make it.

 

[wolftone57]

who are all these people?

They are missing people. Maybe murdered as there was a lot of blood at one scene. On the national news. Every outlet.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

They are missing people. Maybe murdered as there was a lot of blood at one scene. On the national news. Every outlet.

Do not watch much television, other than a bit of sport.

Id read about the missing copper who was fond of tasering people.

 

[S120]

Didn't seem that Taylor or Buckley was on Logan for much of the game though

Logan kicked all four on Leek Aleer, who looks pretty exciting as an offensive/intercepting defender but has a looong way to go in terms of his defensive skills.

Good to see Logan kicking well and active already in the year but I suspect he’ll be playing on much stiffer competition almost every other week this year. Would take yesterday with a grain of salt.