Universal Love Princes Park - Jan 27th 2021 Update

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Elmer_Judd

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Wut? Am I missing the sarcasm?
Not really, not a big fan of governments giving stadiums vast amounts of money to upgrade stadiums like Geelong have gotten over the years.

A sizable portion of Richmond's upgrade of Punt Road came from their Fighting Fury supporter fundraiser, which is how it should be imo..
 

Canyouhearthedrums

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Not really, not a big fan of governments giving stadiums vast amounts of money to upgrade stadiums like Geelong have gotten over the years.

A sizable portion of Richmond's upgrade of Punt Road came from their Fighting Fury supporter fundraiser, which is how it should be imo..
I’m no fan either but I was referring to the suggestion that it doesn’t happen in the USA. Public money is consistently spent on stadiums there and its led to some disgraceful outcomes. It’s a hugely controversial issue.

This covers it well: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/11/sports-stadiums-can-be-bad-cities/576334/
 

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They may have to bring the start of the development forward, as we just passed Princes Park right now and there were a couple of fire trucks outside, and a few more heading down Royal Parade as I write, hope it’s a false alarm.
 

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Most likely a false alarm, though they tend to happen more during the week when techs forget to isolate the ASE (alarm signaling equipment) on the fire panel before their monthly/6 monthly/annual/5 yearly tests. Or when other tradies are doing works on non isolated systems, as dust will set off detectors.

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Whilst I am glad that this going ahead and excited with what it means for our AFLW side, it is bittersweet with the iconic Pratt Stand making way for the new facilities. This is also the final nail in the coffin for anyone who thought we could still play any AFL matches here with seating capacity set to reduce due to this.

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Whilst I am glad that this going ahead and excited with what it means for our AFLW side, it is bittersweet with the iconic Pratt Stand making way for the new facilities. This is also the final nail in the coffin for anyone who thought we could still play any AFL matches here with seating capacity set to reduce due to this.

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This is great for the footy club and the women’s game. Now all they have to do is build a facility at Princes Park that makes it a community asset. After all it’s still Carlton’s home and it would be nice to make it into a facility where people could live a bit of their lives outside of footy games.
 

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Email from MLo (10/02/2019) ...




Dear Aph (real name redacted) :tonguewink:

I write to you today with the exciting news that the Liberal Nationals Government will be committing $15M to the redevelopment of Ikon Park, cementing the facility as Melbourne’s home of AFLW.

This significant investment will allow the Club the opportunity to support the increase in demand to service the Club’s combined football programs and the wider community, with opportunities available to inspire and develop the next generation of female sporting talent.

We are thrilled by the support received from the Liberal Nationals Government and we sincerely thank the Federal Treasurer Josh Frydenberg, Prime Minister Scott Morrison and the Liberal Nationals Government, for their commitment of $15M. This investment, in addition to the $20M provided by the Daniel Andrews State government, will consolidate Ikon Park as the home of women’s football and the long-term base of the Carlton Football Club.

Not only is this investment fantastic for AFLW, but also for the greater community. The investment made by both State and Federal governments will now make further pathways possible for girls and young women who want to play football at the highest level.

With the expansion of the AFLW competition and growth in female participation numbers increasing, providing elite facilities in the heart of Melbourne is essential to growing Carlton and the game of AFL.

Our new integrated facilities will provide all of our athletes across AFLW, AFL, VFLW and VFL the same professional experiences and opportunities.

As part of the Masterplan, the Club will also further develop the education facilities which currently house the Carlton College of Sport, providing a range of education experiences to female athletes, coaches and the wider community. Football administration facilities will also be expanded to allow for the continued growth of female football and the broader Carlton Football Club.

Most importantly, Ikon Park will be developed to provide upgraded match-day facilities including lights to broadcast standard, new player change-room facilities and a range of further upgrades that will greatly enhance the supporter experience, ensuring that attendance at all games continues to increase, with seating capacity at the ground to remain around 18,000 – 20,000 people.

The redevelopment process commenced with the surface upgrade completed in 2018, undertaken by the Club at a cost in excess of $2M.

We will now progress to finalise plans with construction anticipated to commence in 2020. We will continue to update you with the progress of the redevelopment in due course.

Go Blues!


Mark LoGiudice
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this got my attention. They are going to Bring lights for potiential night games.

Seating Capacity to remain around 18-20,000 people. I was hoping it would go up to 25-30,000 people to be brough back as a Possible AFL venue
 

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This is great for the footy club and the women’s game. Now all they have to do is build a facility at Princes Park that makes it a community asset. After all it’s still Carlton’s home and it would be nice to make it into a facility where people could live a bit of their lives outside of footy games.
What exactly are you suggesting they build at Princes Park Robbo ?
 

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What exactly are you suggesting they build at Princes Park Robbo ?
A Social Club facility. Not interested in poker machines, TAB etc. Somewhere to enjoy a meal and a soft drink. Instead of going to the pub to watch the footy you can head to Carlton. And when the footy’s not on then a place to hang out with Carlton supporters. Generates revenue for the club.
 

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The seating isn't deep enough in that render (if that is what it might look like) leading to a deadzone in that area of the ground, no lessons learnt from the current admin building design in regards to match day.
 

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Whilst I am glad that this going ahead and excited with what it means for our AFLW side, it is bittersweet with the iconic Pratt Stand making way for the new facilities. This is also the final nail in the coffin for anyone who thought we could still play any AFL matches here with seating capacity set to reduce due to this.

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The Pratt Stand is horrible, and to be bulldozed for the new facilities is a god send. The last time any of the facilities werr cleaned must have been well before the start of the current century.
 

drunkill

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The Pratt Stand is horrible, and to be bulldozed for the new facilities is a god send. The last time any of the facilities werr cleaned must have been well before the start of the current century.
But it has some of the best viewing of the oval at the moment, on the wing up high right next to the coaches boxes.

Yeah it is outdated and terrible, but if all we get as a replacement is a hill section (neat) and then single level seating bays without much depth to them, it will be a downgrade form a supporters point of view. All the training stuff required can sit underneath the stands or out the back of them, there doens't need to be a wall and a building behind only ~10 rows of seating.

That is poor planning for 25 years down the line. Who knows what happens with docklands, maybe we're poised to become a 40k stadium as a replacement by the time docklands is demolished, the land there is far to valuable to be a stadium, it is worth billions.

I just don't want us building and admin building 2.0, which has in the longrun, turned out to be shortsighted with the introduction of AFLW and AFL pre-season games returning to princes park.
 

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A Social Club facility. Not interested in poker machines, TAB etc. Somewhere to enjoy a meal and a soft drink. Instead of going to the pub to watch the footy you can head to Carlton. And when the footy’s not on then a place to hang out with Carlton supporters. Generates revenue for the club.

That would be excellent

Have an injuried player and past player do a talk then have the interstate games on a big screen

Set up some jumoing castles for the kids, you'd get a thousand people and generate some cash
 

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Wiki info on princes park...
22,000 capacity currently but in 1945 the vfl GF was held there with 68,000 attendees? If this is correct why can’t be remodelled to fit ~40-50,000? Then we should be able to play most of our home games there. As an example Cats ground only has a capacity of 36,000.
 

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But it has some of the best viewing of the oval at the moment, on the wing up high right next to the coaches boxes.

Yeah it is outdated and terrible, but if all we get as a replacement is a hill section (neat) and then single level seating bays without much depth to them, it will be a downgrade form a supporters point of view. All the training stuff required can sit underneath the stands or out the back of them, there doens't need to be a wall and a building behind only ~10 rows of seating.

That is poor planning for 25 years down the line. Who knows what happens with docklands, maybe we're poised to become a 40k stadium as a replacement by the time docklands is demolished, the land there is far to valuable to be a stadium, it is worth billions.

I just don't want us building and admin building 2.0, which has in the longrun, turned out to be shortsighted with the introduction of AFLW and AFL pre-season games returning to princes park.
👏
 

drunkill

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Apart from a third of the stand where you can't see the goals because the training room blocks the view.

(ignoring the other third closed off due to rotting wood)
 

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Wiki info on princes park...
22,000 capacity currently but in 1945 the vfl GF was held there with 68,000 attendees? If this is correct why can’t be remodelled to fit ~40-50,000? Then we should be able to play most of our home games there. As an example Cats ground only has a capacity of 36,000.

It would be nice to get one or two home games a year even if we only had 20000 seats.

Problem is it will only be up against low ranking interstaters
 

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