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Haha i remember ur/our excitement last year for a Blockbuster Friday night.
Up urs Gill :handpointup::handpointup:

Oh yeh...had the whole thread happening about where we were all sitting.

My only highlight was taking the claim of telling Maj to get away from the right point post and present in the goal square....or words to that effect...nekminit marks and snap goals.

And Majs running goal of course was awesome.
 
Oh yeh...had the whole thread happening about where we were all sitting.

My only highlight was taking the claim of telling Maj to get away from the right point post and present in the goal square....or words to that effect...nekminit marks and snap goals.

And Majs running goal of course was awesome.
Yep that's right and North trolling the Tigers and letting them have a win was Gold.
 
Definitely not worth a thread but it seems Vic Police are against us as well ;)

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...s/news-story/826e1c28359eca8ac1f22403b2ae9142

EXCLUSIVE: AFL clubs have been banned from firing T-shirts into the crowd at matches.

In an extraordinary move, Victoria Police has said the air gun used to send T-shirts into fans’ hands is as dangerous as a machine gun or bazooka.

Clubs were told this week gun operators required a special licence and the clubs would not be getting one.

The controversial crackdown was sparked by an officer who saw the T-shirt cannon being used at a game.

The move has been slammed by teams and fans. But police told the AFL that a T-shirt cannon was classified as a firearm, requiring a category E firearm licence.

Other weapons in that category include tear gas guns and mortars.

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The weapon in question.
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An excited little fan after catching a t-shirt at an AFL game. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Media
Police, concerned that fans catching T-shirts could be injured, also told AFL clubs they would require an additional “populous place permit” in order to carry a “loaded firearm” at stadiums.

But police said they would reject any such application by clubs.

The AFL subsequently wrote to all clubs stating they were to no longer use T-shirt guns at games, adding it was “sorry to be the bearer of bad news”.

AFL Fans’ Association president Gerry Eeman said supporters were vehemently opposed to the ban.

“We’re afraid of a T-shirt?” he said. “A cricket ball is far more dangerous than a T-shirt and at Big Bash and Twenty20 matches they’re trying to hit as many of them into the crowd as possible.

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“The overwhelming feeling is that this is complete overkill ... things don’t need to be regulated to within an inch of their life.”

But Victoria Police defended the ban.

“While cannons are used at promotional activities for entertainment purposes, cannons that use compressed air are classified as category E firearms under the Firearms Act 1996,” it said in a statement.

But an AFL club executive said the ban was “ridiculous”.

“The fun police have really come out to play this time,’’ he said. “We’re trying to enhance the game-day experience as much as possible.”

T-shirt guns and cannons are used widely at sporting events around the world.

North Melbourne this year paid about $7000 for a “12-shooter” T-shirt cannon, which was popular among fans at home games.

But police said a “genuine need” for such a licence “could not be justified”.

An AFL spokesman said: “The AFL respects the decision and will of course abide by it.”
 
Simple solution. Cut the Police budget and give them the collected t-shirt cannons from the afl clubs.

Clearly as lethal weapons they can use them during riots or to bring down armed assailants. Should work a treat o_O
 
FMD we live in a Nanny State. I sat at Madison Square Garden for game five of the 2012/13 NBA Finals and during every break a dude carrying a virtual Howitzer fired t-shirts high into the stands at a speed and number per minute far exceeding our version at Etihad. Not a peep is said in complaint in NY. What a friggin joke of a place the authorities are making it here.
 

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Definitely not worth a thread but it seems Vic Police are against us as well ;)

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...s/news-story/826e1c28359eca8ac1f22403b2ae9142

EXCLUSIVE: AFL clubs have been banned from firing T-shirts into the crowd at matches.

In an extraordinary move, Victoria Police has said the air gun used to send T-shirts into fans’ hands is as dangerous as a machine gun or bazooka.

Clubs were told this week gun operators required a special licence and the clubs would not be getting one.

The controversial crackdown was sparked by an officer who saw the T-shirt cannon being used at a game.

The move has been slammed by teams and fans. But police told the AFL that a T-shirt cannon was classified as a firearm, requiring a category E firearm licence.

Other weapons in that category include tear gas guns and mortars.

b2cc9b0944438d9188479115a6175ffa

The weapon in question.
0ed9780c1c90c8d01e7391d263e74822

An excited little fan after catching a t-shirt at an AFL game. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Media
Police, concerned that fans catching T-shirts could be injured, also told AFL clubs they would require an additional “populous place permit” in order to carry a “loaded firearm” at stadiums.

But police said they would reject any such application by clubs.

The AFL subsequently wrote to all clubs stating they were to no longer use T-shirt guns at games, adding it was “sorry to be the bearer of bad news”.

AFL Fans’ Association president Gerry Eeman said supporters were vehemently opposed to the ban.

“We’re afraid of a T-shirt?” he said. “A cricket ball is far more dangerous than a T-shirt and at Big Bash and Twenty20 matches they’re trying to hit as many of them into the crowd as possible.

Do you think police were right to crackdown on t-shirt cannons?
YesNo
Vote!View Results
“The overwhelming feeling is that this is complete overkill ... things don’t need to be regulated to within an inch of their life.”

But Victoria Police defended the ban.

“While cannons are used at promotional activities for entertainment purposes, cannons that use compressed air are classified as category E firearms under the Firearms Act 1996,” it said in a statement.

But an AFL club executive said the ban was “ridiculous”.

“The fun police have really come out to play this time,’’ he said. “We’re trying to enhance the game-day experience as much as possible.”

T-shirt guns and cannons are used widely at sporting events around the world.

North Melbourne this year paid about $7000 for a “12-shooter” T-shirt cannon, which was popular among fans at home games.

But police said a “genuine need” for such a licence “could not be justified”.

An AFL spokesman said: “The AFL respects the decision and will of course abide by it.”

Jimmy can you re post in the tshirt thread please?
 
Hardly surprised about the snipers in dallas. Not only does that city have form for random snipers shooting people ... so many black people get shot by cops or incarcerated in the US. It was only a matter of time. things have really escalated since Obama was elected.

I have friends in the US who work with Seattle council. Seattle cops are pretty bad. A guy - native american, not african american, and homeless, was murdered by a police officer there back in 2010 and I kind of followed what they were doing about it - a bit. Read some leaked police newsletters - supposedly for police eyes only not public consumption, and it was disgusting. There was a significant element that wanted to take the election of Obama out on the local black population.

Its really more of a surprise this sort of thing hasn't happened before.

Black friends with kids in the US tell me they sit their boys down before they hit puberty and warn them that they are going to be targets for police when in public and possibly will be shot for no reason if they are unlucky or stand up for themselves and assert their constitutional rights. They have strategies for encountering the police that minimise the excuses cops can have to pull guns and shoot people. Educated middle class families btw.

One of the first mainstream gun control movements came about when the Black Panthers decided to conduct armed patrols of black neighbourhoods to monitor police behaviour in the 60s. It was called the Mulford act and was passed by Reagan in California when he was governor.

Wouldn't be surprised if the shooters were members of the "Huey P Newton Gun Club." Pretty sure it operates in Dallas.
 

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Hardly surprised about the snipers in dallas. Not only does that city have form for random snipers shooting people ... so many black people get shot by cops or incarcerated in the US. It was only a matter of time. things have really escalated since Obama was elected.

I have friends in the US who work with Seattle council. Seattle cops are pretty bad. A guy - native american, not african american, and homeless, was murdered by a police officer there back in 2010 and I kind of followed what they were doing about it - a bit. Read some leaked police newsletters - supposedly for police eyes only not public consumption, and it was disgusting. There was a significant element that wanted to take the election of Obama out on the local black population.

Its really more of a surprise this sort of thing hasn't happened before.

Black friends with kids in the US tell me they sit their boys down before they hit puberty and warn them that they are going to be targets for police when in public and possibly will be shot for no reason if they are unlucky or stand up for themselves and assert their constitutional rights. They have strategies for encountering the police that minimise the excuses cops can have to pull guns and shoot people. Educated middle class families btw.

One of the first mainstream gun control movements came about when the Black Panthers decided to conduct armed patrols of black neighbourhoods to monitor police behaviour in the 60s. It was called the Mulford act and was passed by Reagan in California when he was governor.

Wouldn't be surprised if the shooters were members of the "Huey P Newton Gun Club." Pretty sure it operates in Dallas.
Interesting, but not surprising I guess. It makes Pauline Hanson's election look like a sane choice for racist expression, doesn't it?! (If that's a thing.)

The tendency for police aggression shows through in some of those US reality shows which I've had the misfortune to stumble across from time to time. Someone who poses no physical threat is thrown to the ground, roughly, two big burly cops jump on their back, cuffed and the general attitude is "guilty (arseh*le) till proven innocent". There is a sense that cops see themselves as the law, rather than upholders of the law. Add to that a potent mix of racism and ghetto-ism stemming from aforementioned poverty gap and it's a recipe for disaster.

The Kardashians are more to blame than Obama (not that you were suggesting this.)
 
Interesting, but not surprising I guess. It makes Pauline Hanson's election look like a sane choice for racist expression, doesn't it?! (If that's a thing.)

The tendency for police aggression shows through in some of those US reality shows which I've had the misfortune to stumble across from time to time. Someone who poses no physical threat is thrown to the ground, roughly, two big burly cops jump on their back, cuffed and the general attitude is "guilty (arseh*le) till proven innocent". There is a sense that cops see themselves as the law, rather than upholders of the law. Add to that a potent mix of racism and ghetto-ism stemming from aforementioned poverty gap and it's a recipe for disaster.

The Kardashians are more to blame than Obama (not that you were suggesting this.)

Yeah I think they are. Tho i don't have much time for Obama. Some of those newsletters are/were archived at "The Seattle Slog". I think thats its name anyway. Its a newspaper or online news service from Seattle. It certainly wasn't just Obama that drove the cops attitude. His presidency and lefties in general was/were just another ingredient in the primal soup of resentment they swam in.

Police and racist violence is nothing new tho.

I look like a blackfella, but I'm not aboriginal. Lots of people assume I am. I used to travel round fruit picking in my late teens and early 20s. Late 80s and early 90s. I'd often get on well with local indigenous people and there were always older women who would take an interest in me. They'd ask my where my mob was from and i'd tell them i wasn't aboriginal and was from tassie. They'd always go "Suuuure ... " and look after me and make sure I wasn't hassled by local people. They'd often ask if I knew or was looking for someone. I never was so they'd drop it very quickly.

It was years later that Archie Roach put that song out and I started to click that there might have been more to it. That maybe those women had lost family or even kids and assumed I was a member of the stolen generation - perhaps I didn't know it, perhaps I was looking for my family. Maybe not, but I just get that feeling looking back on it.

One thing i remember from those days was being warned not to go looking for work in some places. This was when aboriginal deaths in custody were unquestioned and many were unreported. I'd be told don't go to those towns cos the cops there were murderers. Coppi9ng a hiding from the cops wasn't a race thing when I was young in melbourne either. It was a class thing maybe, or just young men and kids, teenagers, who thought they could challenge those young men's authority.

You can see that police attitude in the murder (I'm calling it that anyway) of John T Williams by P.O. Ian Birk of the Seattle PD back in 2010. There is or was dashcam footage online, probably on youtube. Its pretty full on but doesn't show the actual shooting. The cop steps one step out of camera frame before unloading on the other guy. Williams wasn't African American but was a homeless redfella with probably mental health issues. So marginalised. But an acceptable target anyway.

Police in Australia used to be very bad in that way. They are better now. Tho kids in Bankstown might think differently.
 
I'd like to add that cops in America face a violent armed population with a mythology of gun use. I'd guess most of them know other cops who have been killed so... its not as simple as saying "all cops are bad" even tho there might be systemic issues in many Police depts.
 
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