Autopsy Round 2 vs Bravedogs. Things learnt

[Kapanis]

Sometimes shits me the swans site, maybe i am being silly

But we lost, yet we seem to be posting heaps of highlights from this game, like here swans fans you didnt win, but watch buddy magic

It's just pr and marketing hype. In general they do a pretty decent job.

 

[The King!]

Just imagine if we had a midfield that could kick....

Trying, but just cant see it

 

[Kapanis]

Just imagine if we had a midfield that could kick....

And Parkers tackle led to the midfield turnover. The guys are trying and working they're guts out, some are not fully fit who are playing and we have injuries galore to our best 22, younguns are being blooded earlier than anticipated, so settle down people, it's only round 2 and there's plenty of upside to the last couple of games. The talk of Jack being past it is laughable.

 

[MickyG]

I am not suggesting they send an email. That's not how corporations exercising monopoly power exert market pressure. Well smart ones don't anyway. Occams razor would favour the corporate pressure theory because among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. Your explanation relies on an assumption of honest mistake or stupidity every time the decision is made. That would reasonably hold for the first one or two mistakes. But for the string of repeated errors which favour time and again one team? So many assumptions. Also if this is honest mistakes the mistakes should statistically even out over a period of time. They haven't, The hypothesis that AFL pressure produces the bias relies on one assumption - big corporations in positions of monopoly exert influence to favour market outcomes.

I read an interesting post last year talking about a referee in US basketball. He thought he was doing a good job but not getting the big games. He found the referees that favoured the big teams that have the biggest sponsorships got the big games. Refereeing fairly was a bad career move. If you were umpiring last year would it not be a good career move to be fair hence the bias toward Bulldogs and Hawks (?Eagles).

 

[scaryness]

Should have been a free kick!

Call it even for the one that Aliir got penalised for when he barely touched him.

 

[brad cooper]

Call it even for the one that Aliir got penalised for when he barely touched him.

Even?????????

 

[momentbymoment]

Call it even for the one that Aliir got penalised for when he barely touched him.

This is called false equivalency.

 

[The Gong]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...fast-lane-on-the-freeway-20170403-gvcnt8.html

Interesting stir of the pot from Baum

 

[The King!]

Geez we went into a flap in the last once we got the lead

Played with flair then just cramped up

 

[Syd]

And Parkers tackle led to the midfield turnover. The guys are trying and working they're guts out, some are not fully fit who are playing and we have injuries galore to our best 22, younguns are being blooded earlier than anticipated, so settle down people, it's only round 2 and there's plenty of upside to the last couple of games. The talk of Jack being past it is laughable.

I just
Don't
Even
...

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Sometimes shits me the swans site, maybe i am being silly

But we lost, yet we seem to be posting heaps of highlights from this game, like here swans fans you didnt win, but watch buddy magic

I think that's the point. Should they post slow-motion video of our players walking off the ground looking dejected? I watched the Buddy goals about 10 times, it was the highlight of the match for me and I am sure many other Sydney supporters.

 

[boydee]

Yeah you're right, only followed them since I was 9 years old in 1977 when Kelvin Templeton, Jeff Jennings and Bruce Reid at the Western Oval, Geelong Rd End, Footscray gave us a skills session. Look them up, especially that Templeton bloke. Could play a bit, you'll find.

Apparantly Reid's son plays for your team. There you go.

Jeff Jennings was my PE teacher in High School.

 

[The King!]

I think that's the point. Should they post slow-motion video of our players walking off the ground looking dejected? I watched the Buddy goals about 10 times, it was the highlight of the match for me and I am sure many other Sydney supporters.

I just like whinging

I dunno show nothing

 

[MC Bad Genius]

Can I say for one that I think this is a nonsense. Making players run the ball out from their goal posts is great in the same way that ghouls marvel at the Indy 500 when the car stacks. The nature of AFL, unlike other sports, is that if you rush a behind the other side gets a point from it. They actually get a point. In many games sufficient of these things and you lose.

I reckon its great when teams have the wherewithal to run the ball out but if a guy is under pressure and he has limited options I simply regard the giving of a free kick - in circumstances where the attacking team has already gained a point - as a bridge too far.

I thought at the game that the Mills one was lineball - he just punched it through with only a little pressure around him - but when you are running back to your goal with the scores as close as what they were, I just think the rule stinks. Not the interpretation of it but the rule itself

I'm the exact opposite in that I think the rule is good, but the interpretation not so much. Like all tinkering though, there are unexpected consequences. For instance, the whole idea of the rule changes is to make players attack the ball, yet we saw the opposite with Picken choosing to hold back and appeal for the free.

 

[Tuco]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...fast-lane-on-the-freeway-20170403-gvcnt8.html

Interesting stir of the pot from Baum

It's an open secret these days. When Baum is writing this dort of article we've crossed the rubicon. We are in legitimate concern from unbiased observer territory now.

Time for some quiet backroom discussions to stop this required. I'm sick of thinking about it. Just stop it, AFL!

 

[Kapanis]

I'm the exact opposite in that I think the rule is good, but the interpretation not so much. Like all tinkering though, there are unexpected consequences. For instance, the whole idea of the rule changes is to make players attack the ball, yet we saw the opposite with Picken choosing to hold back and appeal for the free.

Or attack the ball and get called for holding

 

[caesar88]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-front-of-goal-was-wrong-20170404-gvdmpb.html

 

[Tuco]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-front-of-goal-was-wrong-20170404-gvdmpb.html

So it begins...

 

[SilentHunter_]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-front-of-goal-was-wrong-20170404-gvdmpb.html

Forgetting the hysteria I am hoping something meaningful actually comes from this! Hopefully we coach to get the FK going for us as an advantage.

 

[The King!]

Someone start a main board thread.

 

[caesar88]

Main board? Never heard of such a thing

 

[Vin Rogue]

Its Plugger Lockett not Mandrake the Magician

But some might argue that what has happened to Reid makes Plugger a Magician. If he can do the same with Sinclair, reckon Plugger might go beyond the status of a Magi and approach divinity.

 

[RW]

I think that's the point. Should they post slow-motion video of our players walking off the ground looking dejected? I watched the Buddy goals about 10 times, it was the highlight of the match for me and I am sure many other Sydney supporters.

Agree, we did almost win with a young side playing, but didn't have a lot of luck on the night, so can understand the positive spin.

 

[Syd]

But some might argue that what has happened to Reid makes Plugger a Magician. If he can do the same with Sinclair, reckon Plugger might go beyond the status of a Magi and approach divinity.

Plugger attained Divine Status many, many years ago.

 

[bungee]

Well said. If you want to bag the quality of umpiring then I have no problem with that, they make lots of mistakes every week for all clubs.

But to claim that some part-time umpires are getting bribed or otherwise directed by the AFL to favour certain teams is just bitter bullshit of the highest order. Does anyone genuinely believe that is actually happening, or is just a nice whine? No umpire or official has EVER come out and said something to the press about how they were told to give the Bulldogs or Hawks some free kicks? They are hardly being paid millions of dollars or threatened by the mafia to keep quiet, so why has nobody ever revealed this great conspiracy? Tin foil hat stuff.

The far more likely scenario is that they make mistakes, they can get influenced by home crowds, and when your team loses they are a handy scapegoat. Far easier than actually having to consider that your team might have some faults.

Let's agree they make mistakes and it's pure coincidence that they consistently make them in favour of the Dogs.