Game Day Round 8, 2023 v Geelong at Kardinia Park. Crows by a cat's whisker?

[Southerntakeover]

Let’s say Keays didn’t fumble, he got a handball away and was held on to, what happens? Free or no free?

If he doesn't fumble he kicks the goal.

 

[Mattrox]

Let’s say Keays didn’t fumble, he got a handball away and was held on to, what happens? Free or no free?

No free.... No frees in front of goal at the cattery against the Cats.... Must be in the fine print.

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[Mattrox]

I don't 'hate' him- but he constantly *s up at important times by failing to do the basic and trying to do things reserved for the elite.

He had the ball, he fumbled, he failed to execute, we didn't score, we lost.

The idea that we should focus on the umpires rather than ever being accountable for our own * ups is the precise wrong approach.

Yes he does * up.

But that was still holding.

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[Crow till I die]

matt crouch had the most matt crouch statline i've ever seen.

12 touches, 2 kicks, 10 handballs, 2 tackles -16 meters gained. never the sort of player who should be a sub.

And 2 of those handballs missed their target by metres that killed a momentum chain each time as he was breaking clear of congestion..

 

[Milo Cyrus]

Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

47

Ht

182cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

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D

13.2

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

, the lad can coach.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Yes he does * up.

But that was still holding.

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If he hadn't fumbled, we're a goal down with four minutes left.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

A rule is a rule though. You’re just not allowed to hold a player let alone for so long, doesn’t matter what happened earlier.

Agree , I hate players dropping the ball to play for the free but that’s not what happened

 

[George Kramer]

If he doesn't fumble he kicks the goal.

He should have but that’s not the question. You are not allowed to keep holding on to a player if they pick it up, dispose of it or if they fumble it. The rule doesn’t differentiate.

 

[Southerntakeover]

He should have but that’s not the question. You are not allowed to keep holding on to a player if they pick it up, dispose of it or if they fumble it. The rule doesn’t differentiate.

What does the rule say?

 

[cmndstab]

That result is pretty reflective of where we're at, I reckon. We're a decent side, plucky, up-and-coming, but still a level off the top sides.

When key moments came up, Geelong made them count. We didn't. That's the difference.

 

[Southerntakeover]

That result is pretty reflective of where we're at, I reckon. We're a decent side, plucky, up-and-coming, but still a level off the top sides.

When key moments came up, Geelong made them count. We didn't. That's the difference.

That was about 2/3rds of Geelong's team, without Dangerfield for a half.

 

[jackster83]

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[jenny61_99]

It's frustrating having Rankine, Rachele, Pedlar and Murphy up forward but we can never get a crumb from a contest in our forward line.

Surely that would require our talls to make a contest?

 

[George Kramer]

What does the rule say?

You can’t hold on to a player without the ball

 

[Owen_AFC97]

Yep, Ben's really the victim here.

We should buy him a present.

Yep, Ben's really the victim here.

We should buy him a present.

You and I do that every season with our membership money. Maybe if they read your advice about handing back our license then we wouldn’t have to buy him a present every season.

 

[Milo Cyrus]

You can’t hold on to a player without the ball

Why bother with umpiring decisions? no-one knows what the rules are anymore.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

So bleating about a free kick that is never, ever paid

It’s paid a lot actually

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Watch. It. Again.

I've watched it again

It's not a free kick in a million years. No one would ever get a free kick for that. You blokes are absolutely kidding yourselves

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

It’s paid a lot actually

If a player kicks or handballs and then gets held, then yes

If a player never has the ball and gets held, then yes

If the player has the ball and gets tackled legally it isn't

 

[WetCrow1991]

Keays was never getting a free in front of goal, simply was never in the realm of possibility. Keays could try to not fumble and * up though.

 

[Southerntakeover]

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My eyes aren't much chop tonight Where's the bit about rewarding guys who drop it?

 

[Owen_AFC97]

To be fair to the Keays bashers I personally wouldn’t have been too confident he would’ve even converted from that position in the event he won the what should have been paid free kick.

 

[George Kramer]

My eyes aren't much chop tonight Where's the bit about rewarding guys who drop it?

That’s irrelevant

 

[George Kramer]

If a player kicks or handballs and then gets held, then yes

If a player never has the ball and gets held, then yes

If the player has the ball and gets tackled legally it isn't

How long can the player hold for?

 

[Samcro24]

I've watched it again

It's not a free kick in a million years. No one would ever get a free kick for that. You blokes are absolutely kidding yourselves

He doesn’t drop the ball.
He doesn’t fumble the ball.
He doesn’t have prior, so it’s not like he took too long and got caught removing any benefit of the doubt.

The ball is clearly dislodged in the tackle.
The tacklers arm literally punches it out of his hands as he lays the tackle.

That’s play on, as it was called.

The tackler then proceeds to wrap his arm around his waist and leave it there, in what is a clear holding the man free kick.

Which part of that do you dispute?