Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

[Kurve]

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The Murder of Rebecca Young - Ballarat

The Murder of Hannah McGuire - Ballarat * Lachie Young

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Lachie Young

Age

25

Ht

189cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

220.3

3star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.5

2star

HB

3.5

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

3star

MG

210.0

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

219.6

4star

charged



Allegedly

 

[Kurve]

I read somewhere it was a quad bike.

Why are quad bikes not road legal?
Road legal vehicles require high/low beam headlights, horn, turn and brake signals, mirrors, license plates etc., and not all quad bikes have these features.

There doesn't appear to be any mention of an infringement over the special work vehicles registration, so he was probably off-road when it happened.

 

[MrsBlueSky]

I think the police officer who tested PS after the motorbike accident last October showed PS leniency because he could have cancelled his MDL instead of having the matter listed for August the following year.
PS has been charged with drink driving, drug driving and careless driving.
Police in Victoria have a discretion to issue a traffic infringement notice and cancel your licence for a period of three months.

 

[31550]

There doesn't appear to be any mention of an infringement over the special work vehicles registration, so he was probably off-road when it happened.

Then what is the actual offence / charges relating to this incident? And why were none laid at the time?

 

[Sqotty from office works]

They can be dangerous, as they tip over, they have caused a lot of fatal accidents

That's why they are called quads.

Laws says they have to be fitted with roll bar similar to tractors

 

[Kurve]

Then what is the actual offence / charges relating to this incident? And why were none laid at the time?

He's been charged with drink and drug driving. Sometimes all they get told at the time is to wait for the summons which can take up to 12 months.

 

[Kurve]

There doesn't appear to be any mention of an infringement over the special work vehicles registration, so he was probably off-road when it happened.

That could be wrong, we might not know if there was an infringement as a lesser matter.

 

[faible]

Picked the eyes out of that little lot owen87

Weird to name me in your little rant

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

How do you know it’s a fact?

What else could have happened? I find it ridiculous people coming up with outlandish theories to protect obvious killers. It's a 99% chance if thst makes you feel better.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Where is the reference to say he was drugged up from a Saturday night session ? As the footage being shown of his snorting drugs happened in January

He was at the pub and drunk at the very least. The cops have their man, that's blatenly obvious.

 

[Kurve]

He was at the pub and drunk at the very least. The cops have their man, that's blatenly obvious.

We thought Rajwinder Singh probably had to be totally guilty for killing Toyah Cordingley after he fled to India and had to be extradited back here to face trial for murder.

The twists in that case we're now finding out, might make a conviction seem a little less certain.

 

[31550]

He was at the pub and drunk at the very least. The cops have their man, that's blatenly obvious.

I thought he was at a party?

In any case, hundreds of other Ballaratians were drunk the night before and didn't kill anybody.

 

[Royces Hart]

What else could have happened? I find it ridiculous people coming up with outlandish theories to protect obvious killers. It's a 99% chance if thst makes you feel better.

Ok, so you don’t know it as fact, thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Lady O]

What else could have happened? I find it ridiculous people coming up with outlandish theories to protect obvious killers. It's a 99% chance if thst makes you feel better.

Perhaps when you say "fact" you could also add "in my opinion". Otherwise it appears you have some actual evidence that it is a "fact".

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Ok, so you don’t know it as fact, thanks for clearing that up.

What's your whacky theory Royce?

 

[thumbs_up]

What else could have happened? I find it ridiculous people coming up with outlandish theories to protect obvious killers. It's a 99% chance if thst makes you feel better.

Might wanna look up the definition of the word "fact" Aristotle

 

[Royces Hart]

What's your whacky theory Royce?

I don’t have a theory. I think it’s likely that he did it, however I don’t know it as a “fact” that he did, nor that he was off his face if/when he did.

We know nothing about the circumstances or what evidence the police have yet, so throwing around what you know as a fact, is bullshit quite frankly.

And I’m not protecting him or trying to make myself feel better. If he is found guilty in a court of law, to hell with him. That’s when the “facts” will come out.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Might wanna look up the definition of the word "fact" Aristotle

Might want to look up extremely highly likely . No one would get convicted on your reqirements.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

I don’t have a theory. I think it’s likely that he did it, however I don’t know it as a “fact” that he did, nor that he was off his face if/when he did.

We know nothing about the circumstances or what evidence the police have yet, so throwing around what you know as a fact, is bullshit quite frankly.

And I’m not protecting him or trying to make myself feel better. If he is found guilty in a court of law, to hell with him. That’s when the “facts” will come out.

The cops have evidence we don't know about so it's pointless putting up a defence without the facts the police have. That's the danger of uniformed internet sleuths.

 

[Royces Hart]

The cops have evidence we don't know about so it's pointless putting up a defence without the facts the police have. That's the danger of uniformed internet sleuths.

It’s pointless to put up a defense because we don’t know what evidence the police have but you are willing to convict him without knowing what evidence they have.

Just own that you shouldn’t have said you know what happened as a fact.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Could POS been hooning and Samantha Murphy witnessed or came across evidence of this (ie damaged car & POS). Then POS panics knowing he is up the creek with no paddle, panics and kills Samantha?

How could they charge him with murder then though? No body so no evidence on how she was supposedly 'killed', opportunistic killing. Perhaps they don't have evidence for murder and he instead will be convicted of manslaughter when it goes to trial

 

[Lady O]

How could they charge him with murder then though? No body so no evidence on how she was supposedly 'killed', opportunistic killing. Perhaps they don't have evidence for murder and he instead will be convicted of manslaughter when it goes to trial

Did I dream this or did one of the top Cops say it was a few frames of a video/cctv that led them to POS. He gave the impression that it was a slam dunk.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

It’s pointless to put up a defense because we don’t know what evidence the police have but you are willing to convict him without knowing what evidence they have.

Just own that you shouldn’t have said you know what happened as a fact.

The cops have facts so I trust them.

 

[thumbs_up]

Might want to look up extremely highly likely . No one would get convicted on your reqirements.

Then use that term rather than "fact"

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Then use that term rather than "fact"

Mute point really, like I said the cops have facts or they wouldn't have charged him and detained him. They had 27 detectives on the case as well.
I can't see any room for him being innocent whatsover.

 

[thumbs_up]

This thread is descending into madness