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21.
95% of 18yo's simply are not mature enough to handle otherwise.
95% of 18yo's simply are not mature enough to handle otherwise.
The Law Should the legal drinking age be raised?
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I've got some bad news for you, bro. A great number of kids are drinking alcohol by 15/16, no matter what 'age limit' you try to enforce.
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I've got some bad news for you, bro. A great number of kids are drinking alcohol by 15/16, no matter what 'age limit' you try to enforce.
All the more reason to force them to wait untill 21. Maybe even older for good measure, as the brain grows untill about 25.
You seem to be missing the point, brah.
They are going to drink. You cannot 'force' them not to.
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Well let's just let boys be boys then hey?
That's the attitude that causes trouble to start.
Don't be an idiot-enabler.
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Tone down the hysteria.
Raising the drinking age will not have a positive effect.
Raising the drinking age will not have a positive effect.
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Actually by engaging him I am being an idiot enabler, by giving him something to reply to.
Also funny how removing "- " can change the meaning of a sentence.
Also funny how removing "- " can change the meaning of a sentence.
Its not like raising the drinking age will change the fact that 14-15 year olds are out getting drunk every weekend.
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Most 18/19 yo's really can't handle their alcohol and as a result the guys especially often fall into one of three categories.
1. Skirt chasers
2. Brawlers
3. Pass out
Or somtimes all three.
So by that arguement waiting a few years untill they mature socially and physically may be a good idea.
However, much of my "discovered maturity" when it comes to alcohol is as a result of mistakes in the past. So does pushing it back three years really somehow skip the whole immature phase (Which most people go through initially).
I do think though that pushing back the drinking age forces 18-21 to drink in "safer" environments like house parties, so perhaps the learning curve won't be potentially so dangerous.
So at the moment I sit on the fence
As a 26 yo, I think I lean towards pushing it back to 21
As a 18 yo..I would have been dead against it.
1. Skirt chasers
2. Brawlers
3. Pass out
Or somtimes all three.
So by that arguement waiting a few years untill they mature socially and physically may be a good idea.
However, much of my "discovered maturity" when it comes to alcohol is as a result of mistakes in the past. So does pushing it back three years really somehow skip the whole immature phase (Which most people go through initially).
I do think though that pushing back the drinking age forces 18-21 to drink in "safer" environments like house parties, so perhaps the learning curve won't be potentially so dangerous.
So at the moment I sit on the fence
As a 26 yo, I think I lean towards pushing it back to 21
As a 18 yo..I would have been dead against it.
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The European model just leads to rampant alcoholism and related disease. It's not some beacon of cultural enlightenment.
Just make it a crime to supply alcohol to anyone under the age of 18 - whether they are your own child or otherwise - and also a crime to consume alcohol under the age of 18.
And then actually enforce the law.
Underage drinking will all but vanish if people know the cops can drag you off to the watch-house on the back of a sip of beer.
But of course, there are fairer ways but they just don't work as effectively.
Just make it a crime to supply alcohol to anyone under the age of 18 - whether they are your own child or otherwise - and also a crime to consume alcohol under the age of 18.
And then actually enforce the law.
Underage drinking will all but vanish if people know the cops can drag you off to the watch-house on the back of a sip of beer.
But of course, there are fairer ways but they just don't work as effectively.
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so so true.
parents should be charged for supplyng alcohol to their young children as happens now. The damage they are oding to their childrens developing bodies is ver very real.
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But then the human brain is not fully developed until around 25 years of age, why cut alcohol out until 18, when it will still do the same damage up until the brain has fully developed.
If you are going to bring the 'harm to a developing mind' arguement up, then you should make alcohol illegal to under 25.
Why? How are those two things linked?
Really? Are alcohol problems worse in Europe? They don't seem to have the same level of youth drinking and violence problems. The UK has a far higher incidence of alcohol abuse amongst youth.
The fact is it just wont work
in fact make it worse, people will in fact drink more in unsupervised environments and drink what they can get there hands on which may in fact become more dangerous cocktails of home brew spirit.
What you have than is a worse drunk and possible fatalities from drinkning bad stuff.
18 has worked until now, getting drunk through the years 18-21 has always been some right of passage and yes there have been some issues but whats changed now for violence on our streets.
Me thinks for the culture problem we should be looking elsewhere.
in fact make it worse, people will in fact drink more in unsupervised environments and drink what they can get there hands on which may in fact become more dangerous cocktails of home brew spirit.
What you have than is a worse drunk and possible fatalities from drinkning bad stuff.
18 has worked until now, getting drunk through the years 18-21 has always been some right of passage and yes there have been some issues but whats changed now for violence on our streets.
Me thinks for the culture problem we should be looking elsewhere.
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So the 4 above posters who are opposed to the raising of age solution yet offer none themselves is:
Do nothing. Just wait and see what happens and ride it out. Maybe the problem will just go away on it's own.
Nice going.
Do nothing. Just wait and see what happens and ride it out. Maybe the problem will just go away on it's own.
Nice going.
So the 4 above posters who are opposed to the raising of age solution yet offer none themselves is:
Do nothing. Just wait and see what happens and ride it out. Maybe the problem will just go away on it's own.
Nice going.
For as long as alcohol has existed, there have been problems. There will continue to be problems in future.
Changing the legal age for drinking will not fix the problem one bit.
How did you get that from my posts?So the 4 above posters who are opposed to the raising of age solution yet offer none themselves is:
Do nothing. Just wait and see what happens and ride it out. Maybe the problem will just go away on it's own.
Nice going.
So the 4 above posters who are opposed to the raising of age solution yet offer none themselves is:
Do nothing. Just wait and see what happens and ride it out. Maybe the problem will just go away on it's own.
Nice going.
Perhaps if your going to criticise you can explain how you really expect by raising it is going to help rather than making the problem go under ground.
Maybe the courts could actually give out some sort of decent punishment to the nutters who go out looking for a fight and find one, instead of thinking of ways to punish the vast majority who are just out for a good time with their mates.
If there is no deterrent for having a massive punch on with random people for no reason, what's stopping people from getting a little angry while they're out? They'll just cop a slap on the wrist anyway.
Stronger sentencing for drunken thugs who cause injury while on the piss seems to be a more sensible way to stop the damage before it occurs, rather than going for yet another ban or regulation that won't work.
If there is no deterrent for having a massive punch on with random people for no reason, what's stopping people from getting a little angry while they're out? They'll just cop a slap on the wrist anyway.
Stronger sentencing for drunken thugs who cause injury while on the piss seems to be a more sensible way to stop the damage before it occurs, rather than going for yet another ban or regulation that won't work.
