The 2013 Draft - Post Mortem

[Hayes4PM]

Joke right?


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Considering they were pick 24 and 38 they COULD end up being real winners. Both have a lot of potential, especially Garlett.

 

[RobV]

Saints and Brisbane at this stage IMO, Saints nailed all 3 picks under 20. Hawks did well with their later picks and Geelong's picks even though not rated now will likely be stars as Wells would have to rate in the top 2 recruiters.

I think Collingwood did as expected with 2 top 10 picks. I literally fist pumped when Scharenbergs name was called, and was hoping to get Salem but since he was taken was more than happy with Freeman. We were only going to use a couple picks but apparently Hine couldn't resist when Langdon and Marsh were still available so I trust his judgement as he hasn't let us down before.

We also continue our obsession with South Aussies.

In saying all that though no one including myself will know for a couple years. According to bigfooty and the media we were the big losers in 2005 when we grabbed Thomas and Pendlebury..A couple years later we were deemed to have smashed that draft.

I think Melbourne and Collingwood are going to regret not taking Sheed. Salem may turn out ok but Sheed looks to be a boss. Freeman seems Lonieesque to me.

Collingwood were never going to take Sheed, we have a great relationship with West Coast and were never going to sabotage that. We have done a number of trades with them recently and would like to keep the friendship going.

 

[38Rockliff38]

Now that I think about it... If Ryan Lester didn't miss from 10 meters out with 5 seconds to go to win the game against Geelong in rd23, we wouldn't of had pick 7 in this draft! If that kick went through, we would of leap frogged 2 or 3 teams and ended up with pick 10 or so. Thank you very much Ryan Lester, you are responsible for the recruiting of a future club champion, James Aish. If your kick went through, we would of ended up with a dud like Freeman.

 

[1990crow]

We will take Dangerfield for him

Aish will stay for a little while, if he did come home it would be more like 7-8 years.

 

[38Rockliff38]

Aish will stay for a little while, if he did come home it would be more like 7-8 years.

Yeah I know, wasn't being serious

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Now that I think about it... If Ryan Lester didn't miss from 10 meters out with 5 seconds to go to win the game against Geelong in rd23, we wouldn't of had pick 7 in this draft! If that kick went through, we would of leap frogged 2 or 3 teams and ended up with pick 10 or so. Thank you very much Ryan Lester, you are responsible for the recruiting of a future club champion, James Aish. If your kick went through, we would of ended up with a dud like Freeman.

Tanked, try and stop us

 

[LuKe2428]

Nekminit....... Aish leaves like half your talent did this year

 

[Ulahoopski]

How can anyone judge whether a team has 'won' or 'lost' a draft at this point in time is beyond me.

Everyone on here is an expert - didn't you know?

 

[bombermick]

Dons were reportedly keen on Lang. Going by Wells record, he will be a gun. Dogs took a big gamble, but they are sort of risks you need to take to win a flag, just as Hawthorn and Collingwood have shown.

 

[HayesTheChamp]

Grunt as in workrate. Aish doesn't cover the miles of Gaff, Kelly and Whitfield.

Guess you western australian's have a different use for the word grunt haha. But fair enough, I thought you were referring to strength and vicious attack on the ball.

 

[Kramer]

Now that I think about it... If Ryan Lester didn't miss from 10 meters out with 5 seconds to go to win the game against Geelong in rd23, we wouldn't of had pick 7 in this draft! If that kick went through, we would of leap frogged 2 or 3 teams and ended up with pick 10 or so. Thank you very much Ryan Lester, you are responsible for the recruiting of a future club champion, James Aish. If your kick went through, we would of ended up with a dud like Freeman.

nope, you would have leap frogged adelaide and north which wouldn't have made any difference to you getting Aish.

 

[tigs2010]

It would be embarrassing for the AFL if a club pulled a complete shock and drafted someone who wasn't even there.

I'd say 15-20 would be close to the mark.

Nah a club would then say we're gunna take this guy if there. Like Richmond did with Conca.

 

[tigs2010]

Am I the only one that thinks Freeman has more chance of being a bust than a star?

Yes, then he landed at Collingwood and I changed my mind.

 

[rgauci]

Bad thing about rating the draft is that straight away every team thinks they have walked away a winner - you won't find too many disgruntled threads made the next day. However obviously that's not the case. In reality I believe apart from the top 9(ish)picks there's a lot of smoke around most of the players being hit or miss. Look at previous drafts (pre 2005) and you'll be saying to yourself "who" a fair few times after pick 15ish.

To completely disregard my first paragraph I'd say collingwood and gws are the clear winners. Collingwood with berg/freeman is such a good drafting period for a team that finished 6th(?) - I also rate Marsh quite well as well. Gws is obvious - don't quite understand the McCarthy pick but I'm sure there's a plan. I'd say saints as well but I'm too biased. Hawthorn could also be an extremely big winner for premiers as well.


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If you read the 2008 post draft thread for Freo, the drafting team was widely criticised by the supporters. Hill was a reach, Ballantyne won't make the grade, Suban too small, Clarke to thin, Walters to unfit...ultimately that draft made nearly a 1/3 of our best 22.

I'd say the GWS plan is to make him a 'big' midfielder. KPP will all be 195cm+ in 5-8 years time. Midfielders 190ish.

 

[Hollow Knight]

nope, you would have leap frogged adelaide and north which wouldn't have made any difference to you getting Aish.

Nah we would have won a couple of finals and ended up with a pick in the mid teens.

 

[slashin_velvet]

Its too early to call, but I actually rate the Dogs and North as having a really good draft.

If you put aside number of picks, and their position in the draft (in which case Brisbane (4 in top 30) GWS (4 in top 30 including 1 & 2) and Saints (3 in top 20) clearly win), and put aside recruiting history (where you can argue that Geelong and Sydney win regardless of selections), then I see the Dogs and North as taking a couple good balanced risks that could really pay off - and this is what "winning" a draft is all about.

Any team could "win" the draft if they traded out all their best players for picks 1-10.

 

[raffrox]

If you read the 2008 post draft thread for Freo, the drafting team was widely criticised by the supporters. Hill was a reach, Ballantyne won't make the grade, Suban too small, Clarke to thin, Walters to unfit...ultimately that draft made nearly a 1/3 of our best 22.

I'd say the GWS plan is to make him a 'big' midfielder. KPP will all be 195cm+ in 5-8 years time. Midfielders 190ish.

I still remember people in the draft thread that year saying, "please make Freo stop!!" because some thought we were doing so bad.

After an initial reaction and vent really we've got no idea how this thing will turn out.

 

[Richo83]

It's not obvious. Would be stunned if we took someone like Thorp. Doesn't fit the types we recruit in regards to attitude. No thanks.

Mitch Thorp's attitude is currently not much worse than Chris Yarran's IMO.

 

[BM123]

Not really. Yarran was great for the vast majority of the year. Played a important role in getting us to finals despite playing with a injured hand against Port.

 

[Hawkinspired]

So aside from future prospects, what teams can actually improve their list in 2014 with draftees? Obviously Boyd comes to mind with GWS, could come straight in and help them win a few more games. As for Hawthorn, assuming a healthy list I can't see anyone breaking into the best 25 next year. You could make a case for Garlett, but there are a fair few others with long VFL apprenticeships that would be hard to leapfrog.

 

[SizeMatters]

Saints, GC with KK, Lions with Aish and Taylor... maybe Collingwood who will struggle for a few years imo.

 

[bombermick]

So aside from future prospects, what teams can actually improve their list in 2014 with draftees? Obviously Boyd comes to mind with GWS, could come straight in and help them win a few more games. As for Hawthorn, assuming a healthy list I can't see anyone breaking into the best 25 next year. You could make a case for Garlett, but there are a fair few others with long VFL apprenticeships that would be hard to leapfrog.

I think Sheed will play the majority of games next year, while McDonald will play 22 games for North if he's fit. Melbourne have Hogan. As for Essendon, Zak Merrett could play 10 or so games, although there's lots of competition for small forward spots.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Scharenberg they don't particularly need - WC have a dearth of flankers (Hurn, Butler, Smith, Brennan) to set them from half back. Aish I can agree with, but I don't see a problem with WC taking the best available west australian mid.

Dearth doesn't mean what you think it does. Quite the opposite.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Surprised that Hartung slide to Pick 24 since there are plenty of examples of players who go Top 10 on their beep tests alone. His skills are very good by foot also, so it seems like a steal.

There's also guys like Tom Rischbieth who set then-records in the beep test and the 3km time trial, but only got picked up as a rookie.

 

[Noobz0r]

Dearth doesn't mean what you think it does. Quite the opposite.

So it does. Un-dearth?