Preview The 2022 Pre Season Training Official Thread

[Relaxed]

Josh Worrell starting to fill out.
Started showing signs last year in the SANFL early season, hopefully with more development can get a chance to improve on his woeful debut.

Nick Murray in the background looking like he is taking people out as per usual. Scary spoiler for all opponents, will likely cause injury to both opposition players plus himself and our own. See ball, spoil ball.



Bonus Dood, Jimmy and Ned.

 

[Ciao Giacomo]

I would love to see a big step forward by Josh Worrell this year. He has a unique set of skills but there is no obvious spot for him in the best 22.

He could become a fantastic “Third Tall Defender” but that means finding a new role for the Dude.

Josh looks a bit like Sam Shaw in that photo, hopefully he has better luck than Sam.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

I would love to see a big step forward by Josh Worrell this year. He has a unique set of skills but there is no obvious spot for him in the best 22.

He could become a fantastic “Third Tall Defender” but that means finding a new role for the Dude.

Josh looks a bit like Sam Shaw in that photo, hopefully he has better luck than Sam.

I wouldn’t mind seeing him tried more forward if the ball.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I kind of feel like Sam's ceiling could be a peak Paul Chapman (which I say with a begrudging respect because I used to hate how often he burned us in that annoyingly great Cats dynasty).

I don't think he's going be our cream, but could certainly be a very dangerous "best of the rest" type.

Hasn’t got that skill level but he’s very good with his ground balls and clean takes and definitely a competitor

He grew on me and a good guy to have on the list even though I don’t think he will always be guaranteed a game

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Why can't he be an A Grade shutdown defender?

If Adelaide treat him like they did his predecessors (Rutten & Talia) then I am 100% fine with it.

Butts was so good last year he doesn’t really need to do much more to be a great player for us over the years

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I would love it if you are correct. I did not see him live in 2021, but nor have I knocked his talent.

My concerns are purely based around his durability and I think they are valid. I am not saying he has no chance of overcoming them either, just at this stage of the game its a worry.

The fact remains that he has now had 3 consecutive injury ridden seasons, with 2 Shoulder reconstructions.

Joel Selwood is an absolutely terrible example. Sure he had some knee concerns that might have dropped him down one or two spots in the draft, but he came right in and played 21 games in his first year (in a premiership team no less).

Thats the difference. Pedlar had an injury interrupted 2019 and 2020. Then once drafted he had injury issues all preseason. Played some games before having a season ending injury and then on top of that getting a 2nd should reconstruction.

Although player comparisons in these situations are never perfect, I would say a far better comp than Selwood would be Troy Menzel. Both talented, but injury concerns lead them to slip to pick 11.

The only player I’m slightly disappointed we didn’t go for before Pedlar was Tanner Bruhn

No reason why they both can’t be success stories but will take time which is fine

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Straight line runner, very little agility

Wrong

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Don't think so ....Nank much thinner & a bucket hat man ....Pedlar has the moe & wears his hat backwards

I'm going with FR0GGY 's call

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It’s Nank

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Fair enough!

That fluency when kicking long in particular has completely disappeared

I think we need to give it more time , doesn’t look comfortable at the level yet so his composure is off

Think he can be a good kick in time

 

[StonesThrow]

That latest video talking about diversity is cringe. Players sitting there with their arms crossed and legs up while someone is speaking to them.

It's a difficult thing for her to get up and talk about in front of a group, at least show some basic respect/courtesy. I'm sure they get taught this stuff if their parents already haven't.

 

[betterthanu]

I would love to see a big step forward by Josh Worrell this year. He has a unique set of skills but there is no obvious spot for him in the best 22.

He could become a fantastic “Third Tall Defender” but that means finding a new role for the Dude.

Josh looks a bit like Sam Shaw in that photo, hopefully he has better luck than Sam.

There's a Jake Kelly sized hole in our best 22 for him to grab if he's good enough.

 

[Mutineer]

There's a Jake Kelly sized hole in our best 22 for him to grab if he's good enough.

Josh Worrell a shut down defender?
I'm not seeing it personally.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Kelly was only a shut down defender only because that's all he was capable of being

Hopefully moving him on shows we're not going to restrict ourselves with (too many) limited footballers

 

[StonesThrow]

Do we have any stats on Kelly's performance as a shut down defender over the years? I feel like he got better one on one especially in the air, yet he was still capable of getting bags kicked on him?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Do we have any stats on Kelly's performance as a shut down defender over the years? I feel like he got better one on one especially in the air, yet he was still capable of getting bags kicked on him?

Not sure on stats. To me it seemed he started playing on better forwards in his last season or so (Dusty, Petracca, Fritsch). Did very well at times, got exposed at other times.

Earned his keep by taking these tougher roles imho, whereas previously he'd be gifted roles on the worst/youngest opposition forward.

 

[JennyTalia]

There's a Jake Kelly sized hole in our best 22 for him to grab if he's good enough.

My bet is hinge grabs that spot. I like worrell but still not sure where he fits.

 

[Mutineer]

My bet is hinge grabs that spot. I like worrell but still not sure where he fits.

yep, I've said that all along, I think we were aware a year out Kelly was likely going to exercise his free agency when we targeted Hinge the year before.

 

[Wazzy36]

yep, I've said that all along, I think we were aware a year out Kelly was likely going to exercise his free agency when we targeted Hinge the year before.

Do you think Hinge will have long term injury problems due to his shoulder? I'm no medical expert but I feel dislocating it twice then needing surgery on it doesn't bode well.

 

[Mutineer]

Do you think Hinge will have long term injury problems due to his shoulder? I'm no medical expert but I feel dislocating it twice then needing surgery on it doesn't bode well.

There's probably somewhere in the region of 20 - 30 AFL players running around every year with shoulder reco's in the AFL...it's a fairly common injury, most return to their previous output.

 

[Wazzy36]

There's probably somewhere in the region of 20 - 30 AFL players running around every year with shoulder reco's in the AFL...it's a fairly common injury, most return to their previous output.

Well that's good to hear, again I really don't know the difference between more serious and less serious season ending injuries.

 

[Wazzy36]

There's probably somewhere in the region of 20 - 30 AFL players running around every year with shoulder reco's in the AFL...it's a fairly common injury, most return to their previous output.

Just for arguments sake, how do you see crouch going with his injuries and surgeries?

 

[kick it to me_]

Just went and watched match Sim. Only caught one side of the play, and it's often a guessing game for the players that have there numbers inside out on the white team. Really hard to follow the midfield unfortunately, but here's some of my observations.

Rachelle is a one touch player, think he kick 3 goals from my count. He also hit up some other players. Smart with the ball, and makes great decisions. Had a rest on on sideline at one stage. So I think if the can get his tank up he's lock for round one.

The smalls on the blue team. Mchenry, Rachelle, Rowe. Mcadam wasn't out there due to concussion I think. My opinion so far is Rowe makes way for Mcadam when he's fit.

Rehab group, Crouch (I think, looks slimmer), fisher, Murphy (was working really hard)

Hinge kick a nice snap, looked pretty solid. Was on the white team. Think he will break into our best 22 this year.

McPherson looks like he's made way for Brown in the blue team. Brown made a few mistakes early on, but it looked like it was more the rotation on field could hear players asking him, making him accountable.

Hamill had a few run down tackles and a bit of run and carry which was great to see. He was in the blue team.

Gollant get to good positions and can take a great mark but his kicking is horrible. Looked to hand it off and players calling him to take the shot. He was in the blue team

Himmelberg played well, but kicking always little off. Was a period they were playing just Worrell on him and he would just monster him. Himmelberg was blue team

ROB taking his signature incept marks

Jones was hb, few incept spoils. From browns interview thought he might have been playing midfield Jones was blue team

Milera got moved around bit, looked like a bit of midfield and half back. One play I caught there was he's signature working in a phone booth were he kept possession from 3 opposition players. Great to see. He was blue team

Keays looks like he might be going to another level, looked more explosive and evasive. Sloan was very vocal about few of his plays saying well done. Drifted fwd at one point and kicked a goal.

Schoenberg kicked a beauty outside 50. Looked to be playing primarily midfield.

Looks like our two kd, Murray and butts. (Butts is a monster) Frampton and brolase on the white team. Frampton was poor from what I saw.
They played Worrell as kd at one stage, looked under size to me. He did a nice spoil at one stage and it stayed in play, he followed up only to bounce off ROB.

Cook, Berry, Hately on the white team midfield, then later Berry playing fwd on the white team.

The running after

Relay
Your standard good runners like Jones, sholl mchenry, keays.

Surprisingly good runners
Hamill and Hinge.

Group run.
Jones and Sholl looked like the head of the pack
Rowe started well and dropped right away.
Frampton was last looked to be really struggling.





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[Mutineer]

Just for arguments sake, how do you see crouch going with his injuries and surgeries?

Can only go by the reports coming out of the club from the player interviews that he's back in full training, the PROVEN AFL talent's still there if he's fit to go.

 

[kick it to me_]

Can only go by the reports coming out of the club from the player interviews that he's back in full training, the PROVEN AFL talent's still there if he's fit to go.

I think he was in the rehab group today, doing a kicking circuit. Short beautiful left foot kicks. Looked his build just slimmed down.

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[George Kramer]

Just went a watch match Sim. Only caught one side of the play, and it's often a guessing game for the players that have there numbers inside out on the white team. Really hard to follow the midfield unfortunately, but here's some observations.

Rachelle is a one touch player, think he kick 3 goals from my count. He also hit up some other players. Smart with the ball, and makes great decisions. Had a rest on on sideline at one stage. So I think if the can get his tank up he's lock for round one.

The smalls on the blue team. Mchenry, Rachelle, Rowe. Mcadam wasn't out there due to concussion I think. My opinion so far is Rowe makes way for mcadam when he's fit.

Rehab group, Crouch (I think, looks slimmer), fisher, Murphy (was working really hard)

Hinge kick a nice snap, looked pretty solid. Was on the white team. Think he will break into our best 22 this year.

McPherson looks like he's made way for Brown in the blue team. Brown made a few mistakes early on, but it looked like it was more the rotation on field could hear players asking him, making him accountable.

Hamill had a few run down tackles and a bit of run and carry which was great to see. He was in the blue team.

Gollant get to good positions and can take a great mark but his kicking is horrible. Looked to hand it off and players calling him to take the shot. He was in the blue team

Himmelberg played well, but kicking always little off. Was a period they were playing just Worrell on him and he would just monster him. Himmelberg was blue team

ROB taking his signature incept marks

Jones was hb, few incept spoils. From browns interview thought he might have been playing midfield Jones was blue team

Milera got moved around bit, looked like a bit of midfield and half back. One play I caught the was he's signature working in a phone booth were he kept passion from 3 opposition players. Great to see. He was blue team

Keays looks like he might be going to another level, looked more explosive and evasive. Sloan was very vocal about few of his plays saying well done. Drifted fwd at one point and kicked a goal.

Schoenberg kicked a beauty outside 50. Looked to be playing primarily midfield.

Looks like our two kd, Murray and butts. (Butts is a monster) Frampton and brolase on the white team. Frampton was poor from what I saw.
They played Worrell as kd at one stage, looked under size to me. He did a nice spoil at one stage and it stayed in play, he followed up only to bounce off ROB.

Cook, Berry, Hately on the white team midfield, then later Berry playing fwd on the white team.

The running after

Relay
You standard good runners like Jones, sholl mchenry, keays.

Surprisingly good runners
Hamill and Hinge.

Group run.
Jones and Sholl looked like the head of the pack
Rowe started well and dropped right away.
Frampton was last looked to be really struggling.





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Thanks for the write up, did you see Dawson and where he was playing? Also who did Rachelle touch up to score his 3?